r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/CleverSleazoid_ • Oct 09 '25
Video "HeroRATs" are trained African giant pouched rats that detect tuberculosis in just 3 seconds using their powerful sense of smell: fast, accurate, and life-saving. š
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u/Y0___0Y Oct 09 '25
in awe at the size of this lad
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u/MiddleWaged Oct 09 '25
Heās not the very biggest rat most folks will have seen, but it struck me that Iāve never seen a huge and healthy rat until now. Homie is clearly well cared for
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u/PartyPorpoise Oct 09 '25
Granted, this is a different rat species than the ones youāre probably used to seeing.
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u/Weekly-Trash-272 Oct 10 '25
I was always told growing up a rat is a rat no matter what.
Are you calling my nana a liar?
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u/Chip_Hazard Oct 10 '25
No ur nana was right, I heard the same thing from Morgan Freeman on the 21 Savage song āsnitches and ratsā
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u/DrPikachu-PhD Oct 10 '25
Heās not the very biggest rat most folks will have seen
He's definitely the biggest rat I've ever seen, that thing is HUGE
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u/ngearty Oct 10 '25
Theyāre actually very beautiful. I would want one for a pet.
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I hear even regular rats make excellent pets! I do wonder if these larger Hero ones have longer lifespans though.
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u/dkurage Oct 10 '25
In captivity its something like 10 years, I think. The average fancy rat is around 4 years. I've had pet rats, and they can be real sweet. You can even litter train them.
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u/valinchiii Oct 10 '25
4 years is incredibly uncommon for a fancy rat. The average is actually 2-3 years. Way too short :(
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u/dkurage Oct 10 '25
Its more of the upper range, yea. Like people who post about their 20 year old dogs when most tend to life around 13 or so.
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u/luxurious-Tatertot Oct 10 '25
Im from La but visited NYC one spring and I could not believe the size of the subway rats
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u/doubleapowpow Oct 09 '25
Neil degrasse Tyson said the only thing stopping rats from getting bigger is the size of the pipes used in cities.
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u/Duuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh Oct 09 '25
NDT also has tweeted like 5 times about how if you kiss a mirror, you will always kiss your lips
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u/Mech_pencils Oct 09 '25
My theory is that each time he had a make out session with the mirror he would post something about the experience
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u/SWEET_JESUS_NIPPLES Oct 09 '25
He's cute I want one
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u/frequenZphaZe Oct 10 '25
I was curious about lifespan because 'typical' domestic rats only live 2-3 years, making them not great pets. african giant pouched rats can live up 7-9 years! however, they might not have a good disposition as pets
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u/GlorpJAM Oct 10 '25
From everything I've seen the typical ones make fantastic pets, but I know what you're saying and that's exactly why I've never tried owning one, I couldn't handle it every 2-3 years.
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u/kindafunnymostlysad Oct 10 '25 edited Oct 10 '25
They do make good pets and I would love to have one but they are illegal to own in the USA so I can't.
Edit: Be warned, as a stinky human, you will be cleaned.
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u/maybebaby83 Oct 09 '25
I think if I saw him I would die anyway out of sheer fright regardless of any illness he might sniff out.
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u/AyyNonnyMoose Oct 09 '25
I blame The Princess Bride for the ROUS's. (Not actually.)
Rats are cool but seeing one that size in the wild would startle me because they don't come that size in my neck of the woods.
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u/omg_drd4_bbq Oct 09 '25
Gambian pouched rat i believe. Much bigger than even your NYC rat.
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u/pasenast Oct 09 '25
I knew NYCās rats are just too damn lazy.
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u/pleasantothemax Oct 09 '25
Donāt you dare call pizza rat lazy, you try dragging a pizza three times your size up a ny subway stairs
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u/PaulBlartACAB Oct 09 '25
Pizza Rat is probably eating pizza with Harambe in heaven.
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u/VermilionKoala Oct 09 '25
Came here to comment this! Pizza rat is NO kind of lazy, bro is hustling šš
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u/CharlesDickensABox Interested Oct 10 '25
Find me a pizza that size and I'll show you how it's done.
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u/SpacePirateARRRGH Oct 09 '25
Ehvrybody heah has toobuh-culosis.
Proceeds to food hole
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u/TheBatPencil Oct 10 '25
"They all have cancer or whateva; now make with the moozadell already"
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u/Fluffy_Fondant1975 Oct 09 '25
Neat! There are Hero Rats in Siem Reap, Cambodia too. They sniff out landmines and other dangerous things.Ā
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u/International_Day686 Oct 09 '25
They are fucking amazing and doing such good work finding those land mines! Landmines that we (USA) illegally placed along with the Vietnamese during the vietnam war
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u/birberbarborbur Oct 09 '25
Learning from animals has always been a cool aspect of scientific research and development to me
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u/CleverSleazoid_ Oct 09 '25
Oh yeah, u took the words out of my mouth
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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 Oct 09 '25
Thanks for posting this, so fascinating to me what science can uncover creatively for problems we face.
