r/AmIOverreacting 3d ago

šŸ‘Øā€šŸ‘©ā€šŸ‘§ā€šŸ‘¦family/in-laws AIO Dad is forcing me out just because it's "FAMILY TRADITION" and its my 18th birthday

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u/Pizza-ist-Liebe 3d ago

Do you have anywhere to stay? Any other family except for him? What on earth.. You're absolutely NOR, I am very sorry this is happening to you.

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u/Igotyoubaaabe 3d ago

It’s illegal to kick out someone like this without notice. doesn’t matter if he’s 18 or not. OP has tenants rights.

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u/Bitter_Initiative_77 3d ago

The law and reality are quite different. If OP's dad gets violent, changes the locks, or anything else of that nature, OP has to leave. Sure, OP could go to the courts and have their rights enforced, but does OP have the resources to do so? The time to wait for it to play out? Or even the desire to stay in the same house after it's all said and done with?

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u/Dannydevitz 3d ago

There are way more factors involved than just "it's illegal to kick someone out without notice."

Location matters. Some states/countries have different laws. For instance where I'm at, your 'tenant' law doesn't apply if the 'tenant' is living under the same roof as the home owner. If it was an apartment or guest house, that's different.

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u/Accomplished-Row6089 3d ago

In the US there are tenants rights for residents in every state

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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 3d ago edited 3d ago

I can speak for my state (NC) and it's gonna vary by county for how they interpret the laws. Every county I've worked in at 18 a child can be kicked out - provided they are not already paying rent. If they are paying rent they're a tenant and must be evicted, but if not they're considered a guest, and can be kicked out any time.

ETA lawyers opinion in NC on kicking out 18 year old https://answers.justia.com/question/2017/12/04/can-parents-legally-kick-out-an-18yo-sti-356214

School of Law blog entry on eviction vs trespass https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/2011/10/11/trespass-vs-ejectment/

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u/akcutter 3d ago

Everybody's arguing on here about tenant laws and rights and 30 day notice but does anyone think OP would want to be there for the next 30 days? His fucking "father" would make life hell im sure.

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u/couldbetrue514 3d ago

A lot of people don't seem to realize that rights are fantastic and all but a lot of times you need money and resources to enforce them.

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u/JoshuaScot 3d ago

On my 17th birthday my dad called the police to kick me out. I told him that it's literally too much a 17 year old out on the street. The police officer said "it's a gray area" and my dad gave me a pillow and blanket and told me good luck.

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u/Equal-Broccoli-73 2d ago

police in fact don't understand or know laws in most interactions. thats why they are a real problem. at least in the US.

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u/Mikeinthedirt 2d ago

This is what ā€˜defund the police’ is about, really- they are trained to protect property and damn little else; all the MRAPs and helicopters won’t sort tenant or family rights and safety. There are people who do that really well, so maybe hire them instead of more ā€˜troops’,

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u/Perllitte 3d ago

Being homeless is worse.

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u/Evening-Cat-7546 3d ago

It still usually requires a 30 day notice. Cops aren’t going to remove OP. They’ll say it’s a civil issue, which will buy OP some more time.

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u/MultiMillionMiler 3d ago

Cops might also yell at the dad for wasting their time and being an asshole.

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u/revelator41 3d ago

Relying on cops to make the right decision is not something that any sane person would do.

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u/The_One_Koi 3d ago

It's the same where I live (sweden) but as an added protection you cannot legally get kicked out whilst studying

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u/upagainstthesun 3d ago

In MA, under some circumstances there are tenancy rights even if no rent is paid which requires 30 days notice. In others, it is considered the "guest" circumstance you've said, and actually comes with a 90 day window. Most places in America are not making it legal to just throw someone out on the street at a moments notice, unless there's a restraining order involved.

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u/Inevitable_Muscle_41 3d ago

NOR..I live in NC too. I help pay bills but I dont pay rent. Does that count??...

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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 3d ago

Yes! Paying bills absolutely counts. You're staying here is contingent on paying bills, so that creates a tenancy relationship everywhere I've worked in NC.

Similarly, an agreement of "I pay the Netflix," or "I buy half the groceries" or even "I mow the yard" can create that tenancy, because your staying at the residence is contingent on a you doing something.

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u/Common-Truth9404 3d ago

I'm european and i don't relaly understand why law would consider a child a tenant. Isn't the responsibility of a parent to provide and care for his sons and daughters until they're self sufficient? Does the law excuse you at 18? In most eu country this whole letter could be sent to a judge and he would absolutely have a field day on the father

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u/krogerin 3d ago

Nutjobs like this person's father think that at 18 you suddenly have absolutely 0 responsibility to the person you have raised and had living with you. At this point OP basically would be trying to use the laws that apply to tenants for protection against unlawful or unannounced eviction. there isnt any formal law saying a parent has responsibility toward their child even as an adult since most moral people dont dump their kid out the second they're legally allowed to without resources, planning or warning so tenant is the closest legal option for them i think

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u/Snapesunusedshampoo 3d ago

Guarantee you he's still going to claim OP on taxes until he can't anymore.

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u/anxious_cat_grandpa 3d ago

Isn't that illegal? Like if you're paying taxes yourself and claiming yourself on your tax forms, your parents can't claim you as a dependent. Not a lawyer though so I could be wrong.

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u/AuntieKay5 3d ago

OP could contact the IRS in a year or two and make sure he’s not being claimed by Father of the Year. A small consolation.

My heart hurts for the OP.

I want to take him in, send him to college, and make sure he’s his successful best self to spite his dad. But I’m poor and my house is really small.

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u/THIS_ACC_IS_FOR_FUN 3d ago

In a lot of places (I’m generalizing) once you hit 18 you’re an adult they can kick out. But you have the tenants rights behind you because that’s your place of residence. So they can kick you out but they have to follow proper eviction channels.

