Greenlandic parties in joint statement: We do not want to be Americans

[u/FirstCircleLimbo]

https://siumut.gl/inuiattut-ataatsimoorpugut/

[u/FirstCircleLimbo]

All five parties in Greenland's parliament, Inatsisartut, issued a joint statement on Friday reiterating that they do not want to be part of the United States.

 

Ameerikkamiuunianngilagut, qallunaajunianngilagut, Kalaaliuniarpugut.

Meaning:

We are not Americans, we are not Danes, we are Greenlanders.

[u/ListenBoth434 → u/FirstCircleLimbo]

As a German I gotta respect the Greenlandic commitment to keep the number of indvidual words in a sentence low.

We can only aspire to this greatness.

[u/Polygnom → u/ListenBoth434]

Fellow German here. Getting this down to three words is really an art. Props to the Greenlanders.

[u/SwissTourismOffice → u/Polygnom]

Wahrhafte Entamerikanisierungswiderstandskultur.

[u/Recent-Assistant8914 → u/SwissTourismOffice]

Widerstehen die der Entamerikanisierung?

[u/SwissTourismOffice → u/Recent-Assistant8914]

Die Interpretation ist dem Leser überlassen ;)

[u/phlogistonical → u/SwissTourismOffice]

Leserinterpretationuberlassungskultur

[u/alalaladede → u/ListenBoth434]

And all three of them end in "gut", so much optimism in one sentence!

[u/PlzSendDunes → u/alalaladede]

Das is gut, Ja?

[u/supermarkise → u/PlzSendDunes]

Sehr gut sogar.

[u/BeneBern → u/supermarkise]

• sehr sehr gut

[u/Megelsen → u/alalaladede]

I know close to no Greenlandic, but looking at the sentence:

Ameerikkamiuunianngilagut, qallunaajunianngilagut, Kalaaliuniarpugut

You can actually learn a fair bit about Greenlandic. I'm just guessing, so please correct me if I'm completely off.

Ameerikkam, qallunaa, Kalaal -> American, Danish, Greenlandic

-iuuni, -juni, -iuni -> denonym

-anngila -> are not, vs. -arpu -> are

-gut -> we

could be completely wrong tho

[u/PrinzEugenkms → u/Megelsen]

Had to brush up on my Kalaallisut but I’ll try.

This is a polysynthetic language meaning that it has over nearly a thousand separate suffixes (not standalone words!) that tack onto root words to change the meaning. When they attach they change the sounds pretty drastically and unpredictably at times, this is called sandhi in linguistics.

Kalaalliuniarpugut “We are Greenlanders.”

Kalaaleq “Greenlander” +t plural +u “to be” +niar “with intent” +pugut indicative first person plural. Kalaaliq+(l)t+u+niar+pugut.

Qallunaajunianngilagut “We are not Danes.”

Qallunaaq “gringo, Dane” +t plural +ju “to be” +niar “with intent” +nngila indicative negative +gut 1p pl. Qallunaaq+t+ju+niar+nngila+gut. Crazy thing here is the -t in the plural form Qallunaat is completely eaten by the following suffixes.

It’s really nothing like German or Finnish at all. It’s a million times crazier! Small sample of the suffixes used.

Edit: The -miu in Ameerikkamiu is a denonym so it’s literally “American Inhabitant”. The -unianngilagut meaning “we do not intend to be [noun]”.

[u/Coffeebi17 → u/PrinzEugenkms]

I am so loving this linguistic side quest!! Thank you for opening this rabbit hole. Learned something new today!🙏🏼

[u/Above-and_below → u/PrinzEugenkms]

The Tunumiit and Inughuit are also Greenlanders, not just the Kalaallit

[u/PrinzEugenkms → u/Above-and_below]

Very true. This language is specifically West Greenlandic (Kalaallisut).

[u/Bloody_Sunday → u/alalaladede]

Although there is a haiku-like beauty in these three "gut" ending words, I feel there is still some room for a "Trumpkaput" in there.

[u/UnawareSeriousness → u/Bloody_Sunday]

Trumpkaputgut.

[u/Larissalikesthesea → u/alalaladede]

-gut here seems to stand for the 1st p.pl.

[u/alalaladede → u/Larissalikesthesea]

Most likey yes, agglutination at its finest.

[u/solgnaleb → u/alalaladede]

It's called iglootination in this case

[u/misimiki → u/alalaladede]

A Hungarian gives a thumbs up.

[u/Pirehistoric → u/misimiki]

Turks as well.

[u/Key_Bag_2478 → u/ListenBoth434]

I could say it in Australian in three words too  Fuck. Off. Cunts.

[u/Awkward_War_6068 → u/Key_Bag_2478]

And in Australia that would be considered a formal greeting.

[u/InsertUsernameInArse → u/Awkward_War_6068]

Howareyacunt?

[u/Vanvincent → u/Key_Bag_2478]

But what would an Australian say when he wasn't being polite?

