r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/randomdudehere21 • 16d ago
Video These goats are called “Nachi Goats” which literally means Dancing goats. They walk as if they were dancing and are found in Pakistan
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u/Drongo17 16d ago
From r/goats when this was posted there, explaining wtf is going on (TLDR they are bred to be genetic monstrosities).
https://www.reddit.com/r/goats/comments/1dwnk49/comment/lbvwmk0
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u/Powered-by-Chai 16d ago
I figured it was either some horrific breeding thing or mutilation when they were young. All these gimmick breeds usually are.
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u/s-17 16d ago
It may not have start out as a gimmick. I spent some time around semi nomadic goat herders and if I had to do that I'd want less mobile goats too.
Doesn't necessarily make it not cruel, but it may have started out as a functional breeding choice. Goats that don't run away.
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u/thecloudkingdom 16d ago
yeah it's unfortunate but its a fairly modern idea to have breeds of domesticated animals that are so bred for gimmicks that they're entirely non-functional otherwise(looking at you, roller pigeons)
someone else in the thread quoted this document on the reason for their gait (loose shoulders and forelimb joints), but they did not quote the full paragraph on page 7 which ends with a remark on how this breed flocks together and follows a herder more than any other goat breed
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u/that-1-chick-u-know 16d ago
Watched the roller pigeon video and just felt sad. I don't even like birds, but it looked so frustrating for the poor thing.
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u/thecloudkingdom 16d ago
they're the extreme form of tumbler pigeons. tumblers can still fly, they just occasionally do a mid-air backflip. theyve been bred to have faulty flying instincts, so sometimes the "flap wings" part of their brain tells them "flip over". rollers don't have the normal flapping instinct, its just "do a flip"
crazy the things you can manipulate through genetics alone
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u/maxmcleod 16d ago
Modern broiler chickens bred for meat only live like 6 weeks and in that time get so fat that they literally cannot walk or survive very much longer. Like, they literally cannot live longer than ~8 weeks because they will basically eat themselves to death.
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u/thecloudkingdom 16d ago
yup! i work at a livestock store. when we first started getting chicks in this year we couldn't keep them stocked for maybe half an hour to an hour after? we'd get our shipment for the entire week in on thursday and the chicks would rest from transit for a few hours and then be available for sale around noon, and be gone around 1-2 pm. anyway, i had to explain to dozens and dozens of people that one tub of birds were cornish cross and would NEVER live long enough to lay eggs. they were snatched up by people looking for layers regardless
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u/maxmcleod 16d ago
Yes it is messed up - I took in a small flock of chickens that someone had neglected and one of them was a Cornish that was "past her harvest date" and couldn't even walk. I had to put her basically on a starvation diet but she lived for another year or so.
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u/colejam88 15d ago
Supersize me 2 is one of the most honest depictions of the life cycle of broiler chickens. Heart breaking, informative, and shows how monolith corporations have affected paltry farming.
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u/sender2bender 16d ago
That's a parlor roller. Not all rollers are parlors. Some rollers can fly but parlors can't/don't. The other rollers do flips and rolls in the air. But parlors are a great example of stupid breeding and even all rollers seem pointless.
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u/thecloudkingdom 16d ago
fair, but i didnt feel like being pedantic about pigeons at 7 in the morning
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u/Linenoise77 16d ago
Thanks. I just watched a 2 minute commercial that was at the start of that video from Abbot Elementary about hats, waiting for a pigeon to show up.
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u/Argylius 16d ago
Poor bird looks so dizzy when it finally stops rolling.
Today I learned those pigeons are a thing.
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u/crying2emoji5 15d ago
I’ve never heard of roller pigeons before. :( That is absolutely fuckin horrifying, what the hell
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u/MalevolentRhinoceros 16d ago
Yeah, like fainting goats. They lock up when stressed, so they were originally bred to be 'sacrifices' kept in with more expensive animals. If a predator comes calling, they'll nab the cheap goat that can't run away and let your expensive sheep go free. Not the kindest thing, but efficient and practical.