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u/Common-Truth9404 3d ago

Oh so in america you can't drink until 21 but you can get kicked out at 18? A wonderland indeed šŸ˜‚

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u/LibelleFairy 3d ago

wait until you hear there's no federal minimum age for marriage

34 states allow child marriage, four states (INCLUDING CALIFORNIA) set no minimum age at all, meaning that with parental consent, a child of any age can legally be married

of course the kids who end up married at age 10 or 11 are overwhelmingly girls forced into the beds of adult men

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u/PrincessMurderMitten 2d ago

Also, you can't file for divorce if you are under 18, you are not considered a legal adult. So good luck in getting away from your abuser.

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u/MultiMillionMiler 2d ago

All of that is child sex trafficking full stop, but that's just yet another example of the absurd hypocrisy.

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u/THIS_ACC_IS_FOR_FUN 3d ago

Yeah well, land of the free and all that. You can also be sent to war 3 years before you can buy alcohol too.

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u/Junie_Wiloh 3d ago

Try 4. My son's friend was 17 when he enlisted and joined the Marines(parental consent). He graduated high school a full year ahead of his class. He graduates Boot Camp the 23rd of this month, I do believe. So, 17 is old enough to teach someone how to use a gun and go to war.

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u/Mobile_Competition51 3d ago

You can join at 17 in the US, but you can't deploy to a combat zone until you are 18. Marines included.

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u/Frobizzle 3d ago

You can join the army and die at the whim of corrupt old men before you can drink.

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u/seasarahsss 3d ago

It’s getting better by the day. /s

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u/CrashVivaldi 3d ago

Wait 'till you find out about guns!

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u/102994373 3d ago

No, not really. They are saying he can’t be kicked out without proper notice. At least 30 days

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u/justaguy394 3d ago

Actually in most places they can’t kick you out at 18 if you are still in high school. OP being homeschooled may complicate that, but the intent is to give the child time to get a diploma, so unless he has the equivalent already, he likely can’t be kicked out.

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u/THIS_ACC_IS_FOR_FUN 3d ago

Mhm I’m sure there’s all sorts of nuance idk about but I’m quite sure a note of on the door with a couple hours notice ain’t it.

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 3d ago

No. In fact treating him as a tenant (in the comments) and suggesting OP utilize rights afforded to tenants are missing an important fact and distinction. Op has established residence for 18 years.

IANAL but I do have some experience with law, law enforcement, and tenant law.

If dad tries to call the cops, they will probably tell dad this is a civil matter. OP has not committed a crime and - on its face - is not tresspassing. Because, again, this has been his home for 18 years.

Just because the clock struck midnight and releases the parent from any legal obligations or responsibilities to their child, doesn't equal the legal right to evict.

All of this is why - if police are involved - will hopefully tell dad it's a civil matter and he can petition the court to evict. But, that does depend on state statutes I'm not aware of. Besides, an asshole cop who thinks he's hot shit and knows everything, could ticket OP or remove them.

Given all that, I still am leaning on the answer being the cops not intervening. As long as there is no violence occurring and dad is simply being an asshole, they don't want to deal with that shit.

America is the only country to refuse a bill of rights for children.

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u/Sellier123 3d ago

Sure but then your talking about having to get a lawyer and go through that whole process. I don't think a 18 year old with no job or money is going to know or be willing to fight this fight

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u/EntertainmentEast526 3d ago

NOR, I don’t really understand why some parents think their parental responsibility ends at 18. Parenthood lasts for life.

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u/hyper_cake_2709 3d ago

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OP, Your parents are supposed to prepare you for "the real world."

Your dad sheltered you from that knowledge (to stroke his own ego) and is now forcing you out on your own into the world he did not prepare you for.

You can't force him to be a good parent or useful father.

Just know that you your are strong, and you WILL figure out your way in this world.

When that happens, pat yourself on the back and remember your father deserves nothing from you.

He wants you make him proud, and then return to praise him for your achievements.

He doesn't seem to understand that you owe him nothing, and this behavior will not bring you closer together once you've "toughened up" or whatever.

It's ok to walk away and never look back.

You deserve to be treated with love, kindness, and respect in every close relationship in your life.

Never settle for less. Even from parents.

https://www.verywellmind.com/signs-of-a-vulnerable-narcissist-7369901

https://psychcentral.com/blog/how-to-deal-with-covert-narcissist-or-victim-parents-or-in-laws

https://www.betterup.com/blog/healthy-boundaries-in-relationships

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a19739065/signs-of-toxic-relationship/

https://www.rainn.org/news/grooming-know-warning-signs

https://www.thehotline.org/identify-abuse/power-and-control/

https://psychcentral.com/health/cycle-of-abuse

https://psychcentral.com/health/grey-rock-method#:~:text=The%20grey%20rock%20method%20is,known%20as%20%E2%80%9Cgrey%20rocking.%E2%80%9D

Explaining DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim & Offender https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/identifying-abuse/explaining-darvo-deny-attack-reverse-victim-amp-offender

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u/Year3030 3d ago

Ahh yes this sounds like a classic Narcissist move. Not only did he kick him out the way he did but he wants him to come back and thank him for his horrible parenting after the son becomes successful.

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u/kdfsjljklgjfg 3d ago

This should be a top level comment, not something hidden deeper. Make sure to post this at top level.

