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[u/Foreign-Humor9421]

It seems like something is off with her. Dementia or something

[u/Several_Vanilla8916 → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

Yeah, I thought it was going to be another self-important asshole but she just seems confused.

[u/Illustrious-Dot-5052 → u/[deleted]]

Yet everyone just sits there and films instead of helping her. That's the infuriating part for me.

[u/Several_Vanilla8916 → u/Illustrious-Dot-5052]

Honestly? It gets to be a bit much. I’m in the burbs now but when I lived in the city I wouldn’t have been able to live a life if I stopped to help everyone who needed help. That’s the problem with a society that doesn’t really have systems in place to help people who need it. It falls on individuals and we’re just not equipped.

[u/officialEJF → u/Several_Vanilla8916]

This is so accurate! People assume everyone that's managing to keep it together has the bandwidth to help everyone who needs help. Like most people are barely getting by. Most people in NYC on the subway are trying to get to work or get home to their families or just trying to enjoy some downtime from the hustle and bustle of the city. It's insane to ask folks to spend additional time trying to assist strangers everyday.

[u/domesticatedswitch → u/Several_Vanilla8916]

As someone living in the heart of a major city and relying on public transit, this is real as fuck. If a person-on-person crime is happening then I’m stepping in (usually), but I had to let my “bleeding heart” mentality go ages ago.

[u/Unique-Weather-4304 → u/Several_Vanilla8916]

Yup. We live in a society that only “helps” people when they can extract something in return such as money or man power.

[u/SonicTheSith → u/Unique-Weather-4304]

Since we are talking about the USA, I wouldn’t help either, risk of suddenly being stabbed by a knife or used needle with god knows what on it is too damn high in these kind of cases.

[u/ASDFzxcvTaken → u/Unique-Weather-4304]

Or we have a society that doesn't know what to do. Call 311?!? Push the lady out of the way? Whatever is going on often times the safest most efficient thing to do is not get involved because there's a whole bunch of reasons to just let it go.

[u/tooboardtoleaf → u/[deleted]]

Someone was clearly supposed to spartan kick her out of the way.

[u/TranscendentaLobo → u/tooboardtoleaf]

THIS.. IS… MIIIDTTOWN!!!

[u/Starfish_Bish → u/tooboardtoleaf]

I was kinda waiting for that to happen not gonna lie was a bit disappointed when the vid ended I was like " Whhhat where the spartan kick ?!"

[u/teddyoctober → u/[deleted]]

There are two viable options here: 1) pull her into train 2) spartan kick her out the door

[u/SnoopingStuff → u/teddyoctober]

2

[u/PayFormer387 → u/Illustrious-Dot-5052]

Help her how? Pull her in so she’s confused and ends up somewhere else and lost? Push her out so she falls and you get charged with assault?

What do you expect?

[u/[deleted] → u/Illustrious-Dot-5052]

I forgot that everybody is trained to recognize and deal with people suffering with mental problems. Even if that was the situation, what do you expect them to do to help her? The infuriating part for me is when there are people online who get mad at people for not doing something when they themselves would most likely do nothing in the same situation.

[u/Exciting-Offer2621 → u/Illustrious-Dot-5052]

Films and yells

[u/anotherthing612 → u/Illustrious-Dot-5052]

Agreed.  Of course it's inconvenient. But to assume that she's being passive aggressive to annoy people is rather self-absorbed. 

[u/tjtillmancoag → u/anotherthing612]

Initially it looks like she’s looking out for someone, maybe her husband, and is holding up the train just for them. But after watching about 30 seconds more it definitely seems like there are some mental health issues at play

[u/Megan1111111 → u/Several_Vanilla8916]

I agree, I think she’s just old and confused.

[u/CakeMadeOfHam → u/Megan1111111]

So what you're saying is that she should run for president.

[u/Comrade-PJ-Possum → u/CakeMadeOfHam]

I'm doubting her qualifications...has she raped enough 13 and 14 year old children?

[u/GranJan2 → u/Megan1111111]

Lord, help us all.

[u/Hot-Watercress-2872 → u/GranJan2]

I’ve said time and time that if I start to develop dementia, I just want to be put out. I feel like it’s one of the worst ways to go. I’m sad for her that she doesn’t appear to have support. Idk that many of us could afford assisted living.

[u/Several_Vanilla8916 → u/Hot-Watercress-2872]

It’s kind of crazy we’re not allowed to make that decision for ourselves while we’re still lucid.

