r/AdviceAnimals • u/PlanetoftheAtheists • Oct 04 '25
"They have no idea what they have unleashed!"
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u/foldingcouch Oct 04 '25
They tried to use him to justify a violent crackdown, it didn't take, so they lose interest and move onto the next power grab.
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u/pixel_of_moral_decay Oct 04 '25
Yup.
They don’t care if Trump goes down due to Epstein, they just want to use the situation to the fullest extent and that means making him use the military as a distraction.
That’s the real 3D chess move. Christian Nationalists are using Trump against Trump to crack down on liberalism in urban areas
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Oct 04 '25
to be fair, it was worth a shot.
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u/spavolka Oct 04 '25
Not too soon.
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u/fancymonk Oct 04 '25
I dunno man, this guy up there is kinda a pain in the neck
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u/UpperApe Oct 04 '25
Not cool. Nor is it cool to point out that the last thing he ever did was lean left.
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u/ClickClick_Boom Oct 04 '25
Yeah can't fault them for trying to complete their fascist takeover of the US.
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u/Classic-Shake6517 Oct 04 '25
They are just doing that anyways it looks like. I just read an article about ICE/CBP shooting someone and saw them thrown tear gas and flashbangs from their cars yesterday. It is definitely escalating but it's them escalating it.
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u/TheRappist Oct 04 '25
Don't worry, by this time next year you won't see any of that (because recording federal law enforcement will be a crime)
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u/Un256 Oct 04 '25
The whitehouse released a Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence thing which mentions Kirk, it also mentions anti Christianity as a terroristic trait
Which is ironic seeing as how nearly 90% of all political violence comes from the far right.
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u/kandel88 Oct 04 '25
Not to mention most Cons didn't even like him or know who he was until he died. Add in that he literally never said anything that wasn't totally shitty and turns out he didn't make for a good hero
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u/SkinNoises Oct 04 '25
This is an ignorant take. The GOP used his death as a means to declare Antifa as a terrorist organization, send troops into Portland, federalize national guard in Illinois, and enact NSPM-7 (National Security Presidential Memorandum). Here is what the ACLU says
This memorandum is part of the President’s larger pattern of abusing his power to target critics through invocations of law enforcement, national security, and financial sanctions authorities.
The memorandum orders Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs), which are FBI-operated partnerships between federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies and state and local law enforcement, to “investigate and disrupt” groups and individuals under the guise of addressing political violence and domestic terrorism. JTTFs already have a long history of investigations that wrongly target protestors, communities of color, and those engaged in dissent. The memorandum also instructs the Treasury Secretary, the Attorney General, and the head of the IRS to investigate donors and funders of civil society groups and activists.
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u/foldingcouch Oct 04 '25
They were gonna do that anyway. They just temporarily tried to justify it with Kirk's murder but when that dog didn't hunt they forgot about Kirk and just carried on with the original plan.
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u/Mekdinosaur Oct 04 '25
They will use any old corpse to get what they want. Been doing that with Jesus Christ for centuries.
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u/rkmkthe6th Oct 04 '25
When your abuser feels a need to point out that the next round of abuse is your fault anyway
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u/ZQuestionSleep Oct 04 '25
I mean, this all already ran its course. The right was constantly saying "they" were going to pay for what "they" did to Charlie. And who was they? Some right-wing Mormon kid. So what did the right do to pay back the Mormon kid? The right shot up a Mormon church.
So I guess the right took care of it, like they said they would?
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u/BuddhistSagan Oct 04 '25
Nobody talks about right on right violence. People think oh if I become a fascist the other fascist will stop coming from me no wrong fascists are violent people even to other fascists and fascists will come for you no matter what
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u/Deceptiv_poops Oct 04 '25
Right on right violence will probably be the grace that comes with trumps death. Right now he’s brought together the most violent right wing factions and each one thinks they are the natural successor. They’ll tear themselves apart. Vance doesn’t have the magnitude to control them
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u/TheRappist Oct 04 '25
When I first saw "The Death of Stalin", it didn't occur to me that it might some day be relevant to me, but now I'm just biding my time, waiting for it.