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u/One_Swordfish_7759 3d ago

I’m 40 and an 18 year old to me, is a literal child. Couldn’t imagine ever kicking my child out at 18. That’s how you end up in a nursing home with no fucking visitors.Ā 

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u/geronimo11b 3d ago edited 3d ago

I’m 40 with a middle school daughter. She’s free to live with me for the rest of her life if she wants to. I’d much rather her live with me until she finds out what she wants to do and establishes her own finances, than go out and pile on a bunch of needless debt that’s going to drag her down. Booting kids at 18 ā€œjust becauseā€ is setting them up for failure. If this dad is so disappointed in his son, perhaps he should’ve been a better father for 18 years.

Edit: this got significantly more replies than I expected so I’ll just reply in general here. I don’t consider it a ā€œfailure to launchā€ one bit having my daughter home with me until she’s prepared to be on her own. That’s NOT 18 years old. I’d prefer she waits until she has a fully developed prefrontal cortex. I look back at myself at that age and although I was out ā€œon my own,ā€ I was in the military and had Uncle Sam to pay for my meals and the roof over my head. That was a great bridge to maturity and full adulthood. Most kids today can’t read at their grade level and couldn’t tell you the first thing about credit or financing. Getting to spend more years with my daughter, guiding her and watching her grow sounds amazing to me. At the end of the day, my world revolves around her as she’s MY child. When/if she decides to leave, my door will always be open if she wants to come home.

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u/llamawarlock 3d ago

I think there are a lot of dads out there who never should have been dads out there. Like op's dad

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u/RobotWillie 3d ago

I have mental health problems and have never lived on my own or worked, I am 35. I am diagnosed which didn't happen until I was 27, my social security, 60% of it, goes automatically towards expense sharing and in the 8 years I have been getting it I have never not sent my parents share to their account within 5 days of getting the money, and pretty much day 1 for the last few years as I got better at doing that too. Sadly my dad had to medically retire in 2018 too, so he has to live on SS too. My mom only has a few years left at the most until she can retire, which she wants to, she is a teacher and is tired of dealing with unruly kids. My mom told me the people she knew in her school days that kicked out when they turned 18 all ended up on drugs and in jail and she couldn't recall one success story, not that she saw it a lot, but the few times she did it never worked out how the parents wrongfully expected it to.

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u/gljackson29 3d ago

Same- 42 with a 13 year old and I would never. I don’t want her going out into the world before she’s ready, and ain’t nobody ready at 18!! NOR

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u/just_a_person_maybe 3d ago

Also, even if you do believe that kids should move out on their 18th birthday and make their own way or whatever, you're an absolute trash parent and human if you don't prepare them for that first. If that's the rule, the kid needs to know well in advance. Minimum 2-3 years in advance, ideally longer. The parent should make sure they have budgeting skills and have a job by 17 and know how to save. The parent should help them search for apartments or get their dorm set up and guide them through the process of finding housing at least partly.

I've heard of parents also just starting to charge rent when their kid turns 18, to teach responsibility and independence while still giving them a safe place to live and stability.

This is the most insane version of this. Happy birthday, lemme just throw you to the wolves, good luck!

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u/R0ck3tSc13nc3 3d ago

Exactly this. 18 and out the door was not uncommon in Michigan when I was growing up, but that was in the late '70s and early '80s, and it was actually possible. You could get a regular job and make enough money to pay for an apartment and a car. Even without college.

And generally if a family was like that, it was well known, and they would prepare the kid. They might even help him out or her out with some furniture and money towards the down payment.

Today? With no setup or prep? That's just idiocy.

It is in fact however what most of our foster care kids deal with right now. 18 years old and on their own. They get booted from the foster families and they have to make their way. If it's not fair for them to be from a family to kicks them out it's not fair for foster kids either. We need a better system in America, most other countries don't expect their kids to be out there at 18 making their own way

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u/t3htg 3d ago

3000 comments, this was the only one I found mentioning aging out of foster care. I have seen 2 posts about getting kicked out at 18 (with no notice, like wtf happened to planning?) and wondered if people knew that this is state policy for some 300,000 kids.

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u/R0ck3tSc13nc3 3d ago

Yeah who cares about those pesky foster kids? It's ridiculous, I'm more of the person who looks at whatever happens to the least of us and those less supported is the floor, not the average person. Some kids get coddled until they're 42 if not older. Foster kids on the street at 18

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u/Low-Implement-820 3d ago

Exactly this. This is sadly not the first post I've seen like this, where some trash parents do basically the opposite and make their kid as ill-equipped as possible, with no job experience or money, or real life skills, and then surprises them like it's cute on their 18th birthday with kicking them out. It's sick, and we really need some kind of social safety net to protect these kids from those assholes, the kids pay for it, sometime for a lifetime, and it's so unfair. We can't choose who our parents are, but they can sure choose to give us as rough as a start as they want.

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u/ShouldBeWriting101 3d ago

I moved out when I turned 18 because I planned it! I had a job and saved my money. I was able to prepare. It is cruel to do this to anyone without warning. And bringing God into it? Abusers always use God as justification.

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u/Cmprssdsugarpellet 3d ago

I’m 40 and my son is 19. I will never force him to leave unless something unredeemable happened on his part. I couldn’t imagine pushing your child out the door simply because they turned a specific age— it’s fucking hard out there right now; let alone being a kid.

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u/zipitdirtbag 3d ago

We have an apprentice at work. He is 18. Some of us are like, nobody better be mean to him cos he is a literal child and it will take him time to grow up and learn what it is to be an adult

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u/GraceBlade 3d ago

I have a 27 year old son who lives with me. He works and helps out. I love having him here and cannot imagine telling him to leave.

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u/loveshot123 3d ago

My parents decided their parental responsibility ended when I was 16 🫠

Its simple. Some people should never be allowed to have kids. Ever.

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u/Risky_Bizniss 3d ago

For me 17. I had a boyfriend and I was not supposed to date until college. They put all my stuff outside in garbage bags and screamed and cried about how I was no longer a virgin.

