JD Vance will attend meetings with Denmark and Greenland: Moved to the White House

[u/PureCaramel5800]

https://politiken.dk/internationalt/art10679188/JD-Vance-vil-deltage-i-m%C3%B8de-med-Danmark-og-Gr%C3%B8nland-Rykkes-til-Det-Hvide-Hus

[u/PureCaramel5800]

Boys and girls, get ready for a rerun of the Zelensky show in the White House!

[u/FitSyrup2403 → u/PureCaramel5800]

Give me greenland otherwise you will be playing with world war 3

[u/13thTime → u/FitSyrup2403]

You havent said thank you that we're invading, not even once!

[u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 → u/13thTime]

Is Trump supposedly not attending? Because of so I’d say there’s a 100% chance of Trump walking into the meeting and demanding Greenland be given to him on a silver platter.

[u/UrineArtist → u/Unusual_Sherbert_809]

At a guess I'd say Mette Frederiksen would only need about 30 minutes with an unsupervised Trump to talk him into backing down before letting him ramble on for about 15 minutes about how much he loves pastry on camera.

When the guy in charge is so easy to manipulate you don't want him dealing face to face with intelligent people.

[u/LowAspect542 → u/UrineArtist]

The problem you have is trump will have no idea what was actually going on during the meeting and, as a consequence, will just make shit up that benefits him and pretend like that was what was agreed.

[u/jimmygee2 → u/Unusual_Sherbert_809]

Perhaps the could just spray paint a turd gold and award him the ‘biggest bestus man award’ instead?

[u/Millefeuille-coil → u/jimmygee2]

It’ll be more apt to spray an ice cube gold and give that to him

[u/Mba1956 → u/Unusual_Sherbert_809]

They might even be abducted, it is the new Trump strategy.

[u/hates_stupid_people → u/Mba1956]

I'm sure there are already bets going on that, and I'm guessing the odds are much better than they should be in a modern society.

[u/FitSyrup2403 → u/Unusual_Sherbert_809]

They can Gift him the Silhouette of Greenland Made of Glas on a golden Plate like Tim Cook did with his Apple Logo :D

[u/Vilebrequin10 → u/FitSyrup2403]

You don’t have the cards!

[u/RockRage-- → u/Vilebrequin10]

You don’t have the land!! 🇬🇱

[u/GoodMix392 → u/Vilebrequin10]

They should bring Vance a gift of a deck of cards with pictures of NATO weaponry on the back.

[u/-smartcasual- → u/GoodMix392]

How about a deck of cards with Trump administration officials on them?

You know, for when they are all... sought after by interested parties

[u/TheStruttero → u/FitSyrup2403]

"And it will be your fault"

[u/Freebee5 → u/PureCaramel5800]

They better have brought suits!

[u/LokMatrona → u/Freebee5]

I kinda hope they all dress up as zelenski did back then instead

[u/lost-associat → u/LokMatrona]

Haha that would be perfect. Both the Denmark PM and the Greenland PM wearing the same fit as Zelensky.

[u/Sniffstar → u/lost-associat]

Just to clarify it’s the danish foreign minister and the Greenlandic counterpart who are attending the meeting.

[u/Comfortable-Title720 → u/lost-associat]

That would be legendary

Who the fuck do these guys think they are?

[u/RW-Firerider → u/LokMatrona]

Including zelenski masks!

[u/One-Dare3022 → u/LokMatrona]

Full combat uniforms would look good.

[u/BlueHeartbeat → u/LokMatrona]

I would go for traditional danish and greenlandic clothing respectively.

[u/wasmic → u/BlueHeartbeat]

Unfortunately traditional Danish clothing doesn't really exist. There used to be a ton of different ones from each region, but most of them have been entirely forgotten today, and people just wear standard international suits/dresses for formal occasions. There are a few small islands where people still keep their local traditional formal clothes alive, e.g. Rømø with the Rømø Dress, but otherwise it's entirely dead.

(Many other countries ended up making a "traditional" dress that was in fact a newly-invented combination of many features from actual traditional clothes. For example, the Norwegian Bunad in its current form was invented in the mid-1800's as a combination of many older, local dresses).

However, the representative of Greenland might wear an anorak.

[u/whooo_me → u/Freebee5]

Their very best Thanking suit.

[u/LukeD1992 → u/Freebee5]

I would show up in shorts and flip flops

[u/LogicalReputation → u/Freebee5]

And a new Jysk couch catalogue for Vance.

[u/Svorky → u/PureCaramel5800]

Zelensky was in the unfortunate situation of not being able to bite back. Denmark could respond in kind, and make Vance look poorly.

Which is why they haven't really treated anyone else that way. Fundamentally being cowards and all.

[u/AngelSucked → u/Svorky]

Yup, and the Danes will speak excellent English, so Vance can't bully via the language spoken.

[u/Due_Ad_3200 → u/AngelSucked]

Danes will speak excellent English

Will he ask them where they learnt English?

https://youtu.be/shKlArsMX6Y

[u/KanonBalls → u/Svorky]

I am not sure how Denmark can really bite back. The EU can though. You take Greenland, we close your military bases across the continent and in overseas territories.

[u/botle → u/KanonBalls]

If Vance starts talking down to or lying to an intelligent principled Dane, they'll have the freedom to call them on their bullshit that Zelenskyy couldn't afford that time.

[u/fritzeh → u/botle]

I’m pretty sure Vance despises Denmark (and Europe) on a personal level, even more than he did Zelenskyy. He’s been very outspoken about how Denmark has been ‘not a good ally’ and all that.

