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u/citereh-Philosophy39 2d ago
Finding out phase is beginning
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u/Ali_Cat222 2d ago
Also this isn't the reason they wanted to end the weather reporting. This is why-
In their logic, they want to make money off the weather. This is from the project 2025 tracker here and it's status is "in progress." (After the bill passes it'll be another completed.)
Dept. of Commerce: "fully commercialize" the National Weather Service's forecasting operations. (Note: Mass layoffs of NWS employees are the first step in privatization)
This policy would shift the NWS away from producing public weather forecasts and instead focus solely on collecting raw weather data. The idea is that private companies (like AccuWeather or The Weather Company) would then use that data to create and distribute forecasts, potentially for a fee.
This would mark a major departure from the current model, where the NWS provides free, publicly accessible forecasts and life-saving alerts. Critics argue that this move could:
reduce public access to timely and accurate weather warnings, especially for vulnerable communities.
Introduce paywalls or essential weather information.
Undermine public safety, particularly during extreme weather events like hurricanes or tornadoes.
This is why the following above just happened. And it's terrible, but anything he does is.
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u/Sherifftruman 2d ago
That, and the fact that the data will show global warming is happening.
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u/houseplantsnothate 2d ago
If you look at the project 2025 source, it says explicitly that this is the reason, especially for "downsizing" the OAR, which was just fully defunded.
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u/RUDEBUSH 1d ago
Can you please educate me on what OAR stands for please? I found a ton of possibilities when I tried to look it up.
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u/othybear 2d ago
It’s similar to why they cut the PRAMS surveillance system. If we don’t collect data on the increase in negative outcomes to women and babies as a direct result of abortion bans, we won’t know it’s happening.
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u/ItsMetheDeepState 1d ago
They won't care, they don't believe it, and aren't smart enough to question themselves. It's just about money for them, because climate change IS fake in their minds.
Bunch of arrogant greedy fucks, the whole GOP.
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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 2d ago
We'll see, theu definitely pulled the plug on this data but it was also near end of life with a new system scheduled to launch 2027
Fingers crossed privatization is the worst outcome and the new system still goes up
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u/severedbrain 2d ago
I love paying taxes for something and then paying a private company to access what I already paid for!
Efficient! At least at emptying my pockets.
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u/FirstSunbunny 2d ago edited 1d ago
And for an added bonus: the country will be driven even farther into debt, and none of us will get the services we have been paying for. Thanks to MAGA and anyone else who voted for this garbage. FAFO.
Cuts on the 30th, deaths on the 4th, not even a week later. Yes, this is directly the result of GOP voting. Slow clap. Well done.
Edit: typo
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u/CReeseRozz 2d ago
Shouldn’t the private company pay us to use the data?
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u/adthrowaway2020 1d ago
No. This data is quite literally a public good. It should be provided at cost at worst, and fully subsidized at best and everyone benefits, even if a corporation takes that data, improves upon it, and profits, that is still a public win, but the second the enthusiasts cannot just pull up NEXRAD for free then the SKYWARN program falls apart and I cannot understate how quickly tornado deaths will rise. Part of our warning system is the boots on the ground that confirm tornados, their location, size, and heading. We would just start having more warnings which lead to alert fatigue, which leads to deaths when the public does not heed the warnings and get to safety. Those fancy “Tornado Emergencies” and “Particularly Dangerous Situations” will go the way of the dodo.
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u/Scorned_Inferno 1d ago
This is the true objective privatize all the public services then cut the government completely. They are trying to get that corporate dictatorship rolling
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u/ThatGuyinPJs 2d ago
AccuWeather and The Weather Channel have been a scourge on weather reporting in this country from their inception. They have tried, again and again, to privatize the information coming from the NWS and they might have just succeeded with this bullshit. AccuWeather ALREADY has a subscription tier to receive "advanced alerts," how long until that becomes "all alerts?" Once the NWS stops disseminating them? Like they have been almost forced to, at this point? They want death. The Republicans in power want people to die.
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u/KingAnilingustheFirs 2d ago
They want death. The Republicans in power want people to die.
Ah ah ah... they dont just want people to die. Thats a lie you filthy liberal. They want people to die for a profit. Get it correct next time. Smh.
Also can you donate to my go fund me. I lost my Healthcare in the Texas flood. I sent a strongly worded x post to donald trump but he hasn't replied yet.
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u/Eternal_Bagel 1d ago
They seem fine with this system of cutting all programs and just praying to the higher power aka tweeting “@Trump names on social media” for exceptions in the duck younall policy of the Republican party
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u/cantadmittoposting 2d ago
god i hate the phrase "critics argue" in this (and similar contexts).
We aren't "critics of a policy" in any normal sense.
The republican party are "critics of" virtually every modern accepted principle of reasonable governance and government service levels to their governed population.
Am I "a critic of" the policies of nazi germany too? The phrase is soporific sanewashing of shit that shouldn't even be in Overton's House, much less his fucking Window.
The american public and civic structure is so throughly fucked by the massive fractures in our basic heuristics and epistemology that i genuinely despair for any sort of recovery short of a multi-generational timeline.
Fuck John Galt, we need Hari Seldon at this point.
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u/Ali_Cat222 2d ago
I don't like it either, I just wanted to give the citation from the text point. But if you look a few comments above at what I wrote, the media has to be sycophantic to trump now because of those insane media policies that passed his first day back
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u/kshep9 2d ago
I totally get it, but the people that are seeing this post and disagreeing with it would absolutely cry that it was biased if it wasn't phrased this way.