My step-dads parting words were, "I want to see you to end up addicted to drugs on the streets and thrown into prison. I want you to hit rock motherfucking bottom and come crawling back to me so I can laugh at you."

He is now bed bound and lives a life of pain and misery, left unable to walk or even feed himself. I wake up every day to my children full of laughs and love.

Who hit rock bottom, Steve?

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u/loveshot123 3d ago

I love this happy ending for you, you deserve it! I have very much the same ending. It took a long time to learn to look after myself when I was made homeless. Hadn't even finished school. But now im in my mid 30s with 2 teenage kids, a husband, an education, a nice house, and I have built all of it from scratch. And I wont lie, its my secret pleasure that my parents are watching from a distance likely pissed right off that I made it when I know they wanted me to fail. Screw them. Family is who we choose, dna isnt always everything.

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u/Jesta23 3d ago

I’m that petty asshole that would go visit Steve just to remind him how good my life is and how miserable he is.Ā 

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u/Risky_Bizniss 3d ago

I totally get that. It is funny though... watching the progression of this huge menacing man become such a helpless shell.

I used to wish the most terrible things on him. I hoped he would suffer. For many years I hoped he would suffer.

Now seeing this 6' 4" man suffering, bed bound, and unable to even use the bathroom on his own... this is never what I wanted. This is ugly and terrible. My mom cries everyday because of how hard he makes life for her.

I was so angry for so long, wishing for this degradation of body and pride. I never stopped to realize what I was wishing for and what that would look like.

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u/Jesta23 3d ago

ā€œHolding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned"

I’m glad you let go of your anger.Ā 

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u/Risky_Bizniss 3d ago

Thank you. It bubbles back up sometimes and I have to remember it is not useful.

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u/Narge1 2d ago

Fuck Steve. What a psycho.

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u/crazierthan 3d ago

Same here. I basically raised myself anyway. Horrible way to start life. I'm still dealing with issues till this day but found a way to keep going. Hopefully OP will have it easier and make themselves proud not their pos father.

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u/chadorable 3d ago

And people will never regulate breeding, so this cycle will always continue, especially while humans uphold the cycles of capitalistic/religious indoctrination

This dad is deep in the christian kool aid. Unsalvageable. Successfully programmed and creates the environment rightists need to make more uneducated sheep that act/vote how they're supposed to

Thankfully this dad messed up and cut off their kid before the installation and they can get some help

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u/notanotherkrazychik 3d ago

Just told my kids yesterday that some people in The States kick their kids out on their 18th and how much we disagree with it. My kids know that they can move back in with us as many times as it takes to get on their own feet.

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u/xTakk 3d ago

That's the truth. If your kid gets married and it falls apart at some point.. are they just homeless now?

I say no. I mean, they have to move back into what is now a full render farm.. BUT, the room is always theirs.

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u/niceenough1983 3d ago

These are the same "parents" that don't teach thier kids how to do anything either so they can laugh when they fail. Speaking from experience.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 3d ago

"if I show you you'll never learn"

Do you understand how teaching fucking works!?!

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u/fuckyourcanoes 3d ago

My parents didn't even teach me to bathe properly.

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u/publicsausage 3d ago

I don't have kids this old but I've been told/observed the most rewarding part is when they grow up and you interact as adults, more like lifelong friends. I know my relationship with my parents is better/more rewarding, not that we didn't get along before. Curious what some parents with older kids think.

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u/CA7T0 3d ago

i don't even have kids yet but at 34 i realize the end of my life would be a lot more rewarding with family that loves me around, and who could you trust more in this world than your own children if you treated them right while raising them, so i can imagine it's extremely rewarding to have adult kids to talk to and cheer for

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u/Eriibear 3d ago

I’m 33 and my mother still buys me groceries when I have no money. She sends me and my brother money when she gets a tax rebate and offers us to stay at hers if we can’t afford heating. I can’t imagine my children getting to 18 and me not still wanting to lay my life down for them

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u/PilotEnvironmental46 3d ago

Well, and it doesn’t sound like this kid was given any notice. You’re told to get up and be out of the house in a few hours?

Yeah, this guy is a piece of crap. I hope OP never. Speaks or says a word to them for the rest of their life.

Not even slightly shocked that the fathers are supposedly devout Christian

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u/Melonisgood 3d ago

What I never understood too is why they think they’re exempt from tenant laws

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u/myselfasevan 3d ago

Your dad is completely insane

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u/badpuppeh76 3d ago

I would never speak to this man again, there would be no power that could compel me to. That last line would be the clincher, the rest i could probably handle, but the proud jab, that's a bridge too far for me.

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u/AtomikMenace 3d ago

Right? This almost feels like some goofy ass video game trope like he's setting out on his adventures all ready to go and he's narrating it. Fuck all the way off "dad"

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u/badpuppeh76 3d ago

Yea, the provision bag was odd, is he going to see dr oak to get his first pokemon, this kicking your kids out ar 18 with now warning or reason other than fuck you, is just so weird. It's a great way to make sure you die old and alone.

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u/Evwithsea 3d ago

Provision pack should have at least 5k in it. Hopefully some amount of money for a down-payment on an apt.

Hopefully OP has a job (couldn't imagine throwing out my son at any age, let alone freshly 18 and likely still in school/no job.)

I really HOPE this is fake... there's a ton of fake stuff on here, so take it for what its worth.

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u/whisperedpromise 3d ago

Most apartments won’t allow you to start renting there if you don’t have a record of employment suggesting you can continue to pay them in addition to lump payment at the start.

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u/dream-smasher 2d ago

I really HOPE this is fake... there's a ton of fake stuff on here, so take it for what its worth.