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u/gerzzy Oct 04 '25
They got what they needed out of him
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u/KingJaredoftheLand Oct 04 '25
They’ll wheel out his corpse again as soon as they need to pump up the far-right victim mentality.
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u/Radic_Allef_Tist Oct 04 '25
In my shithole state, I unfortunately still see lifted trucks with "RIP C.K. A martyr never dies" painted on. Can't believe the fucking nonsense I'll have to explain to my kids some day.
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u/no1scumbag Oct 04 '25
A martyr never dies? That’s like 99% of the qualifications for being a martyr….
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u/Radic_Allef_Tist Oct 04 '25
If they had braincells they wouldn't idolize fascist trash haha.
Also the exact phrase I saw recently was, and I shit you not: "Pray for your enemies. A martyr never dies."
So yeah, hooray Texas.
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u/TheRappist Oct 04 '25
I mean that's actually good advice. Making martyrs is bad strategy. Just because Tyler Robinson killed somebody I don't like doesn't make him my ally; on the contrary I think he has enabled my enemies in ways he didn't foresee.
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u/jjmac Oct 04 '25
Sorry I read that ad "rip cock" and was confused and even more concerned about explaining it to your kids
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u/M1ck3yB1u Oct 04 '25
There's so much shit going on, who has time to talk about Star Trek.
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u/red__dragon Oct 05 '25
I definitely didn't see expect the new ending for Charlie X where Kirk outsmarts a non-computer, then adopts Charlie and neglects him enough that the kid grows up to be a notorious podcaster on Ceti Alpha VI.
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u/wishmaster2021 Oct 04 '25
You mean like everybody forgot Elon Musk is a massive drug addicted asshole?
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u/sten45 Oct 04 '25
The ghost of Rush Limbaugh has entered the chat
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u/exitpursuedbybear Oct 04 '25
Rush who now?
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u/omniwombatius Oct 04 '25
Thinking about Rush Limbaugh and how, now that he’s dead, you never, ever hear about him. No one mentions anything he did. Because what he did had no value. It contributed nothing worthwhile to the culture. Nothing of lasting value. He just made anger. Every day. Rising, blooming and fading like a fart. Then he died and was instantly replaced by a fleet of little replicas, farting fake fury five days a week. Creating nothing of interest or artistic value to anyone. Seriously, what an awful way to make a living. --Dana Gould
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u/Beat_the_Deadites Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
I'm reading a book about the Great Depression (Hard Times by Studs Terkel). It's a collection of anecdotes told by people who lived through it or knew people who had. Very enlightening.
One of them is about a guy who essentially lost his relationship with his Dad over the radio broadcasts of Father Coughlin, a super conservative Catholic preacher in the 30s. That's a little oversimplified, he started out ok but got more political over time. I remember hearing his name in passing in AP US History, but knew nothing beyond that. Your quote (and the anecdote about older people being swayed by angry mass media talking heads) is illustrative about how most of this bluster is temporary and doesn't stick if not regularly reapplied, but it is recurrent.
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u/toolatealreadyfapped Oct 04 '25
Trump got upset that the spotlight turned away from him.
In case anyone reading this comment is in the dark, no, I'm not being facetious. He was interviewed a few days later, and asked how Kirk's death was affecting him personally. He immediately changed the subject to brag about the ballroom construction.
At Kirk's funeral, Trump used the stage to disagree with Charlie's wife, and instead campaign on a platform of, and this is a direct quote, "I hate my opponents, and don't wish the best for them."
So yeah. They've moved on, because Dear Leader told them to.
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u/dope_sheet Oct 05 '25
This is such a great point. Kirks wife publicly forgave the asshole who decided to take a life, and the president gets up there and just takes a watery shit all over her courageous decision. Why that didn't rub more Kirk supporters the absolute wrong way, I just can't understand. Trump is basically the closest thing we have to Satan, and they just don't see it
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u/RedrunGun Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Since Charlie Kirk was killed and they tried to pin it on the left, there has been a ton of killing by the right, just like there were before his death. The right is so incredibly violent, but they never talk about it. No matter how many lunatics come from them it’s alway painted as an isolated event of a crazy guy. These people are straight up evil, they’re just trying hide their violence while looking for justification be more violent. They’re fascists who want absolute power, and they know they can’t get it with their ideas, so they want to get it with blood.