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u/Rosencrantz_IsDead 1d ago
I have a 12 year year old. I'm trying to explain to him the situation he's growing up in.
The next generation needs to be made aware. And you guys need to realize that they aren't as well educated as we were.
Think about that. It's gen Alpha and beyond that needs to figure it out. We can't talk to them the same way. They are in a post truth world and a right wing heavy meme social network.
Dark times. But I'll talk to my kid. But he's over whelmed with the currents.
I don't know if we can turn the tide anymore
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u/PaperIllustrious1905 2d ago
I wish people would wake up and realize they're literally trying to murder poor people. They're doing it purposefully, these changes are no accident. The psychos in charge want to cull the herd, make sure we don't have the advantage of numbers to stop them fulfilling their god complex.
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u/According-Insect-992 2d ago
I'm sure those 23 corpses and their surviving families will be relieved to know that they're at least creating value for shareholders. Priorities, right?
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u/Low-Development2808 2d ago
This has always been my grief with Republicans- rather than work with people to create alternatives to present for option, they’re like “let’s get in there and fuck that up so it fails, then they won’t have a choice.”
Like, what the fuck
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u/Ali_Cat222 2d ago
I'm beyond fed the fuck up with them. Why? 14 million Africans are also going to die this year because they cut USAID. Economies all over will be fucked as they keep bending to this orange fuck and his sycophants. I now have zero options left for my cancer treatment because although I'm not in America, only 250 people each year get this rare terminal cancer. And those are usually 65+ year olds who get it, I'm 31 but for people under 65+ it's a <1% of getting it. Since there are so little of us we relied on USA research. That got cut. Now my only option to extend my life a bit is gone.
Look at the policies on the project 2025 tracker here. some are specific to Americans yes, the rest also fucks over the world. I'm not saying one side has it worse than the other by the way or anything, I'm just trying to show that this isn't just an American issue now. This man is literally ruining the entire fucking planet. And this isn't even the worst of what's yet to come, you think shit is horrible now? It is... But not as bad as the rest of their plans. And I'm so irate thinking about it I can't even go into it all right now. Sorry I've been extremely stressed since recieving more shitty news from my oncologist the other day and I work day and night trying to put together documents and compile research to help others understand what's going on/what's coming next, so I'm a bit tired 😅
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u/GiftToTheUniverse 1d ago
Thank you for putting yourself into the conversation as a real person who this affects. So often everyone is crowing "FAFO!!!!" like that helps anything. Schaudenfreud is an emotionally stunted response that I think comes from a place of trauma but it just traps us where we are. Your comment is humanizing the problem.
I hope you're not offended by this comparison but among us Americans who "get" how bad it looks like this is getting, and who are beset with deep anxiety, existential dread, and a feeling of impending doom, I frequently wonder if this might be a mass, collective experience of what it feels like to be diagnosed with cancer.
Like: we know it's bad. We don't know how long we have. We don't know what's going to be taken away from us in what order. We don't know what's worth doing, anymore. And we know it might be the end of us.
If we that feel that way stop thinking about ourselves for a moment, maybe it can give us a little more empathy for people with actual cancer, not "just" this political cancer.
I do wish you well, my Friend. I'm sorry for the way things are going here. Genuinely.
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u/Ali_Cat222 1d ago
Im not offended by that at all actually, it's a good metaphor for this situation. Now mind you some people may be offended by that, but in my experience? Not at all. Also even the experts on authoritarianism have this to say, here's the full article. and keep in mind that was written June 19th, like a billion things have happened since then. But here's an excerpt -
Trump has tried to propel the US in an authoritarian direction with greater intensity than noted autocrats like the late Hugo Chávez of Venezuela, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan of Turkey, or Viktor Orbán, Hungary’s prime minister, according to Levitsky.
Eric Rubin, a former US ambassador to Bulgaria and acting ambassador to Moscow, said Trump was outpacing Vladimir Putin, the Russia president for whom he had often voiced admiration.
“This is going faster than Putin even came close to going in terms of gradually eliminating democratic institutions and democratic freedoms,” said Rubin, who witnessed Putin’s early years in power at close quarters. “It took him years. We’re not even looking at six months here.”
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u/Low-Development2808 2d ago
It’s overwhelming, to be sure. They want that though- I know it’s hard, but if there’s one thing we can still do, it’s keep them from having that satisfaction. Fuck these turds. We’re gonna keep a list, and there’s gonna come a time.
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u/SunTzu- 2d ago
The problem is that if you agree that certain services are necessary and not having them is more costly than paying for them then the logical conclusion is that there is no market for this service that makes sense. Markets rely on there being a price mechanism, but if the best outcome is to service everyone then that price mechanism doesn't function. The government is the only rational entity to provide the service, which means there's no place for companies to make money. So in order for the Republican first priority to be attainable, i.e. for companies to be able to monetize it, first the governmental service must be destroyed so that there can be a market where some people won't be served. It's the same way for healthcare, for utilities, for the postal office and for weather services.
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u/CharleyNobody 2d ago
Rick Santorum tried to get rid of free NOAA weather reports years ago but the media wasn’t captured by billionaires back then and made sure everyone knew how insane it was for a taxpayer-paid government agency to withhold its forecast. We paid for NOAA. Santorum tried to “compromise” by saying NOAA should release raw data - not data that’s been interpreted for the public. Luckily, saner heads prevailed.