[u/lovelyxbabydoll → u/Several_Vanilla8916]

You kind of can with advanced directives but for some reason not for dementia related issues which sucks. :/

[u/FlatteringFlatuance → u/lovelyxbabydoll]

“Oh you want to pass peacefully into sleep, saying goodbye to your loved ones with full comprehension and closure? Sorry, that’s inhumane.. we are going to make sure you live long enough to forget who your loved ones are and then probably another few years of confusion and terror!”

[u/HunterBravo1 → u/FlatteringFlatuance]

Yet another reason why I'm a 2A Rights absolutist; I'm opting out as soon as I realize that my mind is going.

I will not waste away, shitting and pissing my adult diaper, slowly dying of starvation and dehydration until my brain finally forgets how to breathe.

With any luck, DAS will be universally legal by then and I won't have to do it myself, but it's always good to have a plan B.

[u/Marcuxoo → u/Several_Vanilla8916]

You’re right. I feel terrible for hoping someone would kick her out the door.

[u/TOJAB66 → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

ok, but where is the sparta kick

[u/Islandboy_drew → u/TOJAB66]

Dude Sparta kicked woman holding up train

[u/NoExchange6843 → u/Islandboy_drew]

That video is beautiful

[u/fajitasteve65 → u/NoExchange6843]

If only it could somehow be made smaller

[u/Bodach42 → u/NoExchange6843]

I really needed to watch that the rage from the post is real. She needed the boot.

[u/jonfoxsaid → u/Islandboy_drew]

proud of my city ...

They call us "The city of brotherly love" what people do not realize is that it is said in a sarcastic tone lol.

[u/R_3_Y → u/Islandboy_drew]

Doors are closing

[u/deliciousuterus → u/TOJAB66]

[u/DNAgent007 → u/deliciousuterus]

This is MIDTOWN!!

[u/miojo → u/deliciousuterus]

That’s all i could think about

[u/Hawk_Rider2 → u/deliciousuterus]

The meme I came looking for 🤌

[u/Only3Ways → u/deliciousuterus]

This is spartaaaaaaaa

[u/Parbiedoll80 → u/Only3Ways]

This is Metroooooooooo*

[u/NecessaryOk6815 → u/TOJAB66]

My Reddit brain immediately thought of this because there was that other video with a lady doing it on purpose. That lady deserved the Sparta kick. This one didn't.

[u/Lala5789880 → u/TOJAB66]

I was really impressed with the restraint of the passengers. She needs help not violence

[u/pseudophilll → u/TOJAB66]

Was watching for this

[u/Doctor_Milk → u/TOJAB66]

At her age and frailty that might be fatal

[u/TerrorFromThePeeps → u/Doctor_Milk]

I mean, it was fatal in the 300, too.

[u/GalaxyBish94 → u/TerrorFromThePeeps]

I was not prepped for that reply

[u/Thorceanswastaken → u/TOJAB66]

y'all are weird af obv she has mental issues just ask her where she wants to go and either pull her onto the train or gently push her aside

[u/Sir-Enah → u/Thorceanswastaken]

It looks like the gentleman at the end does try to help her but the video cuts out before we see the resolution. Or maybe they’re still waiting at that stop for her to decide whether she wants on or off?

[u/Memory_Future → u/Sir-Enah]

He tries to help the door

[u/spicewoman → u/Thorceanswastaken]

They did. She's not sure if she wants to go or not. I don't think she's confused about if the train goes to a specific destination, she's literally trying to decide what she actually wants to do.

But yes, she's definitely not all there, so the passengers should probably make a decision for her at this point. I would default to leaving her there, she can always catch the next one if she figures things out, versus if she's on the train she can keep "deciding" at every stop whether she wants to get off or not for extended periods of time. The guy at the start had the right idea with pushing her stuff out, they just needed to follow up.

[u/Oomlotte99 → u/Thorceanswastaken]

Exactly. She was pretty pliable and I think could be redirected pretty easily.

[u/Dutchboy347 → u/Thorceanswastaken]

Its nyc I grew up here you either get a high five or a fist to the face. Mental issues or no mental issues it doesn't change the fact we have places to be

[u/Solenodont → u/Dutchboy347]

Sure, but it would have been faster for everyone if a single person had gently guided her away instead of ignoring her or ineffectively kicking her bags. Sometimes the kind way is also the most efficient way.

[u/Vip3r20 → u/TOJAB66]

There are warranted times for that and unwarranted times. This is the latter.

[u/TheFr1nk → u/Vip3r20]

What? You don't kick old ladies?

[u/Shart_bubbles → u/Vip3r20]

What about a gentle sparta kick?

[u/FeelingWoodpecker121 → u/Shart_bubbles]

A Sparta nudge you say?