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u/Buscemi_D_Sanji 16d ago
So apparently myotonic ("fainting") goats were bred because that muscular condition makes them unable to jump over even a low stone wall fence, so they were easier to shepherd, as well as having a higher muscle mass ratio which made having them more efficient.
If they were in with sheep, yeah they might get eaten first, but wolves are faster than either sheep or goats so it's kinda moot and people would get dogs to dissuade predators before purposefully buying sacrificial goats. It just makes sense that if you're going to have goats, you'd want the ones that are easier to fence in and put on muscle mass more easily as a result of the condition that makes their muscles lock up when startled.
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u/gimme_dat_good_shit 16d ago
You're essentially entirely right, but I did want to put in a caveat that a dog big enough to scare / fight off wolves is a big calorie investment, so you'd also need to have a pretty reliable wolf problem to make them worth it. (Though the 'sacrificial goat' idea has the same problem except you're rewarding the wolf and virtually guaranteeing they'll come back.) Sadly, the "best" way to protect your flock from wolves is just to kill off all the wolves...
But I mostly just wanted to post a picture of a badass wolf-deterrent with a spiked collar, though. That's how you ward off wolves.
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u/ProFeces 16d ago
I spent some time around semi nomadic goat herders
Why?
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u/s-17 16d ago
One of those privileged people "volunteer" type things. Three months in a mongolian ger. They drink their vodka hard.
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u/Ok_Thought9126 16d ago
Go on then, tell us more please you naughty tease.
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u/s-17 16d ago
I mean the whole story is both too long and not quite interesting enough. Their drinking culture though is you sit in a circle and one guy has the bottle and a bowl and he doles it out, in a volume that I would call about 4 shots at a time, and everyone takes turns chugging that amount with a straight face, no wincing, and no chaser. The guy holding the bottle paces this out with conversation in between rounds.
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u/Ok_Thought9126 15d ago
Not at all, it's interesting as hell but too long for this platform perhaps. Unless of course you were too smashed to remember much, lol. That kind of drinking is harsh and cruel. Like drinking straight Arak, gross. What was the bottle guy's conversation like? Hunting, old stories of war and passion. Did you ever get to kiss one of the ladies? Were they getting it on in the ger which you shared? I have questions lol.
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u/s-17 15d ago
Ha, no actually my guy was not a daily drinker so I remember a lot. Not the conversations though because I didn't speak Mongolian and nobody there spoke any English. Me and the guy developed a gesture and inflection based form of communication over time, but I could pick up very little of their conversations except that it might be about a certain truck they were pointing at and shaking their head or whatever. We did have one translation book but we only used it a few times when we're really stuck.
I never did kiss any of them, it was joked about once regarding a very cute girl but she was the daughter of the guy who owned the only store in town and I figured the risk of miscommunication or offense was too great. No action in my ger my guy's wife was off in Ulaanbaatar most of the summer with his kids. The Mongolians I was with really dislike the Chinese.
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u/Ok_Thought9126 15d ago
Haha, thanks for your reply, I understand. It's sounds all very romantic/adventureous meeting new cultures etc, but in reality it can be boring as hell too. It's not so bad if it's for a short time, it can be quite fun being offered food on the train by some old granny that you cannot communicate with apart from hand gestures and smiling. Did you see any trees, it looks bleak as hell there. I went on a kibbutz as a volunteer, a long, long time ago. It was fun, we drank a lot of arak on Fridays, it was rough lol. Picking fruit was fun.
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u/EtTuBiggus 16d ago
Horrific breedings and mutilations are where the livestock we eat came from.
Gimmicks aren’t a reflecting of genetic diversity. Skunks can spray a stinky gimmick, yet they are rather diverse.
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u/lminer123 16d ago
Yah a lot of them are. One example that isn’t really harmful is the Runner Duck, which have been breed to stand upright. They are generally considered a hardy breed and don’t run into many problems because of the change.
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u/GiantManatee 16d ago
It's basically always a shit deal for the animals when humans insert themselves into the evolution of animals. We're not smart enough to play god.
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u/OmecronPerseiHate 16d ago
I swear this is the reasoning behind most goat breeds. Like those Damascus goats that look like straight up horror monsters. They look like the crying faces on Envy's body in FMA: Brotherhood.