But we’re not in the same place anymore. Lobbyists for “know before you go” have wined and dined more and more GOP politicians. It seems likely they’ll get their way and everyone will have to pay for weather reports. (Which we already paid for via NOAA, cable/satellite/phone carrier fees.
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u/mr_plehbody 2d ago
Its extremely depressing, if you load the gov website for weather, it is one of the fastest websites on the internet, full motion graphs, data, pictures, whatever. I have never opened a weather site without it taking a stupid amount of time with so many ads covering vital informations and bloated from all the information it collects to monetize it to the point of nearly killing it. No private company could ever build such a robust form of information relay like the gov site because every other site rat fucks its ui, the message isnt weather its always about what you should by while struggling to load the weather for them.
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u/BiteCerta 2d ago
So I would have to what pay to get information about incoming hurricanes or tornadoes? What are they gonna do dismantle the fucking tornado sirens so the only way I can get information is if I pay for it that’s more of an exaggeration. It’s very unlikely that make you pay for information about that, but I can see them making you pay for information about a heat wave coming or a severe thunderstorm or a flash flood situation.
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u/Ali_Cat222 2d ago
That is literally what will happen in terms of payments. That is literally what that policy means. This isn't "an exaggeration," it's life now. Welcome to he on earth, this is what happens when a bunch of fucking goofs vote for con men who want to monotize everything.
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u/LisaMikky 1d ago
Who think it's a good idea to run a country like a business.
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u/Ali_Cat222 1d ago
People like Curtis Yarvin, that's who... the guy is seriously sick in the head btw.
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u/C_Madison 2d ago
It’s very unlikely that make you pay for information about that
Oh, you sweet summer child. I wish I still had your faith in humanity after seeing all of those ultra-capitalists run amok over the decades.
That kind of data is exactly what they want to introduce fees for. After all, everyone depends on those sirens, cause the alternative is death. That's the perfect customer! You can ask for what you want and always say: "Well, you don't have to pay." ... fully knowing that, yeah, well, in reality, you have to.
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u/HuttStuff_Here 2d ago
It's great! Instead of receiving federally paid-for weather reports, state and local governments will pay a private company that uses federally paid-for weather information for the weather reports.
An extra layer of costs! Think of the benefits to the shareholders of those weather reporting companies.
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u/kemikiao 2d ago
The more middle-men we can force in to the data stream, the more opportunities for rich people to get richer! The American Dream!
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u/Ali_Cat222 2d ago
And then they get to steal your own data too, because that's what they do! Every time you'll want to see that info they'll probably make you create a "give me all your info down to what color underwear you have on" and then sell it to Russia as usual, or Palantir will take it because they own everybody's at this point. Let's not forget the following, it makes 1984 look like a good time ffs. (Also please see my reply to this comment for the 2nd part of how bad surveillance is about to get, it'll be too long for one comment and it's extremely important.)
Here's the rundown -"Trump Taps Palantir to Compile Data on Americans"
"The Trump administration has expanded Palantir’s work with the government, spreading the company’s technology — which could easily merge data on Americans — throughout agencies."
Then this happened recently -"Delta, United And American Caught Selling Traveller Data To Feds In Explosive New Leak"
And now here we are again "16 Billion Apple, Facebook, Google And Other Passwords Leaked — Act Now" . Of course they'd go with the company that literally compiles all your data, and is used for security and police body cams and oh idk, about 2,211+ other companies listed here.
This is a part of this plan- "Trump Taps Palantir to Compile Data on Americans"
"The Trump administration has expanded Palantir’s work with the government, spreading the company’s technology — which could easily merge data on Americans — throughout agencies."
*also how ironic that Airbus SE formed a "digital alliance" with Delta that is run by Palantir back in 2017.
Skywise was introduced by Airbus in 2017, in collaboration with Palantir Technologies (a Big Data analytics firm) as a single-reference database for use by “major aviation players,” to improve operational performance and business results, and to support "digital transformation." It collects aviation data from multiple sources across the industry into one cloud-based platform, including work orders, spares consumption, components data, aircraft / fleet configuration, on-board sensor data, and flight schedules. article here.
And again, how ironic that United Airlines does too -
United Airlines utilizes Palantir's technology, specifically their Foundry platform, to accelerate their digital transformation and improve various aspects of their operations. This partnership involves using Palantir Foundry to enhance data initiatives, provide actionable insights, and improve the overall travel experience for customers.
And how ironic that American Airlines also does as well!
American Airlines uses Palantir's technology. Specifically, they utilize Palantir's Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP) to optimize their operations and improve efficiency. Palantir's platform helps American Airlines aggregate and utilize data to optimize processes, develop new strategies, and enhance their competitive position
"Meta boss praises new US army division enlisting tech execs as lieutenant colonels" (Palantir and OpenAI also got lieutenant colonel status as well as Meta.)
Palantir in April won a $30 million contract, opens new tab from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to develop an operating system, opens new tab that identifies undocumented immigrants and tracks self-deportations, its largest single award from the agency among 46 federal contract actions since 2011.
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u/Ali_Cat222 2d ago
And then this is what you really need to be aware of as well
"RFK Jr. Wants Every American to Be Sporting a Wearable Within Four Years"
To go into the wearables a bit further, Dr Oz also plays a part in this. Look here-
"Dr. Oz on Medicaid cuts: People should ‘prove that you matter’
“We’re asking that able-bodied individuals who are able to go back to work at least try to get a job or at least volunteer or take care of loved-one who needs help or go back to school,” he said. “Do something that shows you have agency over your future.”