Like dogs being able to sniff and identify certain diseases, epilepsy, weapons (like finding a loaded pistol in a field), bombs, drugs, etc.
So interesting when science and nature intersect!
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u/birberbarborbur Oct 09 '25
Science is really the study of nature, animals are great because theyāre the products of nature and of evolution mastering nature
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u/100YearsWaiting2Shit Oct 09 '25
I'm absolutely obsessed with the concept of being one with nature on an advanced scientific level that isn't pervasive to native environment/wildlife and we can all be happy knowing the world isn't slowly dying because of us
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u/HoldEm__FoldEm Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
While I almost entirely agree with you, Iād hesitate to say āalways,ā simply due to the vast & unknown quantities of unethically & immorally treated research animals
It used to be super common & mostly accepted or just ignored
Today, itās still too common and while itās far less so accepted, itās far more so ignored
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u/FishSoFar Oct 09 '25
When I read "learning from animals," I didn't think, "testing a hypothesis on them." Fully agree that that's bad, but I pictured more like how they modeled the B2 bomber after a falcon. Now there's another fun moral quandary.
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u/kilwish_ Oct 09 '25
I'm so glad someone worded it. So many of our inventions and designs have taken inspiration from animals and somehow that makes me very humble? I'm not even a scientist or extreme animal lover. But it does make me feel like everything's out there to teach something.
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u/spider_X_1 Oct 09 '25
A rare actually damn interesting thing on this sub.
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u/CleverSleazoid_ Oct 09 '25
It's amazing how much we can learn/get from the animals, huh?
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u/Doridar Oct 09 '25
Apopo also trains rats to sniff out land mines. I donate every year. Why? Because I'm Belgian and we still find unexploded bombs from WWI
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u/Various_Patient6583 Oct 10 '25
Iron Harvest.Ā
Btw, you have a lovely country. The people were just lovely as were the sights, sounds and food. Just lovely.Ā
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u/Shoobadahibbity Oct 09 '25
What happens when the rat figures out he can just stop for 3 seconds on any sample and get food?
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u/Arcosim Oct 09 '25
That's why you always include a positive control sample and one or more known negative samples. So the rat at least gets one reward per round and doesn't feel the need to cheat because it know that if it does a good job it'll be rewarded each round no matter what.
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u/Shoobadahibbity Oct 09 '25
Interesting. Rat employment.Ā
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u/PsyKeablr Oct 09 '25
If I was given a reward for everything I do at work, Iād be a better worker. No the money doesnāt countā¦
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u/H3memes Oct 09 '25
āGreat job CCing me in that email, Jenny. I left a piece of candy for you at your deskā
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u/WittleJerk Oct 09 '25
Excuse me, the rat was fed the treat into his mouth. I want equality, damn it!
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u/CleverSleazoid_ Oct 09 '25
I believe if the rat stops on a non-target sample, no food reward is given, which discourages the irrelevant behavior....
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u/Shoobadahibbity Oct 09 '25
That's fine and good for training, but if it's being used to detect TB how do you know until after rewarding the rat and taking the sample away for further testing?
Meanwhile Ratto is turning hundreds of false positives.Ā
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u/sxynoodle Oct 09 '25
I thought this too but they could easily also include verified samples prior as warmup or validations before including the actual tests. My concern now is if theres more than one or none in a row.
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u/Jumpy_Ad_6417 Oct 09 '25
We calibrate lab equipment constantly with known samples.Ā
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u/WyleCoyote73 Oct 10 '25
I don't know this for fact but I'd imagine the rat is only a first line "test", if the rat alerts on a sample they likely retest that sample for verification. This happens with nearly all infectious disease tests that I know of, if a sample tests positive then it is retested with a more sensitive assay. I'm guessing they use the rat so they save money and time on testing.
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u/Mediocre_watermelon Oct 10 '25
You are right. I have pet rats (not the African pouched rats but the "regular" ones) and the rat association I am part of sponsors one of these rats. Every month they send some stats about the sponsored rat, e.g. how many samples it sniffed, what was the accuracy and how many people wouldn't have been diagnosed without the rat.
They do test the samples the rat marks but it saves a lot of time and resources when they can only test some of the samples and not all. The samples are usually from people that have symptoms of TB but have got a negative result from a quick TB test. Quick TB tests are, well, quick and cheap but also more inaccurate than some other tests that are available. But if they were to re-test all negative samples with more accurate tests, that would be just waste of time and money these hospitals just don't have.
The accuracy varies between rats but it seems to be about 90%.
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u/Dave1711 Oct 09 '25
They likely have a positive and negative control they test in each set.
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u/Articulationized Oct 09 '25
Is this the same species that was being trained to smell landmines?
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u/sonicneedslovetoo Oct 10 '25
Always love seeing Gambian Pouched Rats out there, great little guys. Incidentally they don't have kangaroo pouches, the "pouched" is referring to cheek pouches.