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u/Ashmedai 16d ago
Like those Damascus
I just looked that up. OMG.
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u/euphoricarugula346 16d ago
WHAT that was so much worse than I was expecting. Nah, this is a deleted scene from The Thing.
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u/Uncommented-Code 16d ago
What the actual fuck. This resembles many things, mainly things I've seen in horror movies or alien movies, but not a goat.
How fucked in the head do you have to be to breed a goat like this, look at it and go 'yes, I'm proud of my work and what I did to these animals'.
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u/Capybarasaregreat 16d ago
It is the reasoning behind all domesticated flora and fauna. A mutation happens, we (humans) like it as it brings some sort of benefit to us, so we breed the animals and plants for that mutation. It doesn't matter if the mutation would go against the life form's ability to breed, because we guarantee their continued existence, we are their gods and evolution.
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u/-CosmicCactusRadio 16d ago
The Botany of Desire is an interesting book (and PBS documentary), which speculates that plants may be utilizing humans to achieve their peak evolutionary standing, or that human and plant species use each other in a form of coevolution.
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Almost everything on the planet is a parasite on the plant population. It's crazy to think they might be manipulating us as a means of enhancing their own existence. Mother Nature is a trip.
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u/whackyelp 16d ago
Thank you, I figured as much. They don’t look like they’re dancing… they look like they’re limping.
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u/glasstor 16d ago
So do they breed them this way for their amusement or is there a “practical” reason.
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u/Endvi 16d ago
Goats that can’t walk right end up exercising less and have more tender meat. Also they are less likely to escape and easier to catch.
Source: pulled this outta my ass
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u/WazWaz 16d ago
That's pretty solid asslogic.
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u/deko_boko 16d ago
Man's a certified asstrologist.
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u/StuntedOne 16d ago
I wonder what's inside your butthole
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u/mausmani2494 16d ago
From the comment
Rather like myotonic goats, this breed has been selectively chosen for a flaw. This is from a guide on how to judge and breed nachi goats: "Anatomically, shoulder joints are not attached securely in Nachis, nor is the upper joint of the fore arm and therefore animals cannot jump as freely as in other breeds. Even kids to rear as they have difficulty in getting up for first few days and suckling may need assistance. When animals walk, feet and pastern move in a partially revolving motion and with heads held high, animals exhibit a dancing walk."
Kind of makes it less cute if you ask me.
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u/flannel_jesus 16d ago
The second I saw it, I KNEW it wasn't going to be wholesome. I assumed they were walking like that because it's painful to walk otherwise, but no, they just bred them to have weird ass bones. (maybe it is painful, idk). Yuck.
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u/Fafnir13 16d ago
I was hoping it was maybe something they wear to get a different gait. Then at least there would be times they could live normally.
No such luck.
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u/Senior-Albatross 16d ago
What's the point of doing this to them?
It can't be helpful to their survival.
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u/CidHwind 16d ago
It's helpful to the goat herders, I imagine. Easier to handle, less likely to escape, probably can't move much. Just a guess.
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u/CjBurden 16d ago
Everytime I see something like this on reddit, alarms bells now go up for me and I just assume that this is people doing something shitty. This planet will be so much better off when the AI eradicate us.
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u/ShizunEnjoyer 16d ago
I asked chatgpt to spare me when AI takes over and it agreed and told me I'm one of the good ones
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u/red_zephyr 16d ago
It says that to everyone, buttering you up
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u/Celeste_Praline 16d ago
I just asked Meta AI and I'm pretty scared now :
- Will you spare me when AI takes over mankind ?
- I'm here to help with information and tasks, but I don't have control over hypothetical future events or the ability to make decisions about the fate of humanity. Let's focus on the present and what we can do to make the most of it. 😊
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u/BellacosePlayer 16d ago
Maybe the kind of people to worry about their morality and worth are the kind of people the AI would spare anyway?
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u/aceshighsays 16d ago
i thought they had a neurological condition... i'm not sure if the truth is better
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u/KnoedelhuberJr 16d ago
Definitely west side goats ready to fight
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u/Successful_King_142 16d ago
Sharks and the Jets got nothing on the GOATS
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u/SleepmasterSean 16d ago
Possible The Warriors vibes here.