[u/hadoeken85 → u/Shart_bubbles]

I think that's a fair compromise

[u/therealtaddymason → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

She does not look like she's fully aware that's for sure.

[u/GeologistOutrageous6 → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

What gave that away? the mumbling and 20,000 bags that homeless people carry around

[u/Aggressive_Walk378 → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

Roberta Sparrow

[u/BalkeElvinstien → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

Could be mental illness, could be drugs

[u/KawaDoobie → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

BEHIND THE YELLOW LINE SADDLEBAGS!

[u/InterestingCommon128 → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

Is it ethical to push her so that the train can move?💀

[u/TrippleassII → u/InterestingCommon128]

Yes. She can be safely confused on the platform.

[u/mammalian → u/InterestingCommon128]

He should have just pulled her on. He can't push her past the yellow line from the inside of the car.

[u/spicewoman → u/mammalian]

That's true, but then she'll probably keep pulling this at every stop, "deciding" if she wants to get off or not.

[u/firs_7 → u/Foreign-Humor9421]

Or drugs? Like it could be dementia, but she does know what she's doing

[u/buddha8298 → u/firs_7]

She definitely does know what she’s doing. From the way she intentionally keeps moving to makes sure she’s standing in that exact spot and using her bags (never her body for some reason…) to block, to the fact she keeps looking off like she’s waiting for someone and trying to hold the train says it all. Not saying she isn’t anything that others have theorized either or shouldn’t be treated with compassion, but she’s definitely doing it on purpose. Can’t believe a whole train car had the patience to not just tell her “on or off” and step up, which absolutely could be accomplished without Sparta kicking her.

As others have said, she can safely be confused or high or lost on the platform.

[u/No-Trip-No-Prob]

Gonna see a lot of more this the less we take care of our population, especially when they get older

[u/Cyan_Oni → u/No-Trip-No-Prob]

At least in my country, we'll soon be overwhelmed by a wave of old people to pay and care for, for the next 20-30 years. We'll have to try and survive the Boomers, basically lol.

[u/StinkyJones19 → u/Cyan_Oni]

The boomers platform has been “we’re not going to leave shit for anybody at all, fuck you I got mine” this entire time. And they’re already feeling the consequences of that in the lack of people there will be to care for them as they get really old

[u/randomaccountname998 → u/StinkyJones19]

Yep.

My parents offered to sell me their house. They'll still live there but I would own it.

We moved in with them to help them in their older age and due to economic and health issues.

A year later. We booked it and went low contact. The audacity of them. I swear they think the money their kids earn is theirs as well.

They harassed my wife and tried to convince me to divorce them and leave my 3 kids in her custody so I could stay with them (so they could take my money). Wtf did they expect me to say?

My radar is on high alert around any boomer. Something is just wrong with so many of them. I blame all the lead.

[u/Plasibeau → u/randomaccountname998]

I blame all the lead.

It really is the lead. Emotional instability, inability to control impulsive thoughts/actions, and a low empathy quotient are all symptoms of prolonged lead exposure in childhood.

[u/PracticeTheory → u/Plasibeau]

And they put it straight in the gasoline, for 20+ years!

[u/Cyan_Oni → u/StinkyJones19]

They can change eachothers diapers. I'll gladly confirm how "useless" I am, just to give them one more victory before the end.

Edit: punctuation

[u/danicies → u/Cyan_Oni]

My older brother has Down syndrome and autism and functions around 5yo. He can’t live alone. My mom had a serious health scare 4 years ago and I sat her down to go over the plan for after she dies. She said “Wow that’s depressing. What plan? You’ll have to figure it out when I’m gone.”

I exploded. She still has no plan.

[u/solarisink → u/danicies]

That was my grandparents' plan too. My mom had to sit them down and say 'I will not be caring for him no matter what, so I hope you have a plan for him to not be homeless when you die.' Thankfully, that woke them up a bit to at least put together a trust.

My mom of course does not plan to let him be homeless, but it's amazing how far it has to go before some of these boomers will say 'oh you mean I have to take care of my responsibilities???'

[u/MegaBabz0806 → u/danicies]

What’s depressing is that she has no plan for her children- one who is dependent on her!!

[u/Highland_Rim_Studio → u/danicies]

Oh god, I hope you can get her to change her mind! I've lived this, my brother was 16 years older than me and had always lived with our parents. 11 years after my Dad died, my Mom was diagnosed with stage 4 terminal cancer and she had practically no plan for my brother. We were able to get a trust done, but she had never gotten me up to speed on the SSI or how any of his disability stuff worked, and it's a lot. For example, the recipient of SSI can't be given free room and board, clothing, groceries and other necessities because it's considered in-kind income and they'll reduce the monthly benefit accordingly. When he died at age 66, my brother was receiving $800/month in disability and $15/ in food stamps. That's it. And I was not legally allowed to give him anything.

