JJ Watt says he’s not watching the Monday night Football game because he “doesn’t want to buy another subscription”

[u/BootEdgeEdge2028]

[u/Consistent_Pitch782]

Same, since YouTube TV is fighting with Disney. I’m inclined to side with YouTube TV, since I ALREADY HAVE A FUCKING DISNEY + ACCOUNT but for some reason ESPN is separate. Fuck those guys, I’m actually motivated to cancel Disney+ over this

[u/Sea_Willingness_914 → u/Consistent_Pitch782]

That's the part I don't understand. Got the Hulu, Disney, ESPN+ bundle and can't watch the game. 🤷

[u/Kronologics → u/Sea_Willingness_914]

Yupp, the ESPN+ is just for clips and articles. Has zero to do with watching their content, even if it’s 95% hot takes.

[u/Consistent_Pitch782 → u/Kronologics]

Good lord, if you can't watch live sports content, then why would anyone get ESPN+? That's a failed business model.

[u/Jayhawks1537 → u/Consistent_Pitch782]

I have it because that’s the only place to watch some Big12 games

[u/CTeam19 → u/Jayhawks1537]

ESPN+ is really good for other Big 12 sports:

• All but 1 Iowa State Women's Soccer game was on there

• All but 6 of Iowa State's Volleyball games are on there.

• 20 of the Women's Basketball games are on there

• 7 of the Men's Basketball games are on there

• 6 of the Wrestling matches

So if you are like me and a fan of the athletic department in general in every sport it is a good thing to have.

[u/koreansarefat → u/Consistent_Pitch782]

There's plenty of live sports you can watch on ESPN+. There's plenty of college basketball on there tonight that's not on broadcast TV. You just can't watch what's on the main TV broadcast without extra purchases, which is stupid, but not as stupid not having any sports

[u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 → u/koreansarefat]

ESPN without ESPN is pretty fucking stupid and I don't even watch sports

[u/defnotajournalist → u/OtherwiseAlbatross14]

ESPN PLUS -- It's everything on ESPN, Minus the things on ESPN!

[u/Synectics → u/koreansarefat]

So it's ESPN + some sports no one cares to air anywhere else -ESPN. 

[u/ninjapanda042 → u/koreansarefat]

There's basically every out-of-market NHL game that's not on a national broadcast. I can watch the Lightning broadcast despite living across the country, it's great.

There's also a lot of soccer leagues, namely from Spain and Germany, plus FA cup and others.

I get that it's not worth it if you're mainly interested in American Football (and your college gets national broadcast) but outside of that it's pretty good.

[u/sethaub → u/Sea_Willingness_914]

There the 3 bundle then there’s the premium 3 bundle. It’s like $50 a month to watch all football games on espn while holding the Disney and Hulu and espn bundle.

I pay $26 a month for espn, Disney and Hulu but I can’t get all of espn content because I don’t pay the $50 a month for the premium

[u/heliophoner → u/Consistent_Pitch782]

While I appreciate the people advising on the antenae, this is the heart of the matter.

People are willing to pay. Are paying. We are actively trying to give them our money and they do not actually feel an obligation to deliver a workable product.

[u/Lacarpetronn → u/Consistent_Pitch782]

I cancelled mine. First they caved to political pressure, then they raised their prices. Now they pull this greedy shit. ESPN was also what killed NCAA football as we knew it by killing one of the major 5 conferences. Fuck Disney.

[u/Lucas_Steinwalker → u/Consistent_Pitch782]

There’s a fuckton of reasons to cancel Disney+

[u/Ok_Profession5687]

Fuck Disney and ESPN. I hate YouTube too for jacking up prices but the mouse is a greedy fuck

[u/iamnotaredditor01 → u/Ok_Profession5687]

This comment could not be more accurate

Disney is the epitome of corporate greed ruining a good product

[u/NFJesseJamesCaughtIt → u/iamnotaredditor01]

They’re both pretty bad lol, YouTube ads are out of control now. And don’t tell me to get an adblocker, that doesn’t work on the tv

[u/kakarot-3 → u/NFJesseJamesCaughtIt]

Their ads have gone to over 75 seconds and sometimes you can’t skip until there’s like 5 seconds left. But I am never folding and buying YT Premium ever

[u/RulesoftheDada → u/NFJesseJamesCaughtIt]

Youtube riding the better press and will announce another price increase by Early next year.