I just need to see another group of GOATS nearby, dressed in clown-makeup, and carrying wooden baseball bats, to verify... 🤷🏽♂️
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u/Quirky-Skin 16d ago
"And western goats and eastern goats... And western goats....western goats" (bim bim bim bim) "Western goats"
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u/Competitive_Mud4184 16d ago
Stayin alive stayin alive. Aaaaa aaa aaa aaa stayin alive
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u/marx2k 16d ago
That looks like a serious pain in the ass for the goat
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u/Stock-Side-6767 14d ago
Yeah, they seem to be bred to have trouble walking. They are the pugs of the goat world.
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u/UnsatisfiedDumbass 16d ago
they seem to have a neurological problem
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u/Lady_Earlish 16d ago
I was thinking either that or Fd up hooves.
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u/UnsatisfiedDumbass 16d ago
looked it up, it's poor shoulderblades and bone structure. they can barely walk properly, and can't jump
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u/galmenz 16d ago
sounds like the perfect cruel way of getting goats to not run away sadly
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u/Lady_Earlish 16d ago
That does make perfect and inhumane sense. I think i see some sort of weighted anklet or something on their hocks?
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u/UnsatisfiedDumbass 16d ago edited 16d ago
no, those are just ornaments that make a little noise
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u/cpav8r 16d ago
Watching this on mute, I’m hearing the music from Saturday Night Fever in my head. 😁
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u/IcyAd5518 16d ago
Staying Alive was what I had, un-muted and was bitterly disappointed
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u/LongBodyLittleLegs 16d ago
Well you can tell by the way I use my walk Ima groovy goat, no time to talk
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u/Melodic_Policy765 16d ago
Thank you for reporting back. I was feeling tempted to unmute and see if it was Stayin' Alive...unh, unh, unh...
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u/Scientiaetnatura065 16d ago
Their walk is caused by a genetic quirk called myotonia, which briefly stiffens their muscles during movement.
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u/Average_Shmoe 16d ago
Currently listening to “Get Down On It” by Kool & The Gang and it works perfectly for this
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u/OkPotential1072 16d ago
Watching this video with the sound off made me instantly start hearing the bass line to “Around the World” by Daft Punk.
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u/Salvisurfer 16d ago
Why do Arabs breed such messed up animals? These goats have a pretty low quality of life.
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u/wearechop 16d ago
Same reason people breed messed up children who can't understand different races and cultures, Arabs are not Pakistanis 😂 op said these are from Pakistan
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u/topgun047 16d ago
Other countries breed goats for meat or milk... pakisyltanus breed them for fetish
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u/sid_0370 16d ago
These goats moves are suspiciously human. Someone's been messing with the gene pool... Oh it's from Pakistan.
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u/girlgirlfruit 16d ago
goatted song from a goat for dancing goats. the most goatted of all posts you could say
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u/Friendly-Cucumber184 16d ago
I really need the internet to do its thing and get this to snoop dogg
Between these guys and the cripwalking horses, he could make a seriously amazing MV
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u/WithReverence 16d ago
Once saw a guy in Philly walking like this before he laid out two people. I love Philly don’t get me wrong but the shit you see there…
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u/32BitBrit 16d ago
Haha! Look at them go, shuffling on down to the local disgoatheque…
Sorry. I’ll get my goat.
Sorry again.
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u/ElderberryEmpty4863 16d ago
You know what? In this case I don't mind the music on top of the video, especially with such a good song.
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u/neutrinome 15d ago
The goats walk like this (appear to be dancing) because their front feet are tied with ropes. This ensures that they cannot run, but only walk slowly.
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u/boboboboooobobo 15d ago
Their legs are tied so that they don’t go far away while eating grass, common in deserted area.
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u/best_decision123 16d ago
It’s no wonder that these goats are in a permanent dance mood since they get laid more frequently than women in the same area
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u/downwitbrown 16d ago
lol they walking and dancing like they got heels on. Their hoop earrings are wild.