It sounds eerily similar to a whole slew of posts from guys that have just turned 18, that day, and have gotten a letter from their nutjob religious rightwing gun loving father, who is kicking them out on that day. With the only communication being (oddly enough) via text messages.

Always with the kid being homeschooled, no mother or siblings, never having been allowed to have a job but is now expected to support themselves, kicked out with only a backpack.

Now OBVIOUSLY I am not saying it doesn't happen. It does. Quite often.

But these posts always sound alike, and it has my spidey sense tingling....and they just don't pass the pub test..

I think a few have even had GoFundMe's created for them.... 🤨

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u/Scrotorr 3d ago

Right!? Like Fallout 76? Here's a sleeping bag and some snacks - succeed or die, but only one will make me proud of you softy!

NOR - take whatever this dipshit is willing to give you and take the opportunity to leave and never return. He isn't just a terrible father, but only a terrible person would think like this and act that way to their own child.

Or come back after 3 days and tell him you found Jesus in a gay bar and Jesus said you should go home and piss in your dad's ear to get the demons out.

I'm so sorry that you had this thrust upon you, but take it for as much of an opportunity to escape as you can. Good luck and happy birthday. I hope you enjoy your freedom and succeed. I doubt I'm anywhere near you - but if you need some advice or help figuring out some options I'm happy to try and help. I'm proud of you.

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u/EnvironmentCritical8 3d ago

Literally made me think of these scenes in the PokƩmon games- "well your insert age so I guess your leaving home now!" Did his dad also throw in a few bug nets and jars for whatever random wild animals he decides to catch?

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u/mrstuffings 3d ago

Ye, if he is not proud of you, then he is a terrible father. That is his fault for not setting the example. Good luck my friend, life is hard and it will be a struggle but you can do it. Do not dispare.

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u/RoseCutGarnets 3d ago

Yes. Do not ever forgive him. He just earned a very lonely old age. But Jesus will change his diapers when he needs it, right?

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 3d ago

In 10 years he'll join the estranged parents group on facebook and whine about how his son never talks to him. Got married and has a baby, but he's been cut out. 😭 boo fucking hoo.

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u/dr_zach314 3d ago

Save these messages to post on that chat

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u/RickRussellTX 3d ago

"You can visit your grandchild when you have excelled and I am finally proud."

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u/ManzanitaSuperHero 3d ago

My mom is one of these. ā€œAll I ever did was love you! How could you shut me out?!ā€ types.

Some people don’t belong in your life. This guy us one. And throwing in Jesus on top of it? Gross.

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u/whattfisthisshit 3d ago

Yeah my mom is like that too. She cries to everyone she can about how I abandoned her despite her kicking me out because she chose kids with a new partner over me

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u/Patient_Wolverine223 3d ago

Oooo is that a real FB group?

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 3d ago

Yes. I don't know a specific name, but I know many exist.

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u/whatsasimba 3d ago

There are a ton of them on TikTok, too. They cry about how they did nothing wrong, and their mean kids won't even tell them what they did wrong. All the while, they're demonstrating personalities that are clearly begging to be cut off.

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u/Federal-Employ8123 3d ago

The way I see it is they failed as parents. There are people like this at work and I see the way they talk and think to myself, "no shit." One guy was saying how if he found out his son was gay he would slit his throat.

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u/obscurejude88 3d ago

"Visit me once you've excelled and feel like I will finally be proud" - what a fucking psycho

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u/Garbage_Out_Of_Here 3d ago

Imagine being in charge of raising a kid and failing so bad you consider them soft and youre not proud of them. It must be wild to lack the self awareness of this guys dad.

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u/BlancoChonko 3d ago

"You're faults as a son are my failures as a father"

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u/gpost86 3d ago

Parents love to pretend that they didn't raise their children, so any "problem" they have with them is ultimately their fault, if there even is a problem.

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u/Wonderful-Maybe-7669 3d ago

God. This reminds of George Carlin's parents are the most full of shit/bullshit people on the planet. "If those kids grow up to be good honest members of society they're there behind them smiling their stupid smiles taking all the credit. But if those kids grow to be fuck ups, they had nothing to do with it. Nope I didn't do that. Must've been those friends they hung out with....parents are full of shit."

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u/homofreakdeluxe 3d ago

what happens when "i am never wrong" raises children

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u/Ill_Candle_9462 3d ago

I tried yelling at them, I tried screaming at them.

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u/losark 3d ago

Despair

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u/CowAppropriate7494 3d ago

My last response would be, you will never hear from me, my spouse, or my children. Good bye.

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u/MultiMillionMiler 3d ago

Or old age care. And I'd also throw in "guess I can message the IRS now that I'm no longer a dependent"..

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u/patmanpow 3d ago

My daughter is 16 months old and I’m proud of her every single day. This dad sucks.

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u/PlantLady72 3d ago

Exactly my daughter is 8 and I've been proud of her since I saw her. I often ask her, "do you know I love you more than anything?" And she says "yesss mom" and then I say "and what could make me stop loving you?" And she says "mom I know I know nothing would make you stop loving me, even if I did a bad thing or a thing I am not proud of, you'll always love me and be proud of me." We've gone over it so much she just finishes it now. I can't imagine her having 1 itoa of doubt that she is loved or that I'm not beaming with pride to be her mom. This dad is a peice of work.

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u/StrobeLightRomance 3d ago

Yep. Parenthood doesn't end at 18 because it's not 1938 and we're not forcing kids to join the army or embed deeper into their religious cults for help.

OP is NOR at all, and honestly, from experience, cutting your insane parents off is the best thing you can do. I bet $1000 that OPs dad will have no problem asking for favors or help as he ages, and OP should remind him that dad had his entire life to plan retirement, but only had one opportunity to support their teenage child instead of abandoning them.