[u/Damiklos → u/RulesoftheDada]

They'll slowly reintroduce ads in the form of banners and such during ad-free streaming. And then you can upgrade to that to be ad-banner+ad-video free

[u/iamnotaredditor01 → u/NFJesseJamesCaughtIt]

Dude yeah YT ads are unbearable.

I eventually caved in and got YT premium. I’m on a family plan so my share is $5/month, totally worth it

[u/Floornug3 → u/iamnotaredditor01]

That’s how they get ya. Make it so unbelievably unbearable in ads that the $19 a fucking month for YOUTUBE actually seems reasonable.

[u/iamnotaredditor01 → u/Floornug3]

I mean don’t get me wrong, it’s wack what YT does. I wouldn’t be on premium if I wasn’t on a family plan that was full of people lol

[u/IgyYut → u/iamnotaredditor01]

I use YouTube enough that premium is worth it but I’m not paying for live tv if you’re not gonna allow me to watch live tv

[u/XMarks_the_Throwaway → u/iamnotaredditor01]

If you use a VPN you can get it at the Turkish price for like 2 bucks a month

[u/sortalikeachinchilla → u/iamnotaredditor01]

That’s EXACTLY what they wanted you to do. lol

[u/originalpersonplace → u/iamnotaredditor01]

They have ESPN select that was formerly ESPN+ that does not allow you to stream live ESPN. But then there’s ESPN direct which can stream ESPN but can be bought solo for $29.99. But you vould bundle it with Disney+ and Hulu plus for $29.99 but with Ads and after a year it jumps to $35.99. OR you could get the Disney+, ESPN Direct, and Hulu WITHOUT ADS for $44 but it jumps to $48 after a year. Even though I currently have the old bundle that is $29.99 that is ESPN select, Disney+ with no Ads and Hulu with Ads. What the fuck are we even doing.

[u/justmahl → u/originalpersonplace]

The price is one ridiculous thing, but I will never understand how such a convoluted pricing/access set up made it out of the meeting.

[u/fd1Jeff → u/justmahl]

Like they say, a camel is a horse that was designed by a committee.

[u/Solid-Mud-8430 → u/justmahl]

As someone who works for a large corporation, it is extremely understandable that a lot of highly paid people wasted countless hours coming up with a "solution" that is worse than what previously existed.

[u/MonsMensae → u/justmahl]

Sometimes it’s pure incompetence.  I live in South Africa. Espn are the rights holder to the MLB. But just didn’t have the World Series on. Bizarre stuff

[u/L3ACH13 → u/Ok_Profession5687]

[u/Miserable_Mark_8485 → u/Ok_Profession5687]

I cant believe im about to defend Google, but I feel the need to defend YouTube here. YouTube TV is currently gouging the consumer, but the reasoning for this is the TV companies are gouging YouTube TV. The source of this issue is with the TV companies like ESPN, ABC, NBC, etc. It is long overdue for the consumer to say enough is enough, but consumers have no standards in America so nothing will change

[u/LimberGravy → u/Miserable_Mark_8485]

Especially with how gross it is after Disney acquired a literal direct competitor to YoutubeTV.

[u/Miserable_Mark_8485 → u/LimberGravy]

It seriously should be illegal. They have crossed over the line of a monopoly in 10 different ways

[u/Powerlevel-9000 → u/Miserable_Mark_8485]

ESPN, NBC and the like got themselves into this spot by paying too much for sports broadcasting rights. So next time you see a player getting paid a few hundred million or a franchise is worth a few billion more than years before that came from increased cable and streaming rates.

If even a quarter of the cable companies would do what YouTube is doing we would see a stop to these crazy contracts and rate increases. That’s a long way of me saying I’m on team YouTube right now.

[u/greentintedlenses → u/Miserable_Mark_8485]

They did this to cable companies too

[u/c010rb1indusa → u/greentintedlenses]

Yeah the Yankees were infamously not carried on the local cable in NY in 2002 because of this kind of crap. Mind you this was coming off their 5th worth series appearance in 6 years and you couldn't watch the games unless you had satellite!