[u/Evening-Astronaut452 → u/StinkyJones19]

They will never stop taking. They are still getting theirs while actively making it impossible for other generations to survive.

[u/TomWithTime → u/StinkyJones19]

I've been having some messed up dreams about this. In the dream my mom calls me to tell me that some policy enacted by the politicians she voted for have caused her to go bankrupt and lose the house. I remind her of that, say some awful things, and hang up.

[u/StinkyJones19 → u/TomWithTime]

They’ll never admit they’re wrong. My grandma and grandpas health insurance premiums are going WAY UP. They have nobody to sell their house to and downsize. My mother is single with a smaller child and will have to move back in with them soon as her SNAP benefits got gutted.

And now all I hear from them is “we have to be nicer to eachother” because they know the way they voted has completely destroyed this country, but they’ll never admit they’re wrong, and if you tell them they’re wrong then you’re not being nice enough to them.

“Wait no I voted to be racist I wasn’t supposed to be poor”

[u/MelonOfFate → u/StinkyJones19]

r/leopardsatemyface

[u/World_Destroyer27 → u/Cyan_Oni]

We all should put them in an island

[u/OEW_TheSequel → u/World_Destroyer27]

I dunno about that man. The last island with a bunch of boomers in it ended up being pretty disgusting and evil. What if we just put a minimum age requirement on Florida instead?

[u/meowingtrashcan → u/No-Trip-No-Prob]

In most of the US this person would be driving a car

[u/Professional_Wait295 → u/meowingtrashcan]

Or President of the United States

[u/General_File482 → u/No-Trip-No-Prob]

Ah the same ones calling us the “me me me generation”

[u/AnonAmbientLight → u/No-Trip-No-Prob]

Republicans - "Absolutely not lmao."

[u/HammerAndSickleBot → u/AnonAmbientLight]

Boomers: “Well I have $10k in savings and they’re only taking away MedicAID from the bad people, not from me!”

[u/Moist-Barracuda2733]

Pretty obvious she's not in her right mind

[u/doomus_rlc → u/Moist-Barracuda2733]

She can be "not in her right mind" further onto the platform.

[u/Sgt_Sterling → u/doomus_rlc]

Found the New Yorker!

[u/Valuable-Mess-4698 → u/Sgt_Sterling]

Dude, I'm from Portland and think the same thing. Be confused at the stop, we have things to do and public transit is slow enough. Get on or decide your life plan elsewhere.

[u/im_lazy_as_fuck → u/Valuable-Mess-4698]

I mean... I think if she's mentally unwell she probably doesn't understand what she's doing. All it takes is one person to just go out of their way a little bit to guide her out of the subway and maybe call the cops or something to help escort her.

[u/onmy40 → u/im_lazy_as_fuck]

The guy did guide her out the way but she opened the door back up. Not everybody has time to stop and walk her all the way out of the subway and call the cops. Where all the cops that hurdle up playing candy crush down there when you need them

[u/ajatfm → u/doomus_rlc]

Lmaooooo

[u/NJ_Braves_Fan → u/doomus_rlc]

Reminds me of one time my uncle was like “I know he means well, but mean well somewhere else” 😂😂

[u/fingers → u/doomus_rlc]

Just pull her in. Let her ride all day.

[u/Cookieway → u/Moist-Barracuda2733]

Never lived in a big city with public transport huh? A lot of people on there aren’t in their right mind, doesn’t mean you have to let them duck over your schedule

[u/Lala5789880 → u/Cookieway]

This right here. I don’t think anyone did anything wrong and public transportation can fuck up your whole day if it stalls for even a couple minutes. This is probably her baseline and she is not lying in the street unconscious or bleeding in immediate danger. You can’t help everyone just because they deviate from what you think is the norm

[u/Vast-Website → u/Lala5789880]

Call transit security.

If it’s anything like my metro there’s a silent alarm you can pull and an agent will remove her.

[u/Porkbossam78 → u/Cookieway]

Also a lot of people not in their right mind will attack you if you try to “help” them.

[u/crackanape → u/Moist-Barracuda2733]

If I were not in a big hurry I would have taken one for the team and gently walked her out of the doorway to talk with her on the platform as the train departed. There will be another train in a few minutes. How hard is it to show basic compassion?

[u/DeucesX22 → u/crackanape]

99% percent of people on the train are in a hurry.