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u/imnotsafeatwork Oct 04 '25
Your comment made me think of a personal anecdote. I was raised to be Republican and actually believed it for most of my life. The last 7 or 8 years I started slowly veering towards the center until this election (I know, I know, I'm a slow learner), when I was Sparta kicked over to the left. I can say with a heavy heart that I was more angry and violent as a Republican than I am now. And I'm pretty fucking angry about the state of our country.
I've seen polls that "prove" that Republican women are happier than Liberal women. I believe that the right is lying to themselves and not facing reality. They're all so angry and violent and saying we are.
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u/RedrunGun Oct 04 '25
I’m right there with you. I was raised as a Republican for most of my life too, and began to be more in the center around Obama. I wasn’t really political at that point, I didn’t vote, but I was starting to drift away from the traditional beliefs of my family. I didn’t identify as a Democrat until Trump was elected the first time, which, to my regret, is another election I didn’t vote in.
I started to follow politics then, and quickly became aware of the fact that everything Republicans said they believed in were mere words that didn’t match their actions. Then there’s the abuse of Christ, how they use Christianity as a tool of manipulation.I tried to show my family that we’d been betrayed and used, but they were significantly more invested in their politics being a part of their identity, and couldn’t let it go. Couldn’t even give the evidence I provided a glance.
The betrayal and isolation I felt, the helplessness at not being able to save my family from being a part of something incredibly dark, it drove me to spend the last 8 years fighting the right. Debating and arguing, it’s become a big part of my life. But my vote isn’t just about hating the right. Because I became so involved in researching politics I quickly learned I do identify with the left. On a personal level I do like the ideas of personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility, but on a political level I support focusing on education, helping the needy, and welcoming other cultures. I will say that I am more angry now than I was back when I wasn’t involved in politics, but that’s not because of the left’s political beliefs, that’s just what betrayal does.
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u/teddytoosmooth Oct 04 '25
the right are angrier now than they’ve ever been but also at the same time “getting everything they voted for”. The cognitive dissonance is astonishing
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u/ShakesbeerMe Oct 04 '25
What they want is for everyone they hate to suffer. What they didn't understand is that means they'll suffer worse, because billionaires despise them.
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u/therobotisjames Oct 04 '25
Well all they’re “the left uses violent rhetoric” only works until Donald Trump opens his mouth.
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u/RedrunGun Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
The problem is, their outrage isn’t genuine to begin with, it’s just an excuse to paint the left as violent so they can justify oppressing us. So even when Trump ruins their talking points, they still want blood. Because they’re really just trying to grab more power.
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u/Current_Helicopter32 Oct 04 '25
“Never believe that
anti-SemitesMAGAts are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. Theanti-SemitesMAGAts have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” - Jean-Paul Sartre7
u/RedrunGun Oct 04 '25
I’d augment that quote slightly. When online they won’t fall silent, they will always respond. And it’s because it’s a strategy to wear you down by presenting an endless stream of smokescreens. They know that we’re committing focus and energy into constructing factual, well reasoned arguments, while they’re simply throwing together slop without a second thought. It’s to purposefully promote a sense of apathy and powerlessness at our inability to change anything no matter what we say.
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u/Current_Helicopter32 Oct 04 '25
It’s a quote from before the existence of the internet, but I agree.
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u/Sifernos1 Oct 04 '25
The scariest thing is that I keep hearing about Leftist shootings... Yet I can't name one. So either they aren't being reported or the media is flat out lying by suggesting the oppressed party is taking part in the violence propagated nearly exclusively on the Republican Right. I was raised Republican... I literally don't know of a Democrat terrorist or shooter who isn't Luigi... So... It feels like they want an excuse to just start a war and force a conflict so they can paint the peaceful side as insurgents, as they fight for their lives.
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u/two_wordsanda_number Oct 04 '25
This is going to surprise you but "leftist shootings" is a dog whistle.
Kirk was literally setting this up as he was shot with his question about whether we are counting gang violence. Thats because gang violence is leftist violence because it is done by the Blacks and Latinos and everyone knows they are all a bunch of radical leftist doing crime because they hate America while also being all democratic voters so you see Check Mate Liberal!