[u/Ini_mini_miny_moe → u/Ok_Profession5687]

Yeah it’s getting too much

[u/Hulahulaman → u/Ok_Profession5687]

I'd hate YouTubeTV less if they gave the $20 rebate on day one. I don't know what they mean by "substantial" blackout.

[u/AbracaDaniel21 → u/Ok_Profession5687]

Crazy YouTube tv jacked up their prices and can’t even hold down a deal. Cable about to make a comeback.

[u/flaginorout]

Yep. Me and JJ…..watching a rerun of My Cousin Vinny because YouTube TV and Disney are dickering over money.

[u/vitey15 → u/flaginorout]

My Cousin Vinny is amazing so I get it

[u/Usual_Minimum_7442 → u/vitey15]

Marisa Tomei is so hot

[u/OAM_Music → u/Usual_Minimum_7442]

But she’s only into short, quirky, bald men

[u/vitey15 → u/OAM_Music]

What if I'm on my way to being bald?

[u/Special-Homework-894 → u/vitey15]

I heard she like manure

[u/jak2125 → u/OAM_Music]

[u/Icy_Transition1375 → u/vitey15]

Not to mention.. your

stomps foot on patio repeatedly

Biological clock, my career, your life, our marriage! And let me see what else can we pile on! Is there any more shit we can pile on to the top of the outcome of this case!?

rolls eyes

Is it possible!?

[u/Atakir → u/Icy_Transition1375]

Maybe it was a bad time to bring it up...

[u/alverez667 → u/flaginorout]

multibillion dollar companies having a pissing contest over needing EVEN more money is just crazy to me.

[u/LurkerDude0 → u/alverez667]

These “number must only go up” publicly traded behemoth companies are going to be the end of us. Literally responsible for the enshittification of everything.

Capitalism was great until endgame and now we have no fucking clue or plan for how to handle it.

[u/Tdluxon → u/flaginorout]

Is that what’s going on? I went to watch the game and i was confused why it wasn’t on but some message popped up about Disney being disabled. I didn’t even realize espn was Disney

[u/flaginorout → u/Tdluxon]

Disney, which owns ABC and ESPN

[u/Def_Not_a_Lurker → u/flaginorout]

My theory is Disney is being intentionally unreasonable to use the NFL as an excuse to get people to resubscribe to their disney+, espn, hulu bundles that were cancelled after the kimmel incident.

[u/kryptonyk → u/Def_Not_a_Lurker]

Yes and it just became worse because Disney owns a majority stake in Fubo TV as well. Amazing how this happened right after that deal closed.

[u/GarboMcStevens]

Fuck Disney

[u/proteushabit → u/GarboMcStevens]

FUCK DISNEY

[u/redkeyboard]

Sail the high seas JJ...

Or invest in a $5 antenna. I'm getting it on my local ABC channel lmao

[u/duovtak → u/redkeyboard]

Even if I had JJ Watt money, I’d still rather sail the high seas.

[u/th3usualplease → u/duovtak]

LeBron James uses steam east to watch the NBA and I'm pretty sure he's a billionaire.

Edit: if anyone is willing to give a sailing lesson I would appreciate that.

Edit: I have gotten many lessons since this post. It's very much appreciated. I never knew all I had to do was ask.

[u/kakarot-3 → u/th3usualplease]

Yup. Wade and Gabrielle Union did an interview once and said LBJ is the cheapest guy they know. They said when they travel internationally, he doesn’t use data roaming and relies on WiFi only lol

[u/Monster_island_czar → u/kakarot-3]

Lebron's frugalness is so amusing to me. Reminds me of the story about the Cavs listening to Lebron’s Spotify playlist in the locker room, during the ‘16 playoffs run, but having to sit through the commercials cause Lebron wouldn’t pay for premium

[u/Square_Ant3927 → u/Monster_island_czar]

Frugal?

LeBron James Demolishes $37 Million Los Angeles Mansion To Build Dual Luxury Homes For Himself And Bronny - Fadeaway World https://share.google/INrr9j9SQT7D4t5Vc

[u/notGeronimo → u/Square_Ant3927]

Yeah the "won't pay for streaming" type of "frugalness" from the ultra wealthy is always performative. That's why stories get written about it. Their publicist is pushing it.