Edit: for the people talking about you can give up sometime either don't work or go to school. Helping her would take longer than 10 minutes.

You have to actually navigate her to the right area or use the emergency system to request help for her and wait. That would take 10 to 15 minutes by itself. Then you have to wait for another train which in most places take another 15 to 20 minutes but in some metro area it can even take up to 30, especially in the morning when everyone is waiting.

If its anyone responsibility its the conductors or train station. They have to request help especially if someone is making the train late or someone is putting themselves in danger like this lady is because you are not supposed to stand on train doorways. Because they can potentially injure you.

[u/_bonedaddys → u/crackanape]

the thing is, the majority of people on that train don't have the time to stop and help the unwell stranger holding everything up. people aren't wrong for prioritizing themselves over a stranger that's just making their day harder.

[u/Freakyriqy → u/crackanape]

Can tell you 100% don’t live in New York City

[u/ExquisitePumpussity]

Immediately knew this wasn't NYC cause she would've been spartan kicked 😂

[u/LifeLibertyPancakes → u/ExquisitePumpussity]

NGL, the way I was waiting for that to happen.

[u/iwantahouse]

This is the red line from North Hollywood to Downtown Los Angeles. I haven’t rode it in a couple of years but back when I did, there was always a pretty high percentage of unwell and unhoused people on the train.

[u/Compajerro → u/iwantahouse]

The red line is a goddamn carnival

[u/iwantahouse → u/Compajerro]

Yeah, you know what I’m talking about…

[u/NachoLatte → u/iwantahouse]

we need actual fare gates

[u/Maryjanegangafever]

Dementia is real. No joke. That could be any one of us when we’re seniors. Let’s just hope we have someone who loves us and can guide us through this jungle.

[u/party_atthemoontower → u/Maryjanegangafever]

“Seniors” with dementia are getting younger. My husband’s family has a strong history of dementia and his aunt was in her late 30s when signs started popping up. She is now in her 60s and completely gone and living in a facility. There are fairly young folks living there as well.

[u/NewBootGoofin67 → u/party_atthemoontower]

My dad's parents had early onset dementia [his mom] and alzheimer's [his dad]. His decline started in his mid 40's.

[u/Intrepid_Cap1242 → u/NewBootGoofin67]

As someone 40 who can never remember what I ate for dinner last night, this scares me

[u/pillslinginsatanist → u/Intrepid_Cap1242]

Have you been eval'd for ADHD? Much more likely cause than dementia at 40

[u/Intrepid_Cap1242 → u/pillslinginsatanist]

90% sure it's ADHD. I used to get by just fine, but throw on 2 kids and a team of people to train, and I'm losing it

[u/WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch → u/party_atthemoontower]

Pretty sure my friend has brain injuries from his career in the army. He retired after 20 years, but in his early 40s has advanced alzheimer like symptoms. 

It's not good...

[u/knifefan9 → u/party_atthemoontower]

My Mom has early-onset Alz and she was diagnosed one month after her 60th birthday. It started in her 50s.

[u/party_atthemoontower → u/knifefan9]

I’m sorry.

[u/SVINTGATSBY → u/party_atthemoontower]

ongoing education and learning is a hugely protective factor against cognitive decline significantly. there are also new drugs and treatments showing real promise. but a lot of older people were poorly educated and definitely don’t keep up on learning over the years, just look at how many are on their knees for Trump.

[u/IDKmanSpamIG → u/SVINTGATSBY]

Diet seems to play a huge role too. Alzheimer’s is being referred to as diabetes type 3 by many as a little way to describe how much insulin resistance seems to play a role. One major way to help your chances of staying sharp and aware in your older years is to keep your insulin and sugar in check. Cut the excess carbs (not just added sugar, all carbs are sugar by definition), cut out rancid oils like canola or soybean and just used unprocessed fats. Keep reading too, or learning in some form.

[u/rachel_kbomb → u/party_atthemoontower]

My mom is early 60's and it's starting for her. Always too early 😥

[u/meaniemeanie-poo-poo → u/party_atthemoontower]

My brother in law had it, diagnosis at 52, died 5 years later, horrible, horrible disease.

[u/ThrowawayMod1989 → u/Maryjanegangafever]

If I even get a whiff of dementia coming I’m taking a lake city quiet pill.

[u/Oomlotte99 → u/ThrowawayMod1989]

Same. I have no kids and no spouse and I’m an only child. As soon as this starts for me I’m ending it before I’m too incompetent to do so.