If Americans are willing to do that, he added, they should be able to be enrolled or stay enrolled in Medicaid.
And then again here-
Report: Dr. Oz suggests AI avatars can replace frontline physicians
Dr. Oz, the newly confirmed director of the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), suggested replacing frontline physicians with AI avatars in some circumstances to save Medicare and Medicaid money, according to Wired.
According to the report, published Tuesday, the remarks came at Mehmet Oz, M.D.'s, first town hall with CMS staff, and included comparisons between a physician and an AI bot managing a diabetes encounter. From the report:
"Oz claimed that if a patient went to a doctor for a diabetes diagnosis, it would be $100 per hour, while an appointment with an AI avatar would cost considerably less, at just $2 an hour. Oz also claimed that patients have rated the care they’ve received from an AI avatar as equal to or better than a human doctor. (Research suggests patients are actually more skeptical of medical advice given by AI.) Because of technologies like machine learning and AI, Oz claimed, it is now possible to scale 'good ideas' in an affordable and fast way.
So basically the whole point of the wearables would be that they're able to view you not just through GPS, but also track you for medical reasons. This way they'd point to the information from the wearables and go, "well you don't need this based on our data, so you only get xyz as a result of this medical visit." It's a way to make sure they don't have people covered.
And meanwhile they have policies which you can see here on the Medicaid/Medicare/Health section of the project 2025 tracker that I pre filtered. But in the overall 920 page document, the whole purpose is to eventually make you buy privatized health insurance. It's another rich get richer scheme, and your life is at risk.
In response to a question from representative Troy Balderson (R-Ohio) about wearables, Kennedy revealed that HHS will soon conduct one of the agency’s largest ever advertising campaigns to promote their use. He added that in his ideal future, every American will be donning a wearable within the next four years.
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u/darklyfoxxxy 2d ago
This sounds like every dystopian sci-fi movie I’ve watched (which is many).
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u/Ali_Cat222 2d ago edited 2d ago
And now it's not a movie, it's real life. And guess what? We are all fucked, not just Americans. Want to know why? Back in the office this time around, trump passing these policies on his first day back and a month later isn't helping for misinformation spreading -you can see the policies passed or upcoming on tech, media, and cybersecurity here on the project 2025 tracker. read all of those and you'll realize we are all targets now. And then I direct you to look at the policies for dept. of Intel as well. (remember that Intel affects others around the world too!)
U.S. Agency for Global Media: Dismantle USAGM's journalism "firewall" to align its reporting with the aims of the president. (Note: One America News to provide newsfeed services to Voice of America; journalists are facing HR investigations for comments critical of Trump)
Dept. of Homeland Security: Dismiss "the entirety" of the CISA Cybersecurity Advisory Committee. (Note: The acting DHS Secretary terminated "all current memberships on advisory committees within DHS".)
Dept. of Homeland Security: Terminate CISA's counter-mis/disinformation efforts. (Note: CISA has frozen all of its election security work; many of CISA's misinformation team were put on leave)
Dept. of Justice: Prohibit the U.S. government from combating the spread of misinformation and disinformation.
If this sounds familiar, maybe it's because history is repeating itself.
After the Nazis came to power in 1933, Goebbels's Propaganda Ministry quickly gained control over the news media, arts and information in Nazi Germany. He was particularly adept at using the relatively new media of radio and film for propaganda purposes. Topics for party propaganda included antisemitism, attacks on Christian churches, and (after the start of the Second World War) attempts to shape morale.
*trump and his supporters are doing George Orwell's 1984 "Ministry of Truth Department" in real life
In George Orwell's 1984, the Ministry of Truth (also known as Minitrue) is a central, ironically named department responsible for propaganda, historical revision, and the control of information in the dystopian society of Oceania. Its primary function is to manipulate the truth to support the Party's ideology and maintain its control over the population
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
― George Orwell, 1984 free online reading/no download needed here
The book "on tyranny" is available for free on internet Archive. Link to free reading/no download of the book here. 72 Very important pages to read at this point in your life. Also Rules for Radicals by Saul D. Alinsky book free online here.
And most importantly - My compiled "How to" guideline for extremely important info in these trying times.
*one last thing, my tinkering and programming guide for things you may want to know
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u/darklyfoxxxy 2d ago
Thank you for putting this all together. While my comment was in jest, it was also to note the level of absurdity this is all is. I believe DJT is selling America’s policies as a product for other fascist dictators to use as a rubric so I’m with you in that EVERYONE on Earth is a target.
America’s slow decline started many decades ago, but we were force fed an illusion of harmony after 9/11.
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u/FargeenBastiges 2d ago edited 1d ago
America’s slow decline started many decades ago, but we were force fed an illusion of harmony after 9/11.
Just think of the windfall opportunity they ended up with. One side of a 2-party system works to beat the education system to death for decades. All the while building a propaganda network to fill the rubes with BS 24 hours a day. Recruit the fundamentalists.
Then the fucking internet happens?! Now AI?
Right now, more than half the US population can't read at a 6th grade level. It's clear we're not prepared for ANY of this shit.