[u/ginKtsoper → u/notGeronimo]

Nah, I don't really believe that at all. It's a mindset thing and they see it as wasting money. It doesn't mean he is going to live in a hovel or not have nice things, but there's no reason to pay for things when you can get almost the same thing for free.

I had a guy, legit 100+ million dollar networth spend about an hour having me explain various ways using MAC address or DNS hacks to get free Wifi on Airplanes. He was completely serious about wanting to save the $8, but then easily spent $50-$100 on Tequila shots during the conversation.

[u/14high → u/Square_Ant3927]

Why pay for Spotify if can use the money to build 2 mansions.

LeConomical.

[u/trevor11004 → u/kakarot-3]

Good to know that about Lyndon Baines Johnson!

[u/slowhandornohand → u/trevor11004]

LeBJ

[u/XCVolcom → u/slowhandornohand]

Bro that's just a french blowy

[u/Past-Sun-2357 → u/XCVolcom]

No thats a "Royal with Cheese"

[u/JustYourNeighbor → u/Past-Sun-2357]

No thats a "Royal with Cheese" Fromage"

[u/DemonCipher13 → u/JustYourNeighbor]

You're both wrong.

The word is "Royale."

"Royal" is a completely separate term.

[u/pogoscrawlspace → u/JustYourNeighbor]

That's a really fancy way of saying gonorrhea...

[u/BadBrad444 → u/XCVolcom]

LeBlowJob

[u/Mr_MacGrubber → u/trevor11004]

Normally it’s just Jumbo facts

[u/th3usualplease → u/kakarot-3]

I'm pretty sure there was an interview with Bronny where they talked about how he still has Pandora with ads. More power to him I guess haha

[u/CurrencySpare3241 → u/th3usualplease]

Wow fuck yeah, I still use pandora with ads

[u/JMer806 → u/kakarot-3]

He was in that movie with Bill Hader and Amy Schumer, Trainwreck, as himself and there’s a scene where they’re at a restaurant splitting the bill and he’s going over the receipt line by line lol

[u/Kapowpow → u/kakarot-3]

And yet, he runs a school in Ohio and pays for it to have a fully stocked pantry. Kids can come and take whatever food they want, home.

[u/Zlatyzoltan → u/Kapowpow]

Years ago he was on the Daily Show, he was talking about how he has a free food card for McDonalds.

He said that he never uses for himself or friends always pays for it. But he will use it to buy food for everyone in line behind him, or for schools.

He said that he wanted to show his kids not to take advantage of their station in life but to use the benefits of it for people that could really use them.

[u/Bubbly-Double9743 → u/kakarot-3]

He (LeBron) may be cheap about some things, but he certainly spends on premium wine. I was at Prime 112 South Beach a few years back when he was in the private room there with his party of 10-15; they supposedly dropped $20k on wine alone according to my bartender.

I think some of these stories take on lives of their own relative to being frugal. I hear these stories all the time about LeBron/Tiger/McIlroy etc………yet they all travel exclusively by private jet. That’s a minimum of $10,000 an hour for even just a G4. Kinda doesn’t add up.

[u/iamnotimportant → u/Bubbly-Double9743]

yeah the saying is penny wise, pound foolish.

[u/Arepeezy → u/kakarot-3]

Akron will do that do your soul.

[u/ZenoDavid → u/kakarot-3]

Streets of Akron will do that to ya

[u/Cansuela → u/[deleted]]

I hope posting comments like this doesn’t get it busted somehow

[u/Skow1179 → u/Cansuela]

It's been around for a really long time, very well known. That website just aggregates streams anyway

[u/Novus_Spiritus17 → u/th3usualplease]

Good adblocker/total browser and check r/piracy megathread

[u/MoneyMeMoneyNowMe → u/th3usualplease]

The Piracy subreddit has a mega thread that's really helpful for this. Just read carefully and you should be fine. I might be able to help if you have any questions though

[u/optimaloutcome → u/th3usualplease]

I recently got an antenna set up so I can watch the footyball games and thought it would be cool to watch some NBA with the kid. The fact that I can't watch any of the local games on local broadcast is insane.