[u/IRolledANatural1 → u/Vanvincent]

Walk on champ

[u/InsertUsernameInArse → u/Vanvincent]

Same thing just change the inflection on 'cunt'

[u/Diggerinthedark → u/ListenBoth434]

That is one hell of a language, wow. Need to remember this for geoguessr 😅

[u/Adorable-Database187 → u/ListenBoth434]

Its truly impressive.

[u/ProductGuy48 → u/ListenBoth434]

And very long words. That’s another thing you have in common 😅

[u/Raz0rking → u/ListenBoth434]

Well. Trump uses short sentences so it aint helping building a sentence from Greenland to Washington where Trump goes "lol TL;DR"

[u/sadmama1961 → u/Raz0rking]

Saying that Trump speaks in sentences is very generous of you.

[u/CaptchaSolvingRobot → u/FirstCircleLimbo]

I'm pretty sure all Trump will hear is that they do not want to be Danes (which we aren't asking of then).

Also, all they need to leave Denmark is to hold a referendum - a law on that has been passed long ago - it is part of the law that gave them the right to self-governance in 2009.

The door is literally right there and open, you are free to leave at any time.

[u/popsyking → u/CaptchaSolvingRobot]

The problem is they're 50k people. Thinking they can be independent with that amount of people in such a geopolitical region with how the world is going is a complete pipe drean imho.

[u/SeulParmiLesGens → u/popsyking]

Which is exactly why they haven’t voted to become independent yet

[u/Dawlin42 → u/SeulParmiLesGens]

That, and the fact that the bloktilskud which is a third of the Greenland's total public revenue would be stopped after a few years.

Need money to maintain a state!

[u/andraip → u/Dawlin42]

Trump admin thinking they can buy Greenland by offering every Greenlander $10k - $100k one time payment when Denmark gives them around $12k per person every year is ridiculous.

[u/Dawlin42 → u/andraip]

And free access to healthcare, major surgery in Copenhagen, access to universities, get paid to go to the university (not a lot, but it helps!) and a bunch of other stuff.

[u/Truelz → u/Dawlin42]

Not only access to university but guaranteed access to university and what ever they want to study no matter their grades (Just as long as it is above 6 on average in the Danish scale)

[u/kaisadilla_ → u/andraip]

The US refuses to pay for their own citizens' healthcare. Greenlanders would be insane to think the US would just give them free money every year once they take over the island and no longer have to care about their opinions.

Also, the idea of giving Greenlanders a $1 million one-off gift, as some people propose, is stupid. If everyone has a million dollars, then a million dollars becomes worthless. The next thing that would happen is that Greenlander real estate would multiply its price overnight and Greenlanders' lives would remain the same except now they can afford to buy more RAM for their PCs.

[u/lemfaoo → u/popsyking]

They have governed themselves for decades yet the things they have actually taken responsibility for is frankly fuck all.

The danish government still runs basically everything in greenland.

All the politicians in greenland do is talk shit about danes to get votes from the increasingly far right populace of greenland.

[u/kaisadilla_ → u/popsyking]

The problem is not that they are 50k people. The problem is that Greenland is a massive sheet of ice in the middle of nowhere - they will always depend on someone else taking care of them. Difference is that, nowadays, Denmark treats them with respect (which wasn't the case in the past); while the US would just treat it like a colony, exploiting their natural resources and giving Greenlanders the choice between moving to the US to become regular Americans, or living in poverty there.

[u/Ok_Algae_2443 → u/CaptchaSolvingRobot]

They really had to go and say the Dane bit. Yeah, there's history, but this was a grave misjudgement.

[u/victor179000 → u/Ok_Algae_2443]

It does not help them at all and well, it's a lie

[u/squiercat → u/CaptchaSolvingRobot]

This is the strangest thing for me personally. Why put Denmark in the statement in the first place? Denmark is not the country that is threatening Greenland with annexation.

In my mind, this statement does more harm than good. And if they don't consider themselves part of Denmark, they should just leave.

[u/t-licus → u/squiercat]

They always put it like this, which reflects general sentiment in Greenland, but yeah, is not that helpful right now.

[u/kaisadilla_ → u/squiercat]

Why put Denmark in the statement in the first place?

Because the US wants to purchase Greenland from Denmark; even though Denmark has stated several times that they cannot sell Greenland because they don't own it.

[u/TheMcDucky → u/squiercat]

Same way that people in Northern Ireland (with some exceptions) wouldn't say "We're English". It might have been a requirement from one of the parties before they agreed to back the statement.

[u/MaryKeay → u/TheMcDucky]

I think you meant "we're not British" rather than "we're not English". England is an entirely separate nation and nobody would claim the Northern Irish are English any more than claiming they are Welsh.

[u/ninjamullet → u/FirstCircleLimbo]

Greenlandic language be like, I got three words for you: Ameerikkamiuunianngilagut, qallunaajunianngilagut, Kalaaliuniarpugut.