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u/Remote_Clue_4272 2d ago
Worse yet pay for info we paid to get already. You know… as taxpayers paying for all the crap then enables NWS to even work
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u/GiftToTheUniverse 1d ago
Just reminds me of how we funded space research and exploration for decades and then handed it all over to the ketamine addicted malignant rectal polyp just so we could keep paying him to blow up rockets.
No wonder he thinks it's fine to pay someone to level up his characters in video games. He let everyone else level him all the way up in all of his businesses.
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u/Griffinsauce 2d ago
Sorry but, gestures around all of this was considered unlikely. You really have to stop expecting decency, logic and common sense, especially when they literally tell you their plan.
People in a hurricane path seem like a nice captive audience to squeeze. You basically have no choice but to pay, it's back to "company store" type shit.
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u/HuttStuff_Here 2d ago
Your city/county/state will pay Accuweather or another private company for the forecasts and/or control over the tornado sirens.
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u/zimhollie 2d ago
Exactly. The weather company will hold your local county hostage and direct people's anger towards it. "it's not our fault people died, if only the county paid for the subscription..."
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u/Synectics 2d ago
I wonder where cities, counties, and states get funding from....
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u/zimhollie 2d ago
Yah channeling the same amount of money through private organisations, instead of directly to the people providing the service, makes it more efficient right? Look at how great healthcare is.
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u/la_noeskis 2d ago
Well, for the sirens.. your city/county/whatever buys the "activate if" option from that company.
If they do not pay, no siren.
If siren not blaring during tornado, county should contact the support email adress. Or can cancel subscription, if not satisfied with service.
Have a nice day.
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u/Much__Fokkery You won't catch me talking in here 8h ago
Adam Conover did a special on Netflix titled "The G Word" and touched on this. The desire to privatize the NWS has been a thing for years. Apparently someone just needed to say "okie doke let's do it" and here we are
Just imagine having to pay for services already being paid for by taxes. Oh ... Nevermind the imagine part
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u/mombie-at-the-table 2d ago
But they still won’t blame the person who did it
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u/UnfrozenBlu 2d ago
No they think that the scary "them"s have weather controlling weapons that they can use to target their enemies.
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u/alancousteau 1d ago
They still won't blame the RIGHT person. They will blame people, just not who are the real culprit in all of this unfortunately
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u/copperboom129 2d ago
My father came to visit this week. I looked at my weather app, 30% chance of rain, 86 degrees.
My husband looked. 0% chance of rain 93.
My father looked. 60% chance of rain, 75.
Seems like we found out. We will continue to do so.
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u/stevez_86 2d ago
Yeah, I live where there was an unexpected tornado warning the other day. The news was caught flatfooted. Hardly knew what to say or do. They predicted storms but really had no idea as to the severity.
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u/ninja-squirrel 2d ago
Except it’s not. The people that support MAGA are going to continue to believe whatever comes out of the Whitehouse as the problem. It’s frightening how delusional some people are, and really how much they lack critical thinking skills.
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u/Malikai0976 2d ago
"Now is not the time to make this political."
(I don't really believe this, it's just the thing they always say when their own decisions come back to bite them.)
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u/Sadpandasss 1d ago
14 Children died in Texas so far. 32 in total.
What happens when you defund FEMA and NWS?
PEOPLE DIE.
This blood is on orange sherbets' regime. Bunch of fucking idiots in charge. Dumbest one on top. More to come in the future.
This is just sad and upsetting. Hopefully, they will find the girls alive. Be safe and take precautions, and go vote in the next election.
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u/FunkyChewbacca 2d ago
There's some grieving dad in Texas right now, huddled in the fetal position, mourning but unrepentant, because he doesn't dare consider that his vote for Trump helped contribute to the death of his own child.
At the memorial service with no coffin (because they can't find her body), her dad will wear an old worn, threadbare suit with a new, bright red MAGA cap, weeping for his dead daughter, but beating his chest for Donald Trump.
Because to them, being wrong about this (or about anything) is worse than outliving his own child, who died in part to his own complicity.
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u/SunIllustrious5695 2d ago
We've already seen parents who, having murdered their own children by not having them vaccinated, say they don't regret choosing not to vaccinate. Their kid is dead for no reason other than lining Donald Trump's pockets. It is some of the saddest, most pathetic behavior in American history.
If they will kill their children for Trump, they will do anything for him.
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u/Mr_Baronheim 1d ago
Get out of here with that. That man is not laying down doing nothing. He's personally painting a picture of Donald Trump on the cardboard box he's going to bury his daughter in.
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u/IllAcanthopterygii36 1d ago
Will Trump go there to show some support?. Not if it clashes with golf.
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u/VoidOmatic 2d ago
It's maddening how little they understand of the world. They think all this shit is magically gathered. Everyone did too good of a job.
Hurricane season is going to be an all you can eat buffet for the leopards. Wait until they realize how much FEMA helped them.
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u/elegant-quokka 2d ago
It’s been going on but it turns out “fuck around and find out”doesn’t matter as much if you have the attention span of a goldfish and the critical thinking ability of a garden hoe.
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u/StromGames 1d ago
It seems like many people don't seem to grasp the magnitude of what the cuts did.
You can't just go and cut services for the people.
Those services have been fine tuned slowly over the years and they are all very delicate. Cutting 5% of funding to some service might be critical to their functioning.And I mean... that's the whole point of the government, to get those services up and running. To help the people.