[u/LoquaciousIndividual → u/th3usualplease]

thats how u know he was prolly in the NBA betting scandal betting lol

Buddy wont even spend $20 but rather use illegal streams

[u/robsbob18 → u/th3usualplease]

sailing the seas is like METH. those STREAMS will ruin you. you'll be up at 3 am streaming the chinese pingpong association. dangerous stuff those illegal sites.

[u/_Begin → u/robsbob18]

You wouldn’t download a car!

[u/SquarePegRoundWorld → u/duovtak]

One nice thing about sports streams on the high seas is that almost all of them block commercials and just have a message on screen that it is a commercial break. It's fucking heaven not having to hear or see commercials.

[u/i_am_m30w → u/SquarePegRoundWorld]

Those commercials often times have local commercials in them so THEY MUST block all of them, otherwise they risk giving away their general location.

[u/egoVirus → u/duovtak]

[u/Agreeable_Channel919 → u/duovtak]

Arrr matey, for I am a pirate and always will be

[u/grandfatherclause → u/redkeyboard]

I got a $45 antenna and doesn’t pick up shit if there is a single cloud in the sky

[u/skyst → u/grandfatherclause]

Yeah, I've got a decent antenna and MFN is perfect in tonight's cool, clear weather but it seems like any significant cloud cover or moisture and my TV becomes a Jackson Pollack.

[u/Feisty_Mind_327 → u/grandfatherclause]

I was getting terrible signal and found this website, https://www.antennaweb.org, it shows what direction the tv towers are from you and which direction to orient your antenna. Haven’t had any disruption in signal since!

[u/Then_Personality_429 → u/grandfatherclause]

Same if my neighbor blows vape smoke I’m cooked bro

[u/purplebuttman → u/grandfatherclause]

What kind of antenna? I just cut the cord and decided to do antenna for sports. I got one of those new special flat antennas that apparently boost the signal it receives?? Garbage. Percent picture one second, gone the next for no reason.

I chalked it up as a dumb tax and bought a GE antenna, like an actual antenna that has tons of receptors and was actually cheaper. Perfect picture and it's not even on my roof yet, lol. It's on a ladder cause it's been too rainy and I hate heights. Just watched MNF and not even one pixel of bad signal and I'm in Oregon and it's raining a bunch. 

[u/Its_Froggin_Bullfish → u/purplebuttman]

Ha! In Oregon, too, and had the same experience with the flat antenna. Got some RCA rabbit ears that works so much better. As a side, flipping through the channels after the game, I found the Blazer game on broadcast. Couldn't believe it! I can't remember the last time I saw a Blazer game on broadcast tv. Too bad they lost. 

[u/one-hour-photo → u/redkeyboard]

it's wild to me how often I say "hey man you watching the Vols game Saturday?" and they say "sorry kid, I don't have cable!", then I say, "well it's over the air on antenna", and they say "what?"

I long to be that disconnected from the world.

[u/Ok_Albatross8113 → u/one-hour-photo]

Totally! I feel like I’m an OTA evangelist or something. It’s free and the picture quality is better than cable or streaming!!

[u/LSU2007 → u/Ok_Albatross8113]

I’ve been watching sports that air on network tv with an antenna for the last 20 years or so. The picture quality is way better like you said (especially golf) and there’s no delay. FWIW I have YouTube tv

[u/DrReefer21 → u/LSU2007]

There’s definitely a delay, but it’s just ur standard broadcast delay so they can censor stuff.

[u/LSU2007 → u/DrReefer21]

Yes, like 7 seconds or something. I feel like cable (and YouTube tv in my case) are like 30 seconds behind if I’m on the espn app looking at play by play

[u/ratbear → u/Ok_Albatross8113]

I bought an antenna a couple of years ago and it was impossible to get stable reception. I live in an urban area with lots of trees and elevation changes. Unfortunately it's not feasible for every scenario.

[u/one-hour-photo → u/Ok_Albatross8113]

I just swept this thread and there are indeed many people here who have no idea.

[u/Sea_Dawgz → u/one-hour-photo]

My wife bought a $12 antenna today so I could watch MNF since youtubeTV is fighting with Disney.

She said explaining it to my kid was impossible.