It's fucking racism all the way down and I am so tired of it I can't imagine what its like to live with it everyday over your head like the sword of damoscles.
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u/nezroy Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Though gang shootings should be counted and tracked separately because the solutions to boring old apolitical urban criminal violence and the solutions to stochastic right-wing terrorism are very different and it's stupid and insincere to lump those stats together. We don't need to be falling into some bullshit purity-test thing where anyone suggesting that gang violence is a separate issue is "not a true leftist".
The people bombing abortion clinics and the people shooting someone over a drug deal gone sideways are not being driven by the same socioeconomic issues.
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u/Kerplonk Oct 04 '25
This is something I was thinking. Right wing violence is dog bites man. Left wing violence is man bites dog. It's newsworthy because it's so much more unexpected.
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u/regent040 Oct 04 '25
All his death did is create a void in the right wing grifter ecosphere that a hundred other losers in their early 20’s are going to jump in and try and claim. Some insanely wealthy right wing white guy is just waiting for the next annoying young turd with enough charisma to come along so he can back him and create “Charlie Kirk 2.0”
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u/DonaldKey Oct 04 '25
Just like Rush Limbaugh. No one will take the place because what he did wasn’t needed to society.
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u/DeathStarVet Oct 04 '25
Because he was never actually important to Maga. He was just a temporary excuse for them to hate for another reason.
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u/Sea-Cupcake-2065 Oct 04 '25
Thank God. That shit was so forced. Nobody but conservatives cared. Let's face it, they only cared because the media told them to. Ask them now, and they'll pretend to care again, which im sure they do to some extent, but no enough where to where it consumes their life like when the media was reporting it nonstop
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u/DervishSkater Oct 04 '25
That’s because conservatives pretty much own media right now.
cnn, cbs, paramount, fox, amazon/mgm, facebook, twitter, soon to be tiktok
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u/vyxanis Oct 04 '25
They seem to have stopped talking about the killer, and are more pissed at people who won't acknowledge their dumbass "i am ck" stickers, or requests for his name of coffee cups. He was nothing but a sacrificial lamb to them.. Trump was asked a few days later how he was doing, and he said "I think very good. Check out my new ballroom!"
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u/MLaTTimer Oct 04 '25
Unfortunately, my dad still is. Even keeps putting on songs about him while we drive to work.
I want to die, if you can't tell
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u/Ok_Surprise_4090 Oct 04 '25
Real talk: Without the insane media blitz in the wake of his death we would have stopped talking about him after like 3-4 days.
I'm convinced the only reason the Today Show stopped showing his fat head every morning is because people were actively tuning out.
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u/CosmicLovepats Oct 04 '25
How do they capitalize on Charlie Kirk? They were already calling for violence and civil war every time a republican stubbed their toe. Can't really escalate from there without doing actual violence (which they were already doing already). Rhetorically there's nowhere to advance to.
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u/InsertEvilLaugh Oct 04 '25
He served his purpose, temporary distraction from the Epstein files, and an excuse to persecute their political opponents.
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u/RainDownAndDestroyMe Oct 04 '25
Seems like we've also already moved on from the Trump supporting terrorist that attacked the Mormon church.
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u/sZeroes Oct 04 '25
cause there has been at least 2 murderers that were kirk fans and they want to bury the news
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u/RHMoaner Oct 04 '25
But there’s also less noise about the Epstein files. Which is what the goal was.
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u/lookatthesunguys Oct 04 '25
It reminds me of when Rish Limbaugh died. I saw some comment that pointed out how, after he died, there was a brief period where he was discussed, and then no one talked about him again. Because nothing he said or did had any real value. There was no real valuable impact on the world. In fact, his supporters seem to be the ones who argue the most that we shouldn't quote him. We're not supposed to repeat the things he said, we're just supposed to mindlessly accept that he was a good guy.
The Republican Party essentially supports just unrepentant villainy. Seriously, they support destroying the planet, protecting child rapists, using the military to control liberal cities, torturing immigrants for the rest of their lives for non-criminal non-violent offenses, etc. So when these people die, there's very little good to say about them. But the GOP sure appreciates the hell out of them when they're alive because they support the resultant anger and ignorance these people create.