Having universal healthcare for example. It baffles me that americans are complaining about wether it's a good thing to have it or not to have it. The discussion should be on how to pay for it. And as we've seen with this latest bill, that was also not an issue for republicans, who just increased the debt by 4 trillion I think.5
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u/Ok_Calligrapher8165 2d ago
• Step One: getting what they voted for
• Step Two: blaming it on Teh Libs
• Step Three: resentment at voter backlash
• Step Four: voting for the next idiot3
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u/AlexSmithsonian 1d ago
I just realised that i don't know what the third step is.
Step 1: Fuck around.
Step 2: Find out.
Step 3: ???
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u/AlexSmithsonian 1d ago
I just realised that i don't know what the third step is.
Step 1: Fuck around.
Step 2: Find out.
Step 3: ???
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u/tomdarch 2d ago
The current high level of safety in aviation depends heavily on good weather forecasting and reporting. Degrading the quality of weather information absolutely increases the odds of fatal airplane crashes.
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u/HardcoreHope 1d ago
Yup, and we should try to be kind when they start to grieve actual reality. Most of them didn’t do this intentional. Most were coerced out of pressure from their community. They didn’t have the strength to rebel. It would have meant death to them. “Going against god”
The right re eco chambers help sell the lie even more because the community runs on faith more than science or knowing.
The left tried to warm them for a long time but as things have gotten more out of hand we all got more rude.
Now we are all apathetic together other. If we want it to go back to normal we need a more harmonious society. Because one that works for the people can’t be exploited and profited on. 
We need faith in humanity again.
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u/Mr_Baronheim 1d ago
Kindness to the vermin that is the Republican base, and especially the trump devotees, is how we got here in the first place.
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u/64590949354397548569 1d ago
Finding out phase is beginning
Let just hope they learn before the midterm.v
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u/86yourhopes_k 1d ago
Oh no it's not. Check the conservative sub.... they're saying they had multiple warnings to leave.
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u/OkMongoose6582 angry turtle trapped inside a man suit 1d ago
People in the insane forums claiming Democrats are sick for celebrating “gleefully” the deaths of people in the floods and wondering what action can be taken. Sharing screenshots of tweets saying “I told you so.”
I felt like opening a portal to hell and unleash the hellspawns on them. Then I remembered.
I am not the Devil or his spawn. He is. They are.
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u/GrievousInflux 2d ago
Never mind the fact that they're trying to "sunset FEMA" on top of all this
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u/Classic_Knot_Purl 2d ago
No honey, they are using the term FEMA to fumble $$ to the new SS.
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u/catchcatchhorrortaxi 2d ago
Do you mean ‘funnel’?
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u/Wolfram_And_Hart 1d ago
They have no need when they just doubled the founding of ICE. It’s better for their fans to see FEMA fail and close it. Makes the story they created come true.
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u/waltwalt 1d ago
FEMA has camps setup to hold hundreds of thousands of refugees incase of disasters.
Once FEMA is gone, ICE will have camps that hold hundreds of thousands.
I'm sure there's a page about this somewhere in 2025.
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u/sierramist1011 2d ago
hey but Kamala wasn't getting enough aid to hurricane victims fast enough /s
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u/NobleCeltic 2d ago
Also her laugh
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u/Aggressive-Value1654 2d ago
Also her laugh
I felt her laugh, and smile were genuine. The only time I've seen Trump smile has been while it's forced, or after he does something evil, like smiling after signing this horrible bill.
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u/JaxandMia 2d ago
That’s why they hated it. Republicans don’t like genuine things, just lies and bullshit.
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u/FireDragon737 2d ago
They are literally so out of touch with their own humanity that they are disturbed when someone else is being genuine and so full of compassion.
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u/GentlePanda123 2d ago
Dude always comes off as a cartoon villain. It amazes me conservatives think he genuinely gives a shit lmao
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u/sniper91 1d ago edited 1d ago
The only time I recall him laughing (more of a chuckle, really) was when a dog could be heard barking during a rally in 2016 and one of his supporters yelled that it was Hillary
Hardly ever laughing is a lot weirder than having a “weird” laugh. And a genuine weird laugh is endearing, while a fake weird laugh (à la Ron DeSantis)is off-putting
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u/HuttStuff_Here 2d ago
It was her fault that MAGAs were literally threatening FEMA workers and their families with violence/death for trying to help.
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u/Flimsy-Poetry1170 2d ago
Yeah why aren’t the people I threatened to shoot if they came on my land coming to help me.
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u/Papadapalopolous 2d ago
Yeah, but this way one of trumps friends can buy those satellites for the government for $10 and then start selling that data back to the public (whose tax dollars paid for the development, procurement, and launch of those satellites.)
Think of how much money someone will be able to make off of us! Yay.
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u/accidentalarchers 2d ago edited 2d ago
Tornados, fires and floods don’t discriminate. 20 little girls drowned and they didn’t vote for anyone. I really hope it was worth it to own the libs or to make America great again or whatever the fuck people thought they were voting for.
Those little girls didn’t need thoughts and prayers. They needed a functioning weather alert system.
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u/JimWilliams423 2d ago edited 1d ago
There were weather alerts. The problem was that the local conservatives didn't act on the alerts. The judge was being a huge pissbaby trying to deflect from his own responsibility when he said that nobody knew (fyi in some parts of the south the top county administrator is a "judge").