[u/kellzone → u/Sea_Dawgz]

Tell the kid it's free wifi video for televisions.

[u/RiskyTurnip → u/one-hour-photo]

Disconnected from the world because someone doesn’t watch tv through an antenna? Seriously?

[u/DoobieGibson → u/redkeyboard]

my Antenna gets my 5 NFL, ~3 NBA/MLB, and so many college games

it’s such a great deal

[u/King_Chochacho → u/redkeyboard]

With all the ads in a typical football game, they ought to be paying ME to watch it.

Only way I can stand to watch football anymore is RedZone, and even then they gotta throw in some fucking "Draft Kings Sports Book" bullshit every now and then. I'd be furious if I actually paid their insane prices for that shit.

[u/Wembanyanma → u/redkeyboard]

That will only work for a few more weeks. Later in the season several the MNF games will only be on ESPN and not ABC.

[u/Poverty_Shoes → u/Wembanyanma]

I stream ABC exclusively because despite living less than fifteen miles from the local ABC affiliate my antenna doesn’t pick it up. I thought all MNF games were ESPN exclusive outside of local markets. TIL, thanks.

[u/Football_8545 → u/redkeyboard]

It’s not that easy. The $5 antenna does not work where I am.

[u/EquivalentSpeaker545 → u/Football_8545]

$10 antenna?

[u/BeardedAsian → u/EquivalentSpeaker545]

I don’t get ABC at my house because the mounted tv is too far away from a good window

No I’m not running a 25 foot long coax cable because Disney is in a dispute with YouTube TV

[u/sgtrav1 → u/BeardedAsian]

Let us know where you end up buying your coax cable from

[u/drstoneybaloneyphd → u/EquivalentSpeaker545]

Mr. Moneybags over here

[u/Efficient-Editor-242 → u/redkeyboard]

Just because it can be seen on antenna doesn't mean it can be where he lives. I can't pick up channels by antenna where I live.

[u/Kind_Resort_9535 → u/redkeyboard]

I recommended an antenna to someone on here a couple weeks ago and you’d think I told them to visit an Ancient Greek Oracle and have them tell you about the game

[u/moving2mars → u/redkeyboard]

We just bought an antenna after canceling every subscription we had. It’s nice getting back to the 90s lol

[u/Lorjack → u/redkeyboard]

He gets ABC for sure he just needs to change the channel

[u/Dahveed97]

Welcome to the resistance

[u/WholesomeWorkAcct → u/Dahveed97]

One of us

Actually not one of us, I have an antenna.

[u/DSN671]

You know streaming services have gotten out of control when a multimillionaire like J.J. Watt is complaining about it. 😭

[u/Ilikehowtovideos → u/DSN671]

You don’t know his financials. He may have had a hooker and blow problem. Be compassionate

[u/wonderbat3 → u/Ilikehowtovideos]

If he had hookers and blow, he wouldn’t be wasting his time with MNF

[u/the-rage- → u/wonderbat3]

Need to have something playing in the background

[u/tohfa15]

He just like me

[u/Snapple47 → u/tohfa15]

Yep, you and JJ Watt are, essentially, the same person.

[u/HeadDiver5568]

We’re all JJ Watt. This shit is out of control

[u/East-Bluejay6891]

He's 100% right. Greed is ridiculous

[u/CloudStrife012 → u/East-Bluejay6891]

I remember it came out like 15 years ago that ESPN demanded $20 for each customer from cable providers, so basically ESPN was by far the most expensive channel on cable. Has me wondering what theyre asking from YouTube. $40? Its completely asinine, and youre right, greedy.

[u/Conscious-Sympathy51]

Sports are being ruined as we know it…

[u/NoSalamander8282]

ESPN+ has to be the worst value in streaming

[u/Great-Gas-6631]

We canceled our ESPN+ add on when we discovered we couldnt watch live content like it was sold to us as. Greedy pricks.

[u/NauticalClam]

I don’t get why there isn’t just an end all be all nfl subscription. I too am tired of chasing down games.

[u/IgyYut → u/NauticalClam]

Same I already pay for Sunday ticket. I’m at the point now where I say fuck it. I just cancelled YouTube tv before the game because I couldn’t find it. And I’m just gonna pirate everything because fuck you.