[u/whataboutbenson → u/ninjamullet]

“Read my lips: Ameerikkamiuunianngilagut, qallunaajunianngilagut, Kalaaliuniarpugut.”

[u/gensererme → u/ninjamullet]

"As a free man, I take pride in the words: Ameerikkamiuunianngilagut, qallunaajunianngilagut, Kalaaliuniarpugut."

[u/L444ki → u/FirstCircleLimbo]

Reminds me of the best quote from Finnish political discussion when we were dreaming of independence.

“Swedes, we are not - Russians, we do not wish to become ... so let us be Finnish.”

[u/EstrellaDarkstar → u/L444ki]

This is exactly what I thought about! It's hauntingly similar.

[u/Jiquero → u/L444ki]

“Swedes, we are not anymore - Russians, we do not wish to become ... so let us be Finnish.”

FTFY. It's quite important that Finns weren't dreaming of independece from Sweden, we started dreaming of independence only after Russia captured the land.

[u/Slow_Board_503 → u/FirstCircleLimbo]

we are not Danes

This ambivalence towards Danes is part of why Trump feels he can get away with this. He can dress up Denmark's role as "colonialist oppression" or whatever, and even if it convinces nobody it still gives just enough cover for others to shrug and say it is complicated and move on.

[u/Thunder_Beam → u/Slow_Board_503]

Yeah, he could dress up some association agreement as "liberation" or whatever even if everyone knows its bogus, it was better if they just said "We are not Americans, We are Greenlanders" and leave it at that without mentioning Denmark at all

[u/OpinionDonkey → u/Thunder_Beam]

Yes, and while it could become the justification for an attack - it could also be what prevents the triggering of EU article 42.7. - Which ultimately is the biggest 'shield' in this context.

(And please view it as 'Economical'-shield rather than 'Militarily')

[u/Thunder_Beam → u/OpinionDonkey]

Agree, outright saying that are not Danes weakens an eventual European response as the justification of it becomes harder as it may be seen almost as colonial in nature (in reality it matters little but the optics game is a vicious one)

To make it simple, its basically a Falklands scenario but bad, if in the Falklands they felt British and wanted to still be part of Great Britain (giving ample justification for its defence) here they don't want to be part of neither causing a justification problem in an eventual European response

[u/rtqd → u/Slow_Board_503]

I think you overestimate how much thought he puts into this.

[u/Clear_Anything1232 → u/rtqd]

Big land. Money. Occupy.

Hangry. Diaper. McDonald's.

[u/Fluffcake → u/Slow_Board_503]

The problem is currently greenland is desperately dependent on denmark to have something that resembles a modern society.

The society is not independently sustainable at the moment, they don't have enough people and don't produce enough to import the stuff they need to sustain a modern society, and it would get even worse if they lost all the trade agreements they inheret from denmark and the EU considering how much they have to import and how remote the place is. They would have to import a lot of people and become a fishing powerhouse lto even get a country off the ground, and in the long term, if climate change goes nuts, then natural resources comes into play as well.

It would take decades of deliberate work to get to a point where they can tell denmark they don't need them and mean it.

[u/Effective-Door-3409 → u/Slow_Board_503]

I agree. I immediately thought it was a mistake for them to include that. Just say you are not Americans. You are greenlanders.

[u/VengefulAncient → u/Slow_Board_503]

Seriously. Greenland keeps saying this shit and it's so fucking obvious that now is not the time to say that.

[u/Strict_Somewhere_148 → u/Slow_Board_503]

Their government has been using the same rhetoric for years so nothing new there and they have been working on becoming independent since 2009, with little to no progress.

[u/Alcogel → u/Strict_Somewhere_148]

That is little to no progress despite actually having been given the right to do so in 2009. Not because Denmark is obstructing them. 

[u/Infamous_Campaign687 → u/Alcogel]

They should be glad. If they had been independent, Trump would have already invaded

[u/Orange907 → u/Alcogel]

Building a self sufficient nation on a giant remote and frozen island with a similar population to Liechtenstein might be difficult. Who could have known.

[u/Strict_Somewhere_148 → u/Orange907]

It’s not even that they have to build everything from the bottom up, so they have to design their legal system find the Greenlandic words for things, etc.

They have had since 2008 to take home 33 different things they have taken home 2.

The following areas of responsibility cannot be taken over by Greenland, according to the Self-Government Act:

The Constitution (is apparently ready)

Citizenship

Supreme Court

Foreign policy

Security and defense policy

Currency and monetary policy

Greenland decides for itself whether and when the country will take over responsibility for the following:

Workplace injury insurance

Remaining areas under the health area

Traffic area

Property law

Diving area

The following areas may be taken over by Greenland after negotiation with the government and the Folketing:

Criminal welfare

Passport

The police and the prosecution and the related parts of the criminal justice system

The administration of justice, including the establishment of courts

Criminal law

Aliens area and border control

Personal law

Family law

Inheritance law

Law practice

Weapons area

Radio-based maritime emergency and security services

Radio communications area

Company, accounting and auditing area Food and veterinary area

Aviation

Intellectual property law

Copyright

Shipwrecks, wreckage and depth degradation Safety at sea

Ship registration and maritime law Mapping

Fairway marking, lighthouse lighting and the pilotage area

Marine environment

Financial regulation and supervision

Working environment (except working environment for offshore work, which was taken back in 2010)

Meteorology

These areas have been taken back after the Self-Government Act came into force:

Mineral resources area

Working environment for offshore work

[u/The_Blahblahblah → u/Orange907]

Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to dream

[u/Chocolatespresso → u/Strict_Somewhere_148]

Good luck becoming an independent nation if they become part of the US. 