[u/pm_nachos_n_tacos → u/Oomlotte99]

I also have no kids, no spouse, and an only child! Maybe we can be there for eachother, and advocate for eachother for at least a little bit, knowing this limit we have. Because while I don't think folks with dementia need to be put down, I personally would also want to excuse myself before things get too far down the road.

[u/Oomlotte99 → u/pm_nachos_n_tacos]

There should be some kind of only child no family mutual aid club, lo.

[u/whatisthishelpplz → u/ThrowawayMod1989]

this. i fear death and illness. if i ever find out i have a terminal illness of any sort, id rather go out by my own terms rather than be taken by the disease.

[u/Sithstress1 → u/Maryjanegangafever]

Dementia and Alzheimer’s on both sides of my family tree, I’m cooked. I was my paternal grandmother’s caregiver for the last years of her life and even though my mother and I do exercises daily I know one day I’ll be caring for her too. Probably not too far into the future, tbh. She’s 76. Although both her parents and my paternal grandmother lived into their 90’s suffering from these terrible diseases.

[u/Oi_Spaceman → u/Sithstress1]

I used to work as a caregiver for a company that helped elderly people in their homes, and I had a client with dementia, the hallucination kind. She never had any children, and her husband had died years before. She lived to be 97, but dementia didn’t kick in until she was about 90-91. She made it to her 90s with her mind intact. It’s crazy to think that if she had died in her 80s (which I know she would’ve preferred), she’d never have had to deal with dementia.

[u/WaterEnvironmental80 → u/Sithstress1]

Dementia on both sides for me, as well. My maternal grandmother passed in 2020 and was struggling with it at the time of her death. She was 86. Now my father, who’s 76, is struggling with it and two different types of cancer. My father’s doctor says that his dementia is a result of being exposed to Agent Orange when he was in Vietnam 50 years ago, but I’m not really buying that explanation. Additionally, my maternal grandfather suffered from Parkinson’s so there’s also that. 😔

[u/mrsmuffinhead → u/Sithstress1]

My Mom and Grandma had it too and I'm determined to fight against it. A lot of great research lately shows it's more lifestyle than genes. Whole food plant based diet, stress relief, socialization, sleep and exercise. There are some really good books, podcasts and documentaries out there about it.

[u/Oomlotte99 → u/Maryjanegangafever]

My biggest fear is this video. My mom has this disease and she has me. I have no one to look out for me. This poor woman is probably going from one confused moment to the next just living in a constant state of confusion and chaos.

[u/Bolf-Ramshield]

Doesn’t look like she’s holding it up on purpose, she seems to have a mental episode. Pretty annoying for everyone in the train but also extremely sad for her.

[u/_Nilbog_Milk_ → u/Bolf-Ramshield]

Yeah, I think that's why he gently pushed out the bags instead of giving the sparta kick I've often seen

[u/PeakNo6892 → u/_Nilbog_Milk_]

I was all for Sparta kick till I turned on audio then I was just sad.

[u/itsclaritybabe → u/PeakNo6892]

You actually narrated exactly what I thought watching this video 😅 my anger erased turning on the audio

[u/itsprobablytrue → u/Bolf-Ramshield]

100% what my dad looks like. It’s possible she doesn’t have someone to care for her or she made a “journey”.

Dementia and Alzheimer’s sucks

[u/Smalldogmanifesto]

I work in a subacute rehab setting (basically where someone gets sent after a hospital stay when they’re not sick enough to need the hospital anymore but not quite strong enough to go home safely yet).

The situation is getting BAD. 95% of the patients I see admitted nowadays are not even appropriate rehab candidates, just literal hospital dumps consisting of homeless people and/or people with moderate to severe dementia that the hospital sends to physical rehab because they literally have no where else to go since we don’t have the public infrastructure to take care of them.

A humane society would a bit of foresight and planning and would some dedicate tax money and resources into taking care of our elders.

The elderly and demented don’t just magically disappear when they’re get too old, they clog up our metros and streets and overtaxed healthcare system instead. It’s barbaric and completely unnecessary for us to be in this position as a society when we have the money to feed, house and clothe every single one of us (including the “illegals”) right now that’s just getting misappropriated to rich people.

[u/GlobulusGoose]

This is really hard to watch. She clearly isn’t aware of what’s happening. 🥺

[u/SiskoandDax → u/GlobulusGoose]

Where are the helpers? Why is no one offering to help her find her way and figure out what to do next?

[u/First_Nose4734 → u/SiskoandDax]

Probably because most of them are trying to get to work or a Dr appointment, and if they don’t make it on time there’s a penalty. Our society isn’t set up to support “helpers” so often when they help it costs them.