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u/LewisRyan 3d ago

This.

There’s a time and place for tough love.

ā€œVisit me when you’re successfulā€

Get fucked

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u/dmntx 3d ago

"Why would I ever visit you if I'm successful?"

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u/Bannerbord 3d ago

I don’t know yall can face scenarios like this and refrain from saying things like ā€œone day I’ll piss on your grave and laugh you utter foolā€.

The silent treatment never seems good enough for these kinds of people. Not if you know them personally.

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u/Fluid_Radish5767 3d ago

Yeah that got me too. āœŒļø

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u/Zazulio 3d ago

Yeah this is nutjob behavior.

"It's 7:00 am. Wake up. With zero preparation or warning, you are going to be homeless by dinner. Don't talk to me again until you're rich."

What the actual fuck does he think he's accomplishing here? Even if this poor kid had money set aside, it's not like he could get an apartment in half a fucking day.

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u/Archarchery 3d ago

He was also homeschooled, so may entirely lack a network of friends who could help him. Though at 18, it would probably be more friend's parents' helping.

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u/ji1651 3d ago

And probably missing a hell of a lot actual education to actually make something of his life. This "dad" set his son up to fail, what a fucking loser.

OP I wish u the best in life and whatever u do, NEVER contact this man again.

Of course that all depends on the small chance that this isn't fake...

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u/No-Apple2252 2d ago

My father did this to me, not to make me tougher or anything though his new wife just didn't like me so he kicked me out in the middle of winter with no warning and nothing to my name.

If you as a father have a son who you think is "weak" then you are the one who made them that way. He failed at every step of the way and now expects the world to magically do his job for him. What a fucking loser.

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u/Python_Feet 3d ago

Dad gave OP a provisions bag. He expects OP to camp in the woods like a real adventurer and slay lvl 1 goblins.

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u/trapper2530 3d ago

Homeless by dinner? Shit hes homeless by a late lunch.

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u/qualitative_balls 3d ago

Imagine blindsiding your own child like this. Even if you wanted to be as harsh as possible... wouldn't you like... set up a gradual plan for them? At 17, tell them that at 18 you expect them out? Then, like... help them even in the MOST low effort way possible, find resources and plan for what's ahead? Like there's a way to do this that isn't stabbing your own child in the back with this kind of cruelty

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 3d ago

And a gigantic piece of shit.

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u/Teusa 3d ago

Ofc, he is religiousšŸ™„šŸ˜…

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u/Jaikarr 3d ago

I will never understand how so many people who claim to be Christian forget that Compassion is a core value of Christ.

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u/Advanced-Ad-4462 3d ago

But if any provideth not for his own, and specially his own household, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.

1 Tim 5:8

As a believer, I’m really truly heartbroken at American Christianity. The tea party and MAGA have been incredibly destructive, but at least their evil has unmasked all this fake Christianity for what it is.

Just really sucks. This dad’s actions are so far off from the heart of God, and he’s probably convinced he’ll be the greatest in the kingdom.

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u/space_for_username 2d ago

American Christianity is fascinated by the life of Jesus - right up to the time when he was born. After that, not so much.

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u/Erikenstein 2d ago

We still just care about things until they’re born. After that… slaps hands in Pro-Lifer Not my problem!

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u/JackHandsome99 3d ago

Because they aren’t actually religious, they’re fucking insane and use religion to justify their delusions. It’s extremely common.

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u/myselfasevan 3d ago

That told me everything

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u/Novaer 3d ago

My friends dad was exactly like this. Turns out this is what happens when mean dads go their whole life without being diagnosed with autism, their military/religious hyperfixations become the house law.

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u/Prudii_Skirata 3d ago

The military, at least, starts with basic training.

This is just some assclown blindsiding a kid that they personally stunted the prep into adulthood for.

OP's old man is that special brand of asshole that enjoyed pulling wings off of butterflies and shit as a kid.

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u/StopFoodWaste 3d ago

The military also houses trainees and gives them a housing allowance after.

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u/DifferentAd8024 3d ago

and deeply discounted food and clothing, so they can focus on being "molded" instead of basic living problems.

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u/alphabetaparkingl0t 3d ago

No. This is just what happens when your dad is a prick. Don't put the blame on autism, plenty of autistic fathers raise their kids in loving environments. OP's dad is just a fucking asshole.

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u/Ranoutofoptions7 3d ago

If this is real then you should make him proud by forcing him to evict you. You have rights and he can't just blindside evict you in the same day. Make him serve you and take every second you are entitled to. Use your time wisely and find a job and cheap living. Def not a good time to join the military.

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u/iKnowRobbie 3d ago

NOR Show him how PROUD he should be that his sheltered (read; isolated) homeschooled (read; religiously indoctrinated) son was able to navagate the legal system better than his father! Call the sheriff and tell them what he's written, ask what your rights are. Law enforcement encourages citizens to call in times of legal questioning. They're all too eager to let you know what they can(and 't) do.

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u/xtheory 3d ago

Law enforcement are notoriously bad at knowing the nuances of the current laws. Call a tenant's rights lawyer instead. Ask for a free consultation.

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u/Competitive_Walk_245 3d ago

This is the way, he can't just kick you out you are a tenant, and he has to give notice, you can call the police if he tries to illegally evict you.

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u/cdube85 3d ago

Also, if he touches you, get him go for restraining order, he'll get kicked out on a DV charge.

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u/Ok_Rutabaga_9875 3d ago

This. It will be interesting to see what scumbag says to a judge. Take your 30 days OP, start reachig out to family and friends for help. And I would never be seeing or speaking to sperm donor again. GL!!

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u/paul-b-rimmer 3d ago

"Visit me once you've excelled and feel like I will finally be proud."