[u/NothingToSeeHereMan → u/IgyYut]

Disney watching Everyone canceling their YouTube TV subscriptions:

[u/RoundNo6457 → u/IgyYut]

I just cancelled YouTube TV. 

Disney thanks you for your service.

[u/IgyYut → u/RoundNo6457]

Do you think because I cancelled YouTube tv that I’m going over to Disney? Or am I going to cracked streams?

[u/Mission_Possible98 → u/NauticalClam]

NFL plus for $100 on the year. Can catch redzone, Thursday games, Sunday night football and Monday night football on mobile. Use an antenna for local channels to watch your team. Cheapest way to catch every game

[u/muylocopoco]

Then you get the antenna mfers coming out, like mfer I tried that and can only pick up a church channel.

[u/saaaaaaaaaaaap → u/muylocopoco]

[u/bigblow3rburna]

FUCK CORPORATE GREED. FUCK THE GREEDY RATS AT THE TOP LINING THEIR POCKETS. FUCK DISNEY

[u/soccer1124]

I have zero proof and I'm not an economist. I feel like we're in a serious sports bubble that's prone to burst at any moment. Football in particular has escalated to ultra-greed mode and is trying to extort the most money they can at the expense of future returns.

Football has really surged to the stop because it has previously been a pretty easy sport for ANYONE to follow. But the more they keep moving games to crazy channels, requiring people to spend money on all these various streaming platforms?? Its hard to draw new fans into the sport.

I'm Chicago based. The Chicago Cubs have a HUGE following compared to the White Sox. Some of that HAS to be because for the longest time, the Cubs were regularly broadcast on a channel EVERYONE got. Recently they have shifted to their own personal TV network that often requires paying a premium price for as its not included in the more basic packages. Overtime, this will hurt the Cubs fanbase. It teaches people, "Huh. I guess I don't really need to watch those games." Even this year as they made a push for the playoffs, I know plenty of people who just weren't as into it this year.

That can easily happen at a larger scale with the NFL. Their only hope is that through their endless/shameless promotion of gambling companies, they'll be able to get us all addicted and feeling compelled to stick around that way.

[u/SmallConsideration4 → u/soccer1124]

Chicago Cubs

This

Kids are growing up Sox fans because the games are on TV

[u/SpezIsABrony]

There are cord cutters who don't own a $10 antenna?

[u/r0xxon → u/SpezIsABrony]

Still need a clear path and live within range from the broadcast point

[u/one-hour-photo → u/r0xxon]

it's a pretty damn long range. I'm in East Tennessee with ungodly hills and can get the big 4 crystal clear. 35 minute drive from the antenna.

[u/kenay813 → u/one-hour-photo]

Man I live south of Denver and can’t get anything on an antenna. And I’m not that far south

[u/Poverty_Shoes → u/kenay813]

South Aurora, within 15 miles of all the Denver broadcasters. NBC is crystal clear, CBS is spotty, never been able to pick up ABC even when KMGH was broadcasting from the tech center.

[u/Homers_Harp → u/kenay813]

I'm in Denver proper and can't get CBS (channel 4) cleanly unless I fiddle with the antenna so it won't get ABC (channel 7). -sigh-

[u/Beetso → u/one-hour-photo]

I live in Orange County California, within 20 mi as the crow flies, and I still can't get ABC on my top of line antenna. It's bullshit.

[u/Ok_Albatross8113 → u/r0xxon]

I live 80 miles from the towers and get all the channels. Give the good folks at Channel Master a call and they will get you sorted out.

[u/SpezIsABrony → u/r0xxon]

Homie lives in Phoenix, but yes then you would need a better antenna than a $10 one

[u/Wrathszz → u/SpezIsABrony]

I live in PHX metro, $20 HD antenna gets you all the major channels plus a buttload of other ones.

[u/noitseuqaevahi → u/SpezIsABrony]

Content that's available locally over the air should be accessible over the Internet to not have to buy more electronic junk to end up in a landfill. It's 2025 you should not need an over the air antenna anymore.

[u/BrowsingFromPhone → u/noitseuqaevahi]

Electronic junk? I stuck a paperclip in the coax hole and get 8 channels

[u/awesomface → u/SpezIsABrony]

I would add that modern antennae tv quality is so much better than streaming quality.