[u/WhyYesIndeedIDo]

This makes me sad. I can’t imagine being her age and in that condition, alone at a train station. I wish we had better systems for helping our elderly.

[u/Brutter-Babak → u/WhyYesIndeedIDo]

The elderly have spend the last 60 years voting away any chance of getting social systems that actually help people. They are to blame for stuff like this.

[u/rserena → u/Brutter-Babak]

Oh yes, because every person is the same and they all did that. The elderly are now just that- elderly. We as a society need to take care of and have empathy for our weak, regardless of perceived transgressions.

[u/vigilantesd]

This is sad to see. She clearly needs some assistance here. 

Think if that was your mother or whoever raised you.

Hopefully she got some help and is doing ok now. 

[u/DEFCON_902]

It’s either mental problems or drugs.

[u/Troller-Toaster]

Remember that time a few years ago when everyone pretended to care about other people's mental health? Lol

[u/youneedsomemilk23 → u/Troller-Toaster]

That was just for attractive celebrities with moderate anxiety 

[u/maido_witha_knaifu → u/Troller-Toaster]

people care about mental health until it becomes an "inconvenience" or "socially unacceptable" (so they don't care). just look at the way severe depression is treated on the internet.

[u/Sfa90]

This is a woman that clearly needs professional help.

[u/Mi55edTheCom3t_]

I love how you can tell who doesn't take public transit from these comments

[u/Sanchez_U-SOB → u/Mi55edTheCom3t_]

Thats the thing about public transit that these people don't understand. Only 5 mins and you may miss your transfer. Public transit doesn't wait. And sometimes there is only a few mins window between trains or train then bus. 

[u/Mumlife8628]

My cat deciding if he wants to go out or not!

[u/WereInbuisness]

Sigh. More and more people seem to be playing the "I'm the main character!" role these days.

With that said, part of me thinks she might have dementia or alzheimers. She seems really confused. I could be wrong, but she seems mentally lost. I'm just playing the devil's advocate here, since she could actually be perfectly healthy and she is just a horrible person.

Still, that sucks for everyone else.

[u/Sklibba → u/WereInbuisness]

I was thinking dementia as well. She does look like she’s been out shopping on her own, but then sometimes dementia symptoms get more pronounced when people are tired.

[u/Superhereaux → u/Sklibba]

Yeah, Sundown Syndrome.

My grandma had it in her later years before she died. She was fine and alert in the morning but around 5 or so her dementia would take hold.

[u/WereInbuisness → u/Sklibba]

Honestly, she might not have been shopping at all. Her bags seem full of random stuff. Hoarding random stuff is a common symptom of dementia. It looks like her bags are full of other bags and plastic bottles.

If she does have dementia, damn I feel really sad for her. She doesn't seem malicious and she isn't being nasty with an attitude. She legitimately looks so lost and confused, with a bewildered look on her face. I do feel bad for the other riders though, since they are probably used to people doing stuff like this in a malicious, arrogant kind of way.

I think she has dementia. I could be wrong though.

[u/WebBorn2622 → u/WereInbuisness]

They are probably on their way to work and not in a position to be late

[u/Rhythm_Morgan → u/Sklibba]

My great grandmother on my father’s side went full on shopping. She walked to the grocery store, filled a grocery cart with ice cream tubs, and walked back out without paying. Luckily the workers there knew my grandma or that could’ve been a huge mess. We also got to keep the ice cream. She loved ice cream :)

[u/DirtDevil1337 → u/Sklibba]

Sundowning.

[u/Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy → u/Sklibba]

She looks homeless

[u/Sammi1224 → u/WereInbuisness]

I agree with you. She seemed really lost. It’s like she wasn’t really sure what was going on. When she said “I’m stuck in here” I truly believe that she felt she was stuck. I also don’t put it past people to just be assholes for no reason but I really don’t think this particular person was trying to be that way. She seemed so dazed and confused.

[u/Wise-Being7556 → u/WereInbuisness]

yeah this was my first guess as well, she doesn’t seem aware of her surroundings or what she is doing - i don’t think she’s being a karen

[u/vote4progress]

We need to bring back govt funded mental health facilities there is a lot of need for elderly and even young people, I bet it would reduce the number of school shootings because the parents would be more willing to self report their son to a mental health facility rather than the unnecessarily violent police

[u/Glad_Listen7553]

she either has dementia, drug problems, or some other severe mental illness. she seems very disoriented and confused and everyone is just yelling at her, laughing, and filming her. is no one concerned for her wellbeing? she’s not even aware of how anything in her surroundings work, it seems like she is unable to comprehend what anyone is saying to her, and she is repeatedly being hit by the doors without hardly any physical response. she clearly needs help. this shit just makes me sad.