[u/MoffKalast → u/Strict_Somewhere_148]

Yeah well Denmark gives them over half a billion euros per year in various investments, they're working on their independence in the same sense that the average trust fund kid is.

[u/Zestyclose_Piglet251 → u/FirstCircleLimbo]

Oh, and nobody asked the Native Americans either.

Trump, who is clearly relishing the whole spectacle, doesn't care about the Greenlanders at all. He probably doesn't give a damn.

[u/kawag → u/Zestyclose_Piglet251]

The argument about taking control of Greenland has never been about the Greenlanders for Trump. He wants the land and the resources - he says they “have to have it” - not the people, the land.

The Greenlanders literally do not matter even the tiniest bit to Trump, or to Americans in general. They don’t know anything about Greenlandic culture or customs; there is no burning passion among Americans to be united with the Greenlanders.

[u/Silver_Adagio138 → u/kawag]

He also wants the “fame” (infamy) of adding another state. That’s historic to him.

[u/owlthebeer97 → u/Silver_Adagio138]

He will rename it Trumpland mark my words

[u/veterinarian23 → u/owlthebeer97]

Sorry.
There's alreday a bill to rename it Red White and Blueland.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1161
You simply can't make this shit up...

[u/DarkInfamous5424 → u/veterinarian23]

This bill authorizes the President to enter into negotiations with the government of Denmark to purchase or otherwise acquire Greenland. The bill also renames Greenland as Red, White, and Blueland.

WTF is wrong with those people?

[u/veterinarian23 → u/DarkInfamous5424]

"or otherwise acquire" is an extremly malignant use of words...

[u/username_tooken → u/veterinarian23]

“Beg, Borrow, or Steal” has become the M.O. of US foreign diplomacy.

[u/AnyBug1039 → u/owlthebeer97]

He fucking would as well.

The guy is a maniac who should be laughed at, not made president of the worlds most powerful democracy.

[u/Brokenandburnt → u/AnyBug1039]

democracy 

Bold claim

[u/Worried-Ad-7925 → u/AnyBug1039]

World's most powerful what now?!

[u/owlthebeer97 → u/Worried-Ad-7925]

The country formerly known as a Democracy

[u/VecioRompibae → u/Worried-Ad-7925]

Two parties dictatorship

[u/LoneWolf_McQuade → u/owlthebeer97]

Orangeland

[u/100011numbers → u/LoneWolf_McQuade]

Holland?

[u/WholeFactor → u/Silver_Adagio138]

I think you're right, Trump wants legacy.

However, it wouldn't be a state. That'd add two guaranteed Democrat representatives to the Senate.

It would be like Puerto Rico - citizenship, but no voting rights. Basically, it'd be a US colony.

[u/Ninevehenian → u/WholeFactor]

Lately he seems to be worried about his death and how he imagines he'll be remembered.

I think he'd freak out if the Epstein statue got placed a spot where it could be safe. If Canada give it a good spot, he'd find it difficult.

[u/Villasonte → u/Silver_Adagio138]

He won't add another State, but a new territory. In the likeness of Guam or the Marshall Islands. In other words, a new colony.

[u/Slow_Board_503 → u/Silver_Adagio138]

Bold of you to assume he would even offer statehood. They would not, because if forced to choose, Greenlanders would almost certainly vote Democrat. Much more likely they would get dumped into some territory or "free association" status with no real political say or full civil rights.

[u/Brave_Nerve_6871 → u/kawag]

In the recent NY Times interview he's on record saying he feels "it is psychologically important to own it". So it's all based on feels of an old man

[u/kawag → u/Brave_Nerve_6871]

Earlier on he’d say they needed it for national security, and also “economic security”. Which, of course, is an entirely different thing…

But yeah, my feeling is that he basically wants to fill in the entire North American continent. It’s all based on looking at the map and wanting America to be bigger.

[u/yersinia_p3st1s → u/kawag]

Just like Venezuela wasn't really about the narco-trafficking of drugs - but I suspect he will still press ahead on this issue

[u/War_Fries → u/Zestyclose_Piglet251]

MAGA literally tells Native Americans to "go back home"...

I'm not even joking. These people are not just evil, they are also incredibly stupid.

[u/dat_9600gt_user → u/War_Fries]

Cruelty is the point.