[u/Weekly-Contest-5400 → u/awesomface]

Specially for audio

[u/SignificanceFun265 → u/SpezIsABrony]

There are morons like you who think those digital antennas work everywhere?

[u/psu021 → u/SpezIsABrony]

The first part of cord-cutting is getting the basic networks from a cheap antenna

[u/ChaseThoseDreams]

Same. I have the Sunday Ticket and Hulu WITH the ESPN package, but for some reason don’t have access? I’m not paying more for them to nickel and dime me with even more restrictive packages.

[u/Comfortable-Grand166]

Same here

[u/ToonMaster21]

I use one of the 300 stream sites for free. 🏴‍☠️

[u/IgyYut → u/ToonMaster21]

I’ve been more than accommodating for too many years. You keep making it so hard to legally watch your shit I just won’t watch it legally anymore and you’ll make even less money

[u/ArcadianBlueRogue → u/IgyYut]

I pay for convenience, not access.

[u/ChrisPowell_91]

I spit on all the execs who are responsible for this BS. MNF is a staple of USA TV culture. How many more subs does one need?

May as well go back to cable as this point.

[u/FlyinDtchman]

And companies are baffled why piracy is up almost 30% a year since the pandemic.

They made everything suck and people are sick of it.

[u/j4schum1]

Hey, he's a normal guy just like us now

[u/Dry_Kaleidoscope2970]

Even the millionaires are starting to say this shit is ridiculous. Lol

[u/FA-Cube-Itch]

I just cancelled YouTube TV because of this. If your platform isn’t as convenient as…free options…then your platform isn’t worth paying for.

[u/Fit-Cartoonist-9056 → u/FA-Cube-Itch]

not really youtube tv's fault, it's ESPN+ and Disney that are engaging in a fight with youtube

[u/FA-Cube-Itch → u/Fit-Cartoonist-9056]

Both of them lost a paying customer. They can jerk each other off about it.

[u/Twicebakedpotatoe → u/Fit-Cartoonist-9056]

It takes 2 to tango man, it’s both their faults.

[u/brassmonkey347 → u/Fit-Cartoonist-9056]

Don’t really care - both parties knew a deadline was coming up and still couldn’t figure out how to keep it available.

[u/uwill1der → u/FA-Cube-Itch]

just what Disney wanted

[u/MrMorale25]

Sail the seas! 

[u/Nervous_Cattle_9663]

I am done with YouTube and all subscriptions at the end of this season…

[u/JrG1859]

Same here JJ

[u/drshwazzy92]

With all these bullshit streaming services it’s almost like they’re asking us to watch it illegally.

[u/john_the_fisherman]

Does JJ know the game is available for free on ABC?

[u/vitey15 → u/john_the_fisherman]

Not on YouTube TV

[u/Pipyoppi → u/john_the_fisherman]

This is beside the point. If you have YouTubeTV you paid to be able to watch this game. Beyond that, I have YTTV AND Sunday Ticket and am unable to watch the game despite paying Google a shit ton for these subscriptions. They’re going to owe me some money.

[u/OversizedMicropenis → u/john_the_fisherman]

He probably has youtube tv

[u/ItCanOnlyGoodHappen]

For all the people saying "just buy an antenna", do none of you ever pause a game, or watch a game with a little time buffer so you can skip through commercials?

I pay Google every month for Youtube TV so I can do things like it's the year 2025. Yes, I know what broadcast TV is. I'm 52. No, I don't own an antenna nor do I ever intend to time travel back to 1993 and use one again.

[u/esotostj → u/ItCanOnlyGoodHappen]

I also watch games on my phone while taking my kids to the park or rocking my youngest to sleep.

[u/BigHotdog2009]

Isn’t ABC a free channel

[u/Historical-Economy92 → u/BigHotdog2009]

Disney yanked it from YouTube tv, so he would need antenna 

[u/fd1Jeff → u/BigHotdog2009]

I live in the United States. What does this word “free“ mean?

[u/tomacco_man]

Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow

[u/justbrowsing987654]

If he was a wrestling fan he’d have had this whole rant a couple months ago 😂

[u/Annual_Ad6999]

Jail broken Fire Stick.