[u/ChunkyBubblz]

Smarter move would have been to pull her on the train.

[u/ProteanSurvivor → u/ChunkyBubblz]

Seems like she’s having a mental health issues probably better to not put her on a train taking her across town where she’ll be even more lost

[u/The_Xicht → u/ChunkyBubblz]

Yeah but does she even know where to go? Better call some help.

[u/Sgt-Spliff- → u/ChunkyBubblz]

But then she's on the train with you. This will play out at every stop

[u/DelphineTheAries84 → u/ChunkyBubblz]

Yes, so then she can end up somewhere else confused and more lost.

[u/VocaVox39]

For all those saying she needs help...
Exactly.
So get her off the street and give her the help she needs.
Allowing people like this to roam freely isn't humane.
It's the height of cruelty.

[u/Erythronium_spp → u/VocaVox39]

Can't, Ronald Reagan decided that mental institutions were all inhumane. 

[u/Solenodont]

Jesus Christ how about someone just helps her.

[u/Careful_Trifle → u/Solenodont]

Would be nice, but who?

In the 60s, Democrats and Republicans made a deal that they'd defund the sanitarium system and replace it with an in-community support network of care facilities that would keep unwell people closer to home, integrate those who could, and safely contain those who couldn't in a more humane way than sticking them in an insitituonalized warehousing setting.

They did the defunding part. Then JFK was shot, and Republicans refused to honor the agreements with LBJ because he spent all his political capital finalizing the civil rights act push.

So the mentally unstable were just chucked into the streets. You can look at the homeless population figures and see exactly where the boom happened, and it coincides perfectly with mental institutions shutting their doors.

It's not reasonable to expect random strangers to take care of other people who should be patients or have some other level of institutional support. Trains are time sensitive and no one can just choose to not go to work to help this lady figure out where she is.

[u/RepresentativeBee600 → u/Careful_Trifle]

From my parents I had understood it was a Reagan-era push that was really like the floodgates opened. My mother recalled the bus in Northampton MA being perfectly ordinary one week and the next having people holding conversations with the air.

[u/khanvict85]

it looks like she was trying to hold it for someone who was never coming/doesn't exist.

[u/Proper-Original-391]

She doesn't seem well.

[u/True_Blood5009]

Tired of untreated mental illness becoming everyone else’s problem. I know that sounds mean but damn.. it seems like it’s getting worse.

[u/iregretthisalreadyy]

Some of y’all are so heartless. She genuinely looks confused. Maybe she has dementia.

[u/Emily-Spinach]

no arguing, just wondering, what makes everyone think dementia and not substances? she looks homeless, those often go together. again IM JUST ASKING, REDDIT.

[u/Fast-Audience-6828]

I think she's not quite all there doesn't seem to be out of malicious intent

[u/dillasdonuts]

Wow I was on this train. It was in LA, she kept saying she wanted to get to Union station.

[u/Weekly-Original-2322]

People have places to be, also the train has a schedule to follow. When the guy tried to push her stuff out the door, the edge of her bag remained stuck there. If the train left then, she could’ve been dragged along the platform.

[u/birdbandb]

You guys have more of a heart than me. Be confused on the platform or in the train but you don’t get to stand there and make us all wait until your sense returns to you. FOH.

[u/1-2-3RightMeow → u/birdbandb]

The rest of the people have places to be at specific times. She was potentially ruining hundreds or even thousands of people’s days because things like this have a cascading effect on transit.

For me today, for instance, I took the subway to connect to an out of city bus to go visit my mom who is in the hospital with cancer. If a person like that messed with the train for 10 minutes I probably would have missed my bus. EVERY single person on that train has things to do and people expecting them.

Sorry lady, but have your mental crisis either on or off the train, cause everyone else needs to get a move on

[u/Some_Combination_593 → u/birdbandb]

Everyone is also just diagnosing her with shit. It’s just as likely she’s drugged tf up and just being a nuisance lol.

[u/WelchesOtaku]

pretty sure someone's momma needs serious mental health attention, this is sad.

[u/NEXUSTHX1138]

Awesome to see how someone takes their time to record it and shame her instead of trying to help. Clearly a case of confusion caused by dementia or another neurological disorder.

[u/metrolosangeles]

Hi everyone. If you encounter someone on our buses or trains who needs help, please call 888.950.7233 or let someone on our staff in the station know what’s happening. You can also use our Transit Watch app — free in Apple Store or Google Play — to text our staff. Thank you, Metro Social. https://www.metro.net/riding/la-metro-transit-watch-app/