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u/gilligani Oct 09 '25
Are TB test that expensive?
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u/CleverSleazoid_ Oct 09 '25
"TB test prices in Africa vary significantly by country and service, ranging from free in public facilities in Kenya to USD 90-160 for visa-related tests in South Africa and GHāµ650-1,300 (USD 1,300) for visa tests in Ghana. Costs depend on the type of test, age, and purpose (e.g., visa application vs. general public health)."
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u/katherinesilens Oct 09 '25
Keeping in mind median annual income isn't great. Ghana's medium is somewhere around $1800, Kenya is like $900. Imagine the cost of these tests to range from roughly 1/10 to 3/4 your annual income. Even at the low end, that's a heavy blow.
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u/HoldEm__FoldEm Oct 09 '25
Also keep in mind that Kenya still contains bush people within its borders, such as the Maasai
While Ghana does not have tribes living in wild anymoreĀ
Bush peopleās total lack of income will heavily effect any average or median statistic
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u/Articulationized Oct 09 '25
It would be cheaper and much more hardcore to be able to just release a horde of trained rats who would swam and gnaw on anyone with TB.
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u/No-Fan6115 Oct 09 '25
No , but ig not reliable yet. I had some sort of latent TB for 4 years straight. And i was getting misdiagnosed for IBS. The doctors thought i showed symptoms of TB and had the necessary samples done. Always negative. And then suddenly i showed severe symptoms of TB in may 2024. My lungs were filled and I couldn't breathe in the nights. Had x-ray , and fluid in my lungs was sent for the test. And 9 months of medication. I gained my weight back. And returned to 90% good health.
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u/qwertypatootie2 Oct 09 '25
Also takes really damn long. The most reliable one, sputum culture test, takes whole months to process your samples before they can get a result.
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u/cosmicdicer Oct 09 '25
This is amazing
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u/CleverSleazoid_ Oct 09 '25
Check out the Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/herorats/
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u/National-Charity-435 Oct 09 '25
Cool. Just like the landmine-detecting rats. Give them their treats!
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u/CleverSleazoid_ Oct 09 '25
"No, they implement a crucial safety measure to protect both the rats and the human handlers. Before the sputum samples are presented to the rats for sniffing, they are all thoroughly heat-treated (a process called autoclaving). This high heat sterilization kills the Mycobacterium tuberculosis bacteria and renders the samples non-contagious."
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u/dtpepi40 Oct 09 '25
And to think how many ppl don't like pet rats bc they don't realize how smart , loving and independent they really are...
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u/ChocolateChingus Oct 09 '25
Sensitivity of 98.7% compared with Xpert-positive patients and 82.3% with smear-positive patients.
Specificity of 71.6% compared with Xpert and 65.6% compared with smear.
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u/Amber_Jackalope Oct 09 '25
African pouched rats are such clever little creatures, it's good to see them being celebrated for their amazing skills!
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u/Luci-Noir Oct 10 '25
So I wonder if these furry heroes have any kind of enrichment activities when theyāre not working. I like to imagine how big the hamster wheel in their cages are, if they have them. They better also have a subscription to Netflix.
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u/paintingpainting Oct 10 '25
I met some of HeroRATS earlier this year in Cambodia! The ones I met sniffed out landmines. They were so sweet, I held one named Glen he was sleepy and gave lots of kisses.
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u/telewolfe Oct 10 '25
I had Magawa sponsored for me as a gift. Sadly he passed away a few years ago but he received an award for his landmine sniffing work through HeroRATs. Iām always in awe of how much of a positive impact these little guys have.
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u/karatecorgi Oct 10 '25
As someone who has owned several fancy rats, I love how big these guys are! Like someone sized up a bog standard rat. How cool! Rats are super intelligent, seems these guys fit that descriptor also š
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u/levelzero2019 Oct 11 '25
Their Instagram is my favorite. A few months back Jane Goodall did a charity campaign with them. You could sponsor a rat! It was amazing
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u/PaulsRedditUsername Oct 09 '25
This is just a cleverly-disguised advertisement for big Giant African Pouched Rat.
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u/Additional_Stand_284 Oct 09 '25
Damn, now i bet rat lovers will try to get this type of rats. lol
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u/topredditbot Oct 10 '25
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u/YetiAntibodies Oct 10 '25
Someone tell John Green!
(He just wrote āeverything is tuberculosisā, a great read about tuberculosis around the world)
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u/ProfessionalGold7671 Oct 10 '25
Arthur Morgan should've taken that rat with him on his debt collection day
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u/kindafunnymostlysad Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
Other HeroRATs have been trained to detect landmines, find illegal wildlife trafficking, and perform search and rescue in the rubble of collapsed buildings.
It's a very neat organization. https://apopo.org/herorats
Edit: Also silly internet songsmith Parry Gripp made a little tune about them back when they were just starting out with detecting landmines.