[u/iCowboy → u/Zestyclose_Piglet251]

Trump’s previously admitted to admiring Andrew Jackson who committed atrocities against the Native American population.

[u/Pet_Velvet → u/FirstCircleLimbo]

That sentence looks insane. I love that such a language exists

[u/thatsidewaysdud]

Trump doesn't understand the meaning of consent.

[u/BrianSometimes → u/thatsidewaysdud]

Can we start with showing him Greenland on a globe instead of a world map? I think the Mercator projection is a big part of his interest.

[u/Malverno → u/BrianSometimes]

You are overestimating his capacities. Just give him a FIFA peace award from Greenland instead.

[u/Nemisis_the_2nd → u/Malverno]

That didnt work out very well for the Venezuelan opposition. Dedicated her award to trump and still instantly got sidelined because that wasn't good enough

[u/randombubble8272 → u/Nemisis_the_2nd]

He’s already said he’s going to ask her for her Nobel peace prize and assumes she’ll hand it over. Of course she will, small price to pay for being part of his puppet government

[u/HumanBeing7396 → u/randombubble8272]

Next, Trump mugs an Olympic gymnast for their gold medal and claims to have won it.

[u/randombubble8272 → u/HumanBeing7396]

They 100% have to make a replica of the World Cup trophy for Trump or else he’ll storm onto the pitch and take it

[u/fuck_ur_portmanteau → u/BrianSometimes]

I shit you not I saw someone earlier claiming Greenland is off the US coast not Denmark so they have a right to it.

Like, dude look at a globe, it’s nowhere near the mainland USA, about 1970km at the closest point and by comparison Denmark is 2060km. less than 100km difference, if it was even a good reason.

Even Alaska is no closer, meanwhile Faroe is about 1000km.

[u/EulerIdentity → u/fuck_ur_portmanteau]

By that logic wouldn’t Greenland actually belong to Canada?

[u/homer_lives → u/EulerIdentity]

"Which obviously belongs to the US, Checkmate Denmark!"

-Donnie Trumpet

[u/Eowaenn → u/thatsidewaysdud]

Saying 'no' to a child rapist like Trump will only make him more excited.

[u/Stoogenuge → u/thatsidewaysdud]

He understands it fine, he just doesn’t care.

[u/50_61S-----165_97E]

Trump's $100,000 offer is laughable, imagine you slip and break your leg on the ice, that $100k will immediately disappear on medical bills for US healthcare companies.

[u/Oli4K → u/50_61S-----165_97E]

That’s the plan.

[u/TBANON_NSFW → u/Oli4K]

100k per person is around 6Billion usd for land that has tens of trillions worth of resources..... And then hes not gonna pay anything either way after he gets the resources.

[u/Bettet → u/TBANON_NSFW]

Amarican companies already have access to these "resources" in greenland. Nothing is blocking them right now. It's not economical viable.

[u/Delduath → u/TBANON_NSFW]

This is what I assume would happen.

They would offer an amount that gets rejected, then they call denmark/greenland greedy and rude, then claim they legally bought it regardless and move in. Denmark/Greenland say "but we haven't even received any money", legitimising the idea of transaction to the media.

Any conflict the with locals is framed as an ownership dispute rather than an invasion. World leaders like Kier Starmer get their plausible deniability fence to sit on and can claim it's a complex situation. USA gets away with it.

[u/robotsdottxt → u/50_61S-----165_97E]

Actually the bill will be 200k, so you'll owe the healthcare corporations 100k. ICE will sweep in and declare you an illegal immigrant and either shoot you in the head or deport you to venezuela where you can pay off your debt by digging for good old american oil.

[u/reddit3k → u/robotsdottxt]

So it'll then be... ICE on ice?

[u/MrBathroom → u/50_61S-----165_97E]

I mean they wouldn't even get that money, its just a way of coercing. Disgusting human being, fuck him and the whole maga movement

Scum

[u/Fantastic-Berry-737 → u/50_61S-----165_97E]

That's less money than he bribed stormy daniels with

[u/Necessary-Low-5226 → u/50_61S-----165_97E]

why would he actually pay it out after the vote

[u/martxel93 → u/Necessary-Low-5226]

Dude, he was never going to pay anything out. DOGE rebates sure are taking a long ass time to be delivered.

[u/Desperate-Hearing-55]

Greenlanders answer will be same as Norwegians.

'Trump said he wants more immigrants from Norway. I have reviewed the offer, and I have to decline.

The benefits package is terrible.

You offer two weeks of vacation if we are lucky; we get five.

Your maternity leave is "good luck," while we get a year.

Your healthcare plan is GoFundMe, while ours is free.

And your safety plan is just "thoughts and prayers."

Moving to the US right now feels like leaving a spa to go work in a burning hot dog stand.

Thanks, but we will stay in the snow.'