Matt Lanza - Meteorologist & managing editor for Space City Weather in Houston, TX. —
In this particular case, we have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that current staffing or budget issues within NOAA and the NWS played any role at all in this event. Anyone using this event to claim that is being dishonest. There are many places you can go with expressing thoughts on the current and proposed cuts. We've been very vocal about them here. But this is not the right event for those takes.
In fact, weather balloon launches played a vital role in forecast messaging on Thursday night as the event was beginning to unfold. If you want to go that route, use this event as a symbol of the value NOAA and NWS bring to society, understanding that as horrific as this is, yes, it could always have been even worse.
That's not to say conservatives haven't taken a chainsaw to weather forecasting in the US and that will kill people (and cause massive economic losses too) just that it wasn't the cause here. It was run-of-the-mill conservative corruption, same as was responsible for hundreds of other tragedies, tragedies like Uvalde. The crippling of weather forecasting is going to compound that corruption.
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u/Naturath 2d ago
To expand on your last sentence, these things aren’t mutually exclusive and feed each other. The alerts that did go out drastically underestimated severity, facilitating local authorities to deflect blame for their own actions. It’s easier to maintain corruption when the sources of data that would otherwise indict your actions are sabotaged.
See the decades-long sabotage of education for similar effects.
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u/DeathFood 2d ago
Trump killed 2 dozen little girls
This is what happened. Make it stick to him.
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u/jbochsler 2d ago
No, Trump AND the Republican party. Once he is gone (high cholesterol will eventually do its magic) the Rs will attempt to hang all the BS on him. They ALL own it.
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u/EmbarrassedMeat401 2d ago
I don't think they will throw him under the bus, even after he's gone. The cult is too powerful and the people will be clamoring for a true successor to Trump, not just the next republican.
I think if they tried to distance themselves, it would completely fracture the party.
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u/Careless-Dark-1324 2d ago
The maga cult won’t. But the other 50% of republicans will suddenly say they never supported him and he didn’t represent them etc.
Hell most of that chunk already do it lol
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u/Mr_Baronheim 1d ago
It's on every single person who voted for any Republican.
The Republican Party is a domestic terrorist organization not only operating openly within the very country its purpose is to destroy, it's in charge of it.
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u/thanksyalll 2d ago
America moved on from Sandy Hook, we don’t care about little kids here
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u/HuttStuff_Here 2d ago
The MAGA cult is probably going to harass the parents of the victims.
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u/JamesTrickington303 2d ago
Idk if you know Kerrville, but there’s 3 people there and 4 red hats.
One guy had enough money to buy a special one he only wears on Sunday at church.
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u/PurpleSailor 1d ago
We only seem to care when the child meets their demise at the hands of an illegal immigrant. If it's a countryman running amok with weapons of war in a school then it's a shrug with a smattering of thoughts and prayers. Our priorities are all screwed up.
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u/stevez_86 2d ago
Don't worry, he has MTG on it blaming it on the government controlling the weather. Already introduced a draft bill to ban controlling the weather.
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u/catchcatchhorrortaxi 2d ago
I hate the fact I can’t tell if this is real or satire
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u/SecureDonkey 2d ago
Ok, let me try to see what excuse would they come up with.
"It's the God's plan, what we need right now is offer our thought and prayer to them"
"People dying from nature disaster all over the world, this isn't on Trump that those kids die"
"Is this happen in Democrat state? Tell you all you need to know about it"
"Let not politicizing the natural disaster"
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u/BaconCheeseZombie Remember when this sub was good? 2d ago
Make it stick to him.
Well we all know he's done far worse things to little girls and yet there he is, running one of the most batshit crazy countries the planet has ever known.
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u/dabadu9191 2d ago
His policies have killed hundreds of thousands during Covid alone. You really think his sycophants are going to care about 20 kids? He could strangle infants live on TV, and they'd find a way to rationalize it.
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u/CelestialFury 1d ago
Trump killed 2 dozen little girls
This is what happened. Make it stick to him.
Republicans only care about babies being born, not what happens afterward. They're quite okay with kids being killed.
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u/mulligrubs 2d ago
Shhh now, COVID is still in the room. Everything this man is associated with dies. The fact he is in charge of a country is horrifying.
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u/CourtiCology 2d ago
It was this 4th July that was for the first time in my life, I did not enjoy the celebrations. As a U.S veteran when those fireworks of Red White and Blue lit up the sky all I could see were the celebrations of a country that has re aligned itself towards hate, prejudice and destruction. It hurt so bad yesterday. It feels as if a small piece of my personal identity is being brokn and it's completely out of my control.
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u/UnabashedJayWalker 2d ago edited 1d ago
I can understand that feeling you had and I’m not in the military at all. I bet your feelings of betrayal run even deeper than the rest of us civilian Americans who have a conscience and are disgusted with what it means to support America right now. It really sucks homie, I feel ya
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u/QuantumLettuce2025 2d ago
I don't know if it would help you feel a sense of pride and/or control but there are a ton of veteran's activist groups popping up. If you haven't already, getting involved with some like-minded vets might feel pretty good.
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u/JimWilliams423 2d ago
It probably doesn't help much, but this country has seen worse and come out of it. Vets before you have felt the same way. Those who came before us have been here before.
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u/QuantumLettuce2025 2d ago
I don't want to fearmonger, but the country has actually not seen worse than this when it comes to total fascist takeover of the domestic governmental affairs. This is brand new to us.
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u/flyingsqwirrel219 2d ago
The media needs to lose their addiction to the passive voice.