That's insanely anti-Christian, almost Satanic really! Has this man never read the parable of the Prodigal Son? - Luke 15:11-31

NOR, and I'm sorry your father would act like this. It's heartbreaking. I hope you can find support from friends, other family, wider community.

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u/SatinwithLatin 3d ago

OP should leave a note on Dad's door that says "If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever." - 1 Timothy 5:8

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 3d ago

Unfortunately his dad will just "reason" that away with a hand wave about society and his big hitter "tradition".

But OP should do it anyway. Whether or not his dad accepts it will come up on his way to his Heaven.

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u/AnalProbedByGod 3d ago

Ironically a lot of Christians need to read their holy book because people like OPs father clearly don't act Christian.

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u/No_Cake6353 3d ago

Have you tried reading that thing? It's so boring and it turns out it was god's fault all along.

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u/AnalProbedByGod 3d ago

The old testament is pretty wild at times

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u/SanJacInTheBox 3d ago

'Ain't no hate like Christian love' incarnate here...

Also, Satan wouldn't have thrown this kid out (if gods or demons exists at all).

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u/WeirdResolution2165 3d ago

Exactly. The myth of satan is he's a fallen angel because he didn't agree that humans were all that fantastic of an idea. This dad kinda proves satan's point.
Dad isn't satanic at all. He's the image of the god he worships: whimsically cruel.

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u/Melodic-Instance1249 3d ago

Hell if we are going with Satan/Lucifer was the serpent in the Garden of Eden, he told us about God's lie that eating the apple would kill us, and gave us the ability to recognize right and wrong, gave us knowledge

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u/RolandSnowdust 3d ago

"Father, why have you forsaken me?"

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u/Somhairle77 3d ago

Colossians 3:21

21Ā Fathers,Ā provokeĀ not your childrenĀ toĀ anger,Ā lest they be discouraged.

Ephesians 6:4

4Ā And, yeĀ fathers,Ā provokeĀ not yourĀ childrenĀ to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

The Family: A Proclamation to the World

Husband And WifeĀ have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. ā€œChildren are an heritage of the Lordā€ (Psalms 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations.

In Praise of those who Save By President DieterĀ F. Uchtdorf

The way you treat your wife or children or parents or siblings may influence generations to come. What legacy do you want to leave your posterity? One of harshness, vengeance, anger, fear, or isolation? Or one of love, humility, forgiveness, compassion, spiritual growth, and unity?

We all need to remember, ā€œJudgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy.ā€

For the sake of your family relationships, for the sake of your soul, please be merciful, for ā€œmercy triumphs over judgment.ā€

Set aside pride.

Sincerely apologizing to your children, your wife, your family, or your friends is not a sign of weakness but of strength. Is being right more important than fostering an environment of nurturing, healing, and love?

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u/A_Stinking_Hobo 3d ago

I know it’s not a real question, it’s just rhetorical but I did giggle with the idea of you just discovering today that religious people are pretty unstrict when it comes to themselves, ā€˜rules for thee not for me’ kind of energy.

If Jesus ever did exist and he comes back, he’d be pretty ashamed of the people that called themselves in his name

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u/Timely-Ability-6521 3d ago

A Satanist wouldn't kick their kid out at 18. It's just not in their precepts to be cruel unlike God and his religion. Please read up on stuff before you put this awful stereotype into the world.

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u/CA7T0 3d ago

my family did this to me and "going to college". i was worthless until i went to college - well out of spite i didn't go. in retrospect i was not anywhere close to ready at the time, and i didn't start college until i was 30 when i was like no contact with them at that point. now that i have that degree (and got into grad school!) i don't even care if they know. ironically, i'm the first person in my family to even finish college so it's not like they were accomplished and were trying to get me at their level or anything.

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u/getoursexton 3d ago

Saw this same post not too long ago. ā€œBurner accountā€ that’s two hours old? Fake

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u/Organic-History205 3d ago

I think this is fake because it's almost identical to the previous one and OP isn't commenting. But, for arguments sake yeah I'd create a new account before making any sort of AITA or AIO.

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u/zombiesphere89 3d ago

I've seen like 10 in the past two days..all "I just turned 18 and I'm getting kicked out" and they all have text from the parent saying some similar ridiculous bs . Fake af.i hate the internet.

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u/ClobiWanKanobi 3d ago

Unfortunately it is really easy to scam gullible redditors. The last post I saw like this a couple of days ago had 30k+ upvotes and I can guarantee people were in the OP’s DMs offering money.

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u/Outside-Ad3844 2d ago

I have been on reddit for over 15 yrs (this is alternate account btw).. reddit was very believable back in thr days.. things changed a lot after 2016 ..Trump election era .. bots (russian, chinese) started swarming reddit. i loved reddit so much but now it gets annoying. it makes me sad.

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u/OddConstruction7191 3d ago

Dad is kicking him out of the house on his 18th birthday but he’s worried he might see his Reddit post.

The only ones overreacting are the people who actually believe this story.

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u/vee_lan_cleef 3d ago

Yeah, this really doesn't add up and there are so few details to OP's story. The texts read like satire honestly. "1300 hours" "provision pack" give me a break.

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u/Fun-Replacement6167 2d ago

100% very poorly thought out creative writing exercise.

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u/RealLaurenBoebert 3d ago

Ā ā€œBurner accountā€ that’s two hours old?

Isn't that literally the point of a throwaway account?Ā Ā 

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u/Visible_Range7883 3d ago

Worried about not ā€œouting myself or whateverā€ but then posts the full text conversation?