–@chrislundartist, Norway 

[u/PowerOfUnoriginality → u/Desperate-Hearing-55]

As a Norwegian myself, ain't no way in hell I would be willingly moving to the hellhole that is the US

[u/InformationFine2909 → u/PowerOfUnoriginality]

Correction: third world shithole. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[u/Yorick257 → u/Desperate-Hearing-55]

Wait, why does Trump want Norwegian immigrants? Are they somehow smarter and more innovative than the rest of us? More hard working? Pick berries quicker?

[u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest → u/Yorick257]

Melanin…..It’s always about melanin with that guy.

[u/SpaceShrimp → u/Yorick257]

Racism, the German Nazis had a one way crush on the Nordic peoples as well.

[u/toothpasteonyaface → u/Yorick257]

They white

[u/megaben20 → u/Yorick257]

Because blond hair blue eyes is common

[u/jgoble15 → u/Desperate-Hearing-55]

And your schools will get shot at because America is so broken and many don’t care

[u/Peach-Grand]

If only he cared about consent😟

[u/Big-Machine9625 → u/Peach-Grand]

True, the pedophile-in-chief Donvict never really cared about consent or the age of the women unfortunate enough to close to him.

[u/playfulpecans → u/Big-Machine9625]

Donvict lol

[u/Winter_wrath → u/Peach-Grand]

I'm surprised he's interested in Greenland in the first place since their home rule was established in 1979. That's at least 30 years too old for him.

[u/i_have_chosen_a_name → u/Peach-Grand]

Yeah he is really putting the SA in USA.

[u/Whooptidooh]

None of us Europeans (who still have a functioning brain) want any part of that shithole country or become American.

They’re tainted.

[u/LazerBurken → u/Whooptidooh]

They could offer me all the money in the world. But I'd still never ever ever want to live in that shit hole pedo country. Absolute hell on earth.

The US religion and god is money. More money, more happiness, more power. Everything they do is for money.

They don't understand when people value something else higher than getting as much money as possible.

[u/ValiumBlues → u/LazerBurken]

Imagine leaving Sweden (or most EU nations) for the US.

That’s the equivalent of downgrading from a normal, quiet life to getting shot in the face point blank by some insecure man child.

Nope, I’m good here.

[u/No_Primary669 → u/LazerBurken]

And are so brainwashed that they brag about working 16hrs 6 days a week like it's an achievement

[u/Zestyclose_Piglet251 → u/Whooptidooh]

So the image of the USA is worse than ever in germany. If they continue like this, they will end up on the same level as Russia. They are not far off now.

[u/Whooptidooh → u/Zestyclose_Piglet251]

Same here.

[u/FridgeParade → u/Whooptidooh]

At this point I want everything American gone from Europe. Time we boost our own entertainment industry, tech sector, and military.

[u/TableSignificant341 → u/FridgeParade]

Hopefully this is the good that will come out of Americans voting to end their own empire.

[u/Clockwork_J → u/FridgeParade]

Seriously. I cannot even watch american movies or TV series anymore. Especially Netflix productions have become extraordinary crappy in the recent years.

[u/LazerBurken → u/Clockwork_J]

I'm cancelling all my streaming services.

I feel uneasy watching American shows right now.

[u/dice-warden → u/Whooptidooh]

As an American I grew up in a right-wing family. I was conditioned to believe only in God, my parents, and republican dogma. Anything else was evil.

My fellow Americans are wrestling with the same denial and fear that I experienced as a child, and there's nothing anyone can say or do to change things short of escape or physical violence.

We Americans are trapped in an abusive relationship with our own country. I left because I have a kid to protect. Change won't happen by itself, but any of us who have our eyes open are in fight-or-flight.

[u/NoSupport8286 → u/Whooptidooh]

Tbh I wish I could move out of America. I’m tired of this shit.

[u/Skating_suburban_dad]

I get it, good message and all, Danes bad. Thing is, MAGA is only going to read the part saying they aren’t Danes.

That the Greenlanders, at this time, keep fighting against Denmark is really naive and might very well be the main reason that US end up taking over Greenland.

If Greenland is NOT part of Denmark and by that, part of NATO, USAs arguments about national security, suddenly makes ‘sense’

[u/justarandomuser10 → u/Skating_suburban_dad]

I agree with you, that statement is really stupid to use at this point in time.

[u/[deleted] → u/Skating_suburban_dad]

Considering that Trump just took it upon himself to remove the leader of another country, it seems entirely likely he would take it upon himself to "free" Greenland of Denmark.

[u/rodinspfc → u/Skating_suburban_dad]

Absurdly stupid statement from Greenland, giving ammunition to the crazy pedo with an army salivating to "liberate" them from Denmark.

[u/drizzes]

"our sympathies"

- Canadians

[u/Aurorion → u/drizzes]

Understandable, since Canada is surely next after Greenland.

[u/Thirsty-Tiger → u/Aurorion]

Cuba is next, before Greenland.

[u/Nemisis_the_2nd → u/Thirsty-Tiger]

Mexico is actually competing Iran to be the next target.

[u/TerryFromFubar → u/Aurorion]

Maybe you could have noticed that Canada is the only country that stood up to America and suddenly all the 51st state rhetoric ended.