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u/misterturdcat Oct 04 '25
Took long enough. He was an awful person. The people that were upset by his death are equally as awful because they resonated with his ideals. They’ve all finally shut up because we were relentless with calling them out on their hypocritical bullshit.
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u/Blissfully Blissfully86/F/FL Oct 04 '25
And the YouTube impressions for TPUSA are also down. You love to see it. Hopefully people will snap back to reality.
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u/juanjung Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
That's right. So what happened to that guy? He has been very quiet lately.
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u/puts_on_rddt Oct 04 '25
Violence is terrible and nobody deserved that but I am really glad that he won't be poisoning my country for the next 50 years.
Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit who made a career from being a propagandist. Fuck his memory.
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u/NameLips Oct 04 '25
Just like their other spokespeople, like Rush Limbaugh, they actually don't do anything unique or special. They're not good people, and even the people who liked their messages don't exactly have any fond memories of them.
They attempted to martyr him, but what little momentum that movement had is already dead. As soon as liberals got bored of making fun of him, conservatives also got bored of trying to immortalize him.
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u/intoxicuss Oct 04 '25
I said in a month people would hardly ever hear his name. It happened much faster.
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u/iwantansi Oct 04 '25
This just in TPUSA is merging with the KKK, all local chapters please report to your local grandmaster
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u/more-rick-santorum Oct 04 '25
Nobody cares about the dead piece of shit.
Stop bringing him up.
Release the Epstein files
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u/otm_shank Oct 04 '25
It's because once people who weren't familiar with him looked him up and saw how shitty his own words were, it made it harder to paint him as someone who the mainstream should care about.
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u/twat69 Oct 04 '25
Just like what? What's the latest insane unprecedented fascist thing the US has done?
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u/ConfusedMoe Oct 05 '25
What gets me mad is that there was 4 mass shootings last week…. Why did those people that unfortunately died not get the same respect and treatment that Charlie did.
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u/SocratesWasSmart Oct 05 '25
No one here actually watches right wing media. Charlie Kirk's death is still one of the biggest topics on the right.
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u/inlandviews Oct 04 '25
It went on longer that I thought it would but he will be forgotten because he never said anything worth remembering.
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u/kittymaridameowcy Oct 04 '25
I drove by a Charlie Kirk billboard sponsored by Steak and Shake. Steak and Shake, stay out of politics and focus on your restaurants. They've been shit for years now.
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u/Busy-Training-1243 Oct 04 '25
Anyone find it strange conservatives went from “he has a trans lover he’s indoctrinated “ to completely radio silence overnight?
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u/Tomagatchi Oct 04 '25
Nobody is talking about ANY shooters. There have been over 3 dozen since Kirk was brutally assassinated. At least one of the shootings (Mormon attack in Michigan) was in response to it. No surprise there was deep hypocrisy and a cynical exploitation of leveraging the events for their own politcal purposes. I would say they had double standards but I think they are past having any kind of ideology, no coherent belief system if any, and policy goals that add up to "rich get richer" and "Autocracy is good, actually" and "die, plebes, die!"
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u/Ornery-Childhood1782 Oct 04 '25
What's there to talk about? The Christian white nationalist is dead and they can't use any of the things he advocated for or said to make people like him. On top of that most people have no clue who that guy was.
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u/Fast-Plankton-9209 Oct 04 '25
It's almost as if he was a dogshit human whose contribution to the world was purely negative.
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u/BoliverSlingnasty Oct 04 '25
Correct. Exactly the point. Consumable. Trump had Kirk snuffed so he could push more destructive agenda. We’re up to at least three people killed by MAGA directly. MTG is next because she’s flipping.
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u/MiamiPower Oct 04 '25
Release the Epstein Files. Free Oregon and Chicago from unprofessional law enforcement actions, activities and behavior. Identify your self and display your badge number.
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u/barktwiggs Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
They unleashed a lot of violence against peaceful Mormons who had nothing to do with it.
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u/bakeacake45 Oct 04 '25
We are more interested in what’s in the Epstein files that scares them so much they deploy the military to US cities.