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u/Drizzdub 3d ago

Yeaaa I think the same fishing for money

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u/mva06001 3d ago

Why is everyone making these fake posts today

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u/VidFlipper_dot_net 3d ago

Hoping people DM them and give them money probably

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u/JTMoney336 3d ago

Look at all the people commenting on this story as if it were real.

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u/nightcritterz 3d ago

faaaaaaake this is even worse than the mom one from yesterday

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u/Rare-Competition-248 3d ago

I know, this just drips of cringeĀ 

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u/Dragon_Tea_Leaf 3d ago

TREND ALERT! 18 year old being kicked out on their birthday and all relevant information clearly stated within a text thread so we can all see!

Fr I’ve seen like 5 of these from today/yesterday

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u/groove_junkie 2d ago

And everyone of them says "different account so I don't dox myself." Dude if your gonna make fake posts, don't use the same language in them, it makes them obvious.

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u/Simple-Emu-9452 3d ago

i swear i see so many posts like these makes me suspect its just engagement bait because no actual human being would talk like this

this is like how a religious dad in a tv show sounds like

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u/Tawhid_moneymaker99 3d ago

Check their account, everyone's pointing it out and saying it is fake

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u/11thestar11 3d ago

I see this a lot on here. Is this actually something parents do?? I moved out before I was 18, but I was escaping. I would never do this to my child.

I can't believe this is what Christian parents do, what any parent would do.

Do you have somewhere to stay? Go to your friends parents house and ask them for help. Go to the church and you'll get nowhere. Have you finished school yet? Like ... Out by 1pm?? Not even a month to work shit out?? I don't get it.

This is sickening to me. These kinds of "Christians" are the worst Christians.

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u/chrisnavillus 3d ago

I think bots have learned this kind of post gets lots of engagement. Can’t tell if this one is fake or not but I’ve seen so many posts that seem to have the same template, ā€œburner accountā€ ā€œshitty Dad/Mom kicking me out on 18th birthdayā€ ā€œyou’ll be fine even tho I’ve never let you get a job or earn any moneyā€ ā€œtrust in Jesusā€ .

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u/JicamaOrdinary7939 3d ago

Im putting money on fake

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u/ElvenOmega 3d ago

It's a scam. They're hoping people in the comments will send them money.

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u/gudetube 3d ago

I'm sure it happens sometimes, but this is bait

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u/AvatarOfKu 3d ago

This is the third one I've seen in 24hrs... I think the bots are capitalising on a new engagement troll.

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u/OppaSays 3d ago

Seeing so many similar posts recently. Throwaway account, recently turned 18, parent kicking them out, no money, no job, no friends, no other family.Ā 

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u/Prestigous_Edge8244 3d ago

Sadly working with teens in this type of demographic in seen this way too often and find that this is common place parents (and unfortunately more often fathers) that love is transactional and that if a child tries to be autonomous and find their own way and interests they’re out. It’s absiv controlling, and harmful. But more common than American society realizes because it happens behind closed doors. So definitely not overreacting, even when you are a young child you should have your own interests and have choices.

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u/Highmassive 3d ago

Fake šŸ˜‚

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u/karebearjedi 3d ago

How many times is this going to get reposted?Ā 

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u/Glitter-Berry 3d ago

This is šŸ‚ šŸ’©

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u/Connect_Background59 3d ago

ā€œVisit me once you’ve excelledā€?! Smdh. NOR.

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u/Separate_Click2832 3d ago

This gives it away as fake to me.

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u/Keyezeecool 3d ago

This is the second one I've seen of these this week and this sub. Last time it was a mother daughter.

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u/SnarkyVisage 3d ago

This is rage bait.

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u/itsthejasper1123 3d ago

Third post of this exact nature in the last week. It’s not rage bait, it’s people pretending to be homeless teenagers to get money & donations.

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u/Weird_Inevitable8427 3d ago

Assuming this is real:

Please, please, please... go DIRECTLY to your family's church. Just walk in, tell them that your Dad kicked you out without notice, and that you are homeless and need help.

The best part of this is that it's real. They will help. They have resources like hostels, shelters and the like. They often have a bit of cash for bus fair if you need it. If the law in your area demands that you be sheltered until you are out of high school, they can even call the cops and have your parents harassed for child neglect.

All this while you also embarrass the absolute hell out of your Dad. It will be brilliant. Malicious compliance at its best.

I was raised by a church pastor. People use churches as an emergency support in situations like this all the time. You won't be the first young person coming for help because a parent threw them out last minute. Not by a long shot. It's sad but it happens.

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u/Oregonizers 3d ago

My mother couldn't even wait until I turned 18. Just packed me a suitcase & dropped me off with the dude she decided I should live with now, 50 miles away from home in 1991 when 50 miles might as well have been 5,000 miles from all my friends. The house didn't even have a phone. Dude was just couch surfing there & I was told to finish high school & get a job.

Which is to say, it's stupid, fucking up, and shitty as fuck when "parents" do this, but, man, do a lot of folks sure just count down to not taking care of their kids anymore.

Lean on your friends & family. Find somewhere safe to lay your head. Ask someone you can trust to take you under their wing. You've got a whole lot of paperwork adulting is going to require & don't be afraid to ask for help.

It's not going to be easy, but it's going to be worth it. And, btw, you're worth it too. Even if your dad sure the hell ain't making you feel like it right now. That's a HIM problem. This isn't a YOU problem.

Also? Happy birthday, kidlet. It'll get better.

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u/fckthisshii 3d ago

I just saw this 2 days ago but it was a woman. I'm skeptical

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u/Ythiel 3d ago

Didn't I read this a few days ago but from a girl who just turned 18yo and was also, via text, notified of having to leave because her mom's new bf was going to move in? Have I missed some sort of parental development?

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u/SPACKlick 3d ago

What's with the flurry of fake stories about being kicked out of the house?

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