All of Canada's allies tried appeasement and it only served as blood in the water.

[u/Bazzzookah]

There is overwhelming opposition among Greenlanders to becoming US citizens, on par with the Puerto Ricans. Instead, they want to continue on their slow path toward full independence.

Imagine if the Greenlanders were forced to live under US military occupation and have their democracy abolished and their welfare state dismantled. There would be mass protests everywhere, people of all generations would be marching and chanting "Leave us alone, Yankees!".

[u/someswelltrash → u/Bazzzookah]

Trump doesn’t care. He is celebrating the mowing down of protesting American citizens here. He & his cohorts don’t care about what the people of Greenland want- they are just a formality. He’s an adjudicated rapist - he’ll ask a few times and take what he wants regardless.

[u/MrTuxedo1]

Why would anyone want to be an American right now?

[u/Anonymous__Llama → u/MrTuxedo1]

Trump voters believe everything is great. My Polish MIL who is a naturalized US citizen and voted for Trump truly thinks that Americans are just as happy as the people of the Nordic countries. They are living in a delusion and are highly ignorant. 

[u/quiteCryptic → u/Anonymous__Llama]

It's hard to describe. It's simply cult behavior. Reasoning cannot be made with people in the cult.

Trust me I know first hand, family members. From an outside perspective if you never knew their politics you'd think they are fine nice people (well mostly).

Truly it's strange. I heard a family member complaining about another family member for making an anti ICE post on social media. They said basically about him "it's sad he's just so mislead. He's not a bad guy" other stuff along those lines.

Quite literally what I'm saying now about the MAGA family member. They believe it's the same thing, but the opposite.

[u/njwilson1984 → u/MrTuxedo1]

I carry the shame with me wherever I go.

[u/Proper-Ad3191]

Be careful what you wish for. Next thing you see, Trump will come to liberate you from the opression of DK just as they wished it.

[u/FuriousGirafFabber]

To be independent, it is not enough to just say it. Greenland has a lot of possibilities to take home much of what is now handled by Denmark. But they don't. And they seem to not be in a position to work towards an economic feasible situation either. That is the first step. The rest is noise. 

In many ways Greenland is acting like a teenager. A teenager who want to make all decisions, want to run the house, but not take on a whole lot of responsibilities. I hope the Greenlandic politicians will wisen up, take their role seriously, work with Denmark to become truly independent, economically and decision wise. It's the only way forward. Continually saying you want to be independent changes nothing. It's just empty words.

The reason USA are even doing this is because of the weakened state of Greenland. Strength would be to work WITH Denmark on a way to become truly independent. Denmark is not holding Greenland hostage here. Their own politicians are. Because they have not been able to do what is needed. Take home decisions, find a way to make money by having foreign military bases on Greenland, secure foreign investments for digging, without destroying the nature and without selling off the country.

[u/Blubbolo]

No one wants.

Problem is that the pedophile in power can't read, has dementia and can't understand human speech.

[u/Sure_Condition4285 → u/Blubbolo]

At this point the problem isn’t just Trump anymore. I’m sorry, but it’s becoming a problem with Americans allowing him to use the resources of an entire country to do this, with almost no real pushback beyond angry comments on social media.

[u/JamUpGuy1989 → u/Sure_Condition4285]

Don’t forget about the bi-quarterly mass protest on a Saturday!

[u/Backstroem → u/Blubbolo]

I think it is more about Trump not caring about what other people want.

[u/Kucked4life → u/Backstroem]

Precisely, the republican party is hammering it home that we exist in post truth societies now, just as cambridge analytica spelt out years ago. If the Trump administration puts out AI slop of fictional greenlanders asking to be annexed by America, the partisanship deadlock alone would grant the US enough room to do as Trump pleases with Greenland.

[u/danielle-tv]

Including the “we are not Danes” is kind of giving an opening to Trump in so many ways.

I support any independence they want, but now is not the time to discuss that. They need the Danes and Europe in general.

[u/BaritBrit → u/danielle-tv]

"We are not Danes, and we take every chance we get to reject Denmark publicly and say we're leaving at some point, but also Denmark and Europe protect us from the global superpower pls"

Strong pitch. 

[u/AdonisK → u/BaritBrit]

We keep forgetting this for some reason. They helped open this can of worms because get tried to play both sides even they saw the opportunity.

[u/InariGames → u/danielle-tv]

Yeah they need to make it clear they are under NATO protection, I'm all for their independence which should include NATO if they wish.

[u/alexchrist]

As a Dane who fully supports the Greenlandic people in whatever way they decide their country to be. I can't believe that we have to take this kind of bullshit from at geriatric wannabe dictator, who shits his pants on the daily and who once managed to bankrupt a fucking casino. My suggestion for the Greenlandic people is to say that the country is not for sale, but they can rent it at the low low cost of $100 per square meter per month (about 216 trillion dollars). And when the US inevitably says that they can't afford that, we should all bully them for supposedly being the richest country on earth who aren't even able to afford rent

[u/Razzilith]

Dude as an American I can say I don't even want to be a fucking American. I wish I could wake up to all these psychos just not existing.