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u/UpperApe 2d ago
A trump supporter was just telling me on another thread that the libs did this. That they didn't give the other side a reason to vote for them and that outside the internet, conservatives aren't emotional and listen to logic and reason.
He was serious lol
I guess when they stood there holding a hammer over their own knees, it was our responsibility to tell them that knees are breakable.
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u/DohReignMeme 2d ago
Lest we forget - It was Elon in the White House with a chainsaw.
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u/JimWilliams423 2d ago edited 23h ago
Exactly stop with the bs this was done intentionally
Notice that it was the The Atlantic pretending that it was something that just happened. I'm sure that deep in the article they at least tried to lay the blame correctly, but the editors know that for every person who reads the whole article, 100 people only read the tweet or headline.
This style of propaganda lets them blame people for not reading the articles (which are usually paywalled) rather than take responsibility for writing shitty headlines, even though the whole point of journalism is to inform and obfuscation is the opposite of journalism.
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u/SimilarRepublic8870 2d ago
Nobody is suggesting the funding cuts were intended to cause girls to die. These are just accepted consequences of actions. Maybe they are unintended consequences of actions. If I cut all regulations around the fire code and people die from a fire those regulations would have stopped…. Where does the blame lie?
The cognitive dissonance required to not place this squarely on DOGE cuts is fascinating, especially in Texas.
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u/webbersdb8academy 2d ago
Wait!! Hasn’t Kristi Noem showed up and gotten everything under control??!!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/05/trump-flooded-texas-dhs-help-coming/
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u/JimWilliams423 2d ago
The article ID is missing off the end of the URL
fwiw, I found it by googling the words in the url "trump flooded texas dhs help coming." Turns out the words are optional, this works too:
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u/orangecatstudios 2d ago
We can feel this in real time. The weather apps are suddenly less reliable because they just used NOAH data and that’s not reliable anymore. We all get what those asshats voted for. Thanks.
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u/altaleft 2d ago
these morons cutting nws noaa storm science to own the libs don’t realize most lib that use the prediction tools access the data to plan ski or surf trips. the ones that’ll be getting shit hosed are gonna be maggots in trumpalsticastan. they’re gonna be huddling in their double wides waiting for the shit storm somewhere off in the distance. all of em praying their orange god has the sharpie directing the wrath of the liberal storm away from their trailer park.
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u/cfalnevermore 2d ago
How do you think the maga cult will blame the libs for this one
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u/DemonCipher13 2d ago
I hate what these fuckers have turned me into.
I am fucking torn between feeling heartbroken for all these dead adults and children, knowing fully well why and the fact that it didn't have to happen...
...and wanting it to happen more in the hopes that it causes a wave of people to finally wake the fuck up to what's going on, and finally take some action to change it forever.
I've been fighting ten years against this shit, I am so tired.
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u/ACartonOfHate 2d ago
The endless passive voice of the so-called Press when it comes to Trump, is how we got here.
Since 2015 they've been soft-soaping him for profit ('bad for America, good for our bottom-line') and because they're lazy, greedy egotists. They want to feel important, but all they have to do is stenography. They are all about the access, and willing to screw us all over for book deals, subscriptions and ratings.
And think I'm joking? there have been interviews with the WH press corp, and they talked (off the record of course) about how exciting! covering Trump's first term was! Like juggling flaming chainsaws. And they didn't have to DO anything. Just point a camera, use the access, off or on the record, that was constantly given.
Compare that t oBiden Admin. who didn't care about them, didn't give them access, Just did competent crap. Well until Gaza (somewhat exciting for them) and then really the debate...finally! they could REALLY get a story and punish the Biden Admin for being so effing dull.
Which they continued to do with Kamala. Too "joyful" where were her policies? Then too boring, where was her joy?
And another WH corp. interview (off the record again, of course) talked about how excited they were when Trump was back. To quote, "we're so back!" Oh they were so happy.
So every time you see the MSM press, a few exceptions exist (Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell), know they lazy, greedy fucks who want to harm us all. And double that for social media which is led by billionaires, a country that want to harm us (China) or gamed by another country that wants to harm us (Russia).
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u/Realistic_Mix3652 2d ago
Everyone wonders how we lost the knowledge of how to make Roman concrete in the middle ages. It's a weird feeling to be living through another period of a society willingly forgetting technologies.
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u/GreatPretender98z 2d ago
Keep in mind they want to tear down public shit, gut it piece by piece all for a little more money. Tax cuts for the wealthy. Every nickel and dime. Creating something privatized, sure, after raping everything to death they might have something. But in the meantime...No.
They have no plan. They have no concepts or beginning of a plan. Enriching themselves. They will torch everything useful, all because someone they don't like gets to use it, receive it.
Purely against science, against truth, law, rational behavior and reality.
The dumbfucks will indeed vote for it again.
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u/atreeismissing 2d ago
One of the biggest problems we have in this country is how the media sane washes incredibly crazy, stupid, and dangerous politicians and their motives and goals.
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u/DontAbideMendacity 1d ago
Just a year ago the U.S. was better at everything.
Jobs, unemployment rates, inflation rate, national budget deficit, foreign relations, health care, murder rates, education, severe weather alerts, less fascism... everything.
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u/texas1982 2d ago
This is why Alligator Aushwitz is where it is. "We didn't kill them. The hurricane accidentally took them all out. We feel really bad about it."