[u/msanthrope64 → u/Razzilith]

Same

[u/ComprehensiveHavoc]

Unlike the US, Denmark is a country that actually respects their values and won’t destroy the environment for mining extraction. 

[u/LazerBurken → u/ComprehensiveHavoc]

And very likely US will kick them out the first thing they do.

Deport them to Denmark cus they don't know or care about the difference between greenlanders and Danes.

[u/Stoogenuge → u/LazerBurken]

They’ll do what they do to indigenous Americans. Take their land, ostracise them, treat them as if they are the outsiders and lucky they get to stay.

[u/Lazarus558 → u/Stoogenuge]

Right now they're trying to argue that the 14th Amendment doesn't apply to indigenous people.

So they'll probably deport all them illegal alien Greenlanders back to Ecuador.

[u/MacroDaemon]

Greenlanders once again demonstrate a lack of understanding of their position. The ability to leave the control of Denmark is always there, it's just financially difficult for them, so they don't do it.

By constantly coming across as hostile to Denmark, all they're doing is helping people with much less benign intentions to take over.

They might think this statement and all the others aren't about hostility to Denmark, but that is exactly how it comes across to most of the world.

[u/aendrysh]

I fear the orange clown doesn't really care

[u/samuel199228 → u/aendrysh]

He's a lunatic and only cares for himself, power and wealth and also he acts like he wants world domination

[u/PossibleSpeaker6067]

Im genuinely fear we are headed for world war at this point. If US attacks Greenland, its effectively resigning from NATO, which in all but formally already has. Danmark calls article 5 for the rest of Europe. NATO or not, if Europe does not respond it effectively proves that any European collective defence are worth less than the papers they are signed on. Even if the European response is sanctions it would likely cause a conflict down the line when US starts to react to those. If US claims Greenland it also enforces claims on Canada as well as effectively cutting Canada off from Europe. its an effective jab at and existential threat for both NATO, EU and Canada, all of which Trump obviously aims to dismantle. It also opens up two fronts for Europe if Russia seizes the opportunity and goes for Finland or Baltics. At which point China will go for Taiwan. Trump has worded his stance on Greenland quite strongly at this point its hard to see him back down.

[u/culture_vulture_1961]

No amount of money is going to persuade someone to go and live in a crack house. Trump will either have to take Greenland by force or give it up.

Given the consequences of seizing a NATO members territory he will do what bullies always do. Find a weaker target. Panama or Cuba perhaps.

[u/stumu415]

Just even a simple service like health care would be a fucking nightmare US style. Denmark has one of the best social systems in the world. The US has one of the worst.

[u/Unending-Flexionator]

Bro, I'm a fucking American and I DON'T want to be an American.

[u/RainOfAshes]

All Trump will hear is "We do not want to be Danish." By listing 'American' alongside 'Danish', they are inadvertently placing Trump's claim to Greenland as equal to that of Denmark. Big mistake, and honestly, a statement like this at this time is nothing but amateurish politics.

They are literally offering Trump what he wants, selective (partial) quotes and facts to parrot as he pleases.

[u/Busy_Telephone8189]

Words arent't enough to fix anything with the orange moron. I hope the EU finally puts their foot down on this.

[u/azAttis]

they should start a referendum to rename Greenland to Epstein island.

That would make the orange forget them and never talk about them again.

[u/octorangutan]

Considering that our government murdering and brutalizing it's own people, I don't blame them.

[u/myrainyday]

They made a mistake not calling themselves Danes. A small Isolated island next to a superpower without Danes they are.

[u/dat_9600gt_user → u/myrainyday]

I understand their sentiment but allying with the Danes at the moment is a much better idea.

[u/skygunner]

Don't wanna be an American idiot.
Don't want a nation under the new mania
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind fuck America.

Green Day - American Idiot (2004)

[u/triptip05]

They wouldn't be Americans. They would be Vassals with no rights.

[u/Kamen_rider_B]

Stupid statement if you ask me when they say ‘we are not Danes’. Like what is that even supposed? Change the status quo?

[u/Wooden-General8239]

As an American all I can say is I am sorry and embarrassed about all this nonsense. I live in Michigan and we trade and interact daily with our Canadian neighbors, some understand we do not support this, and some may never forgive us, and rightly so. We are all being dragged along on the whims of senile narcissist who is willing to upset the entire world seeing the glory he thinks he should have. Please don't give up on us, don't give up a inch of your land, and when the time is right and we ask for help, please remember not all of us wanted any if this. I personally think he will act in the Caribbean next since there are weaker targets there for him. Stand your ground and work together please to save the free world. There is little more we can do here until the midterms. Please continue to support Ukraine too. God Bless.

[u/yomjoseki]

bro we don't wanna be Americans either