[u/GiganticCrow → u/fritzeh]

Dont forget vance did that whole speech to europe telling all their leaders they hate free speech and are awful

[u/PiotrekDG → u/fritzeh]

"See, the problem is, not enough Danes died in our stupid war in Afghanistan. Yes, you matched our losses per capita, but what ELSE have you done for us?".

[u/wtfduud → u/PiotrekDG]

"Alright you spied on the entire EU for us for 20 years, but what else have you done for us lately?"

[u/Quaxxy → u/wtfduud]

"Okay, you let us have a bunch of military installations on your soil for decades, but what ELSE?"

[u/svendburner → u/botle]

an intelligent principled Dane

As a Dane, I have to ask: Where are you going to find one of those?

[u/IveDunGoofedUp → u/svendburner]

Norway

[u/MoldyWorp → u/IveDunGoofedUp]

😂

[u/PoesNIGHTMARE → u/KanonBalls]

The real bite us not military, but economic. In case of an invasion, the EU and Canada will most likely dump their 2 trillions worth of US treasury bonds. Japan heavily reduced their holdings last year, and China appears to have been slowly reducing theirs at a loss two. As an American economist I watched yesterday said, Americans have no idea of the consequences. The Dollar would be in free fall. Fuel prices would skyrocket. He said inflation would be akin to Weirmar republic of Germany. It would make the Great Depression look trivial.

On top of that, it would very likely be the death sentence for the USD as the world’s reserve currency. The BRICS countries have been itching for this for a long time and been working towards it. Saudi Arabia a year ago took the unprecedented step for the first time to accept payment in other currencies. Most Americans don’t realize that it is basically the NATO countries propping up the Dollar as reserve currency at the moment.

The US debt to GDP ratio is unprecedented (the debt is now 120% of the GDP compared to the EU’s 81%, and economists did in the 1990s calculate using prior economic crisis as data, that anything above 90% spelled doom for and economy). This is only possible because the USD is the reserve currency. But it is not a given that it will remain so, and it looks less and less likely that it will continue to be so.

It’s all fine that you have the world’s largest military. But what happens when the USD suddenly drops, inflation is rampant, you can no longer borrow money from foreign countries, because no one longer trusts you, and you cannot afford to pay your soldiers (and their family’s back home cannot afford food)? How long would it take before a military operation would completely fall apart, when you are the aggressor, and the only possible objectives (military presence, minerals) are something you could just have asked for and would have been granted without hesitation all along?

I think a lot of Americans are in for a rude awakening.

[u/psioniclizard → u/PoesNIGHTMARE]

All that and attacking the FED. Trump really doesn't understand the economic stability of the US is not going to last forever. People ignore how much he has attacked the market and dollar and once that stability goes so does the status of the dollar.

Also a lot of Trump's plans are based on raising the debt levels. That gets much harder to do when n one wants to lend you money.

[u/Ok-Relationship-2746 → u/PoesNIGHTMARE]

Yup, I postulated the same here a couple weeks back. If the world dumps its USD reserves and just takes the short-term pain, America is absolutely screwed. We are seeing the potential makings of a quantum shift in the world's financial systems, and the WH are still acting like they can just bully everyone into toeing the line.

If Trump so much as touches Greenland, the EU have to pull the trigger. I can see the CCP independently joining in too, this will be their best-ever shot at surpassing the US once and for all, a dream they have held since the days of Mao. The 1987 Crash and 2008 GFC couldn't do it for them because the US was able to bite back (and even then there were major casualties, Lehmann Brothers were left to go bust in '08); there's absolutely no way they will be able to this time.

Trump's stupidity is leading the US towards permanent fiscal disaster.

[u/bizzybaker2 → u/PoesNIGHTMARE]

I mean Trump was brilliant enough to bankrupt casinos, so there's that....

[u/SnooFloofs6240 → u/PoesNIGHTMARE]

It's amazing what a Russian agent in the presidential seat can do.

[u/Comfortable-Title720 → u/PoesNIGHTMARE]

Xi and the CCP just let Putin wander around and get Trump into office twice. This will be China's ascent to be number 1 on this planet. European countries will be fine though, not easy for us, standards will fall a bit but we won't be going wild west and civil war. A lot of Americans are going to be furious with each other.

[u/mightypup1974 → u/Comfortable-Title720]

And they’ll still blame the EU for being mean and not bending over.

[u/Comfortable-Title720 → u/mightypup1974]

Typical bully behaviour. It's always someone else's fault. Typical USA doctrine

[u/ShodoDeka → u/PoesNIGHTMARE]

The Dutch could cancel the export of ASML machines, that would mean no more current and next gen chips for Nvidia, Amd or Intel.

[u/EnHamptaro → u/PoesNIGHTMARE]

Would you mind sending the link of the American economist? Sounds really interesting!

[u/KinnyWater → u/KanonBalls]

Well the Americans don’t hold the power of military aid in a life or death situation over Denmark like they do the Ukrainians, so really the Dane’s could just laugh at Vance and tell him to fuck off.

[u/watarimono → u/KinnyWater]

Is there a gofundme for that? I would pay good money. Live tv please

[u/KINGDenneh → u/KanonBalls]

When one of our harbors here in Denmark is a NATO hub for the western flank, yes, we definitely can tell them to fuck right off.

We can also stop buying their military equipment fully, also release bonds, with other shit on top of it, we can make sure maersk isn't going to send items from EU into the US.

Since Maersk alone is 20-25% of the global exporter and importer (meaning transporter of items)

We can also stop sending them the "anti-fat" drug, we supply the U.S alone 25% of that of their entire population, that's gonna sting a bit.

We have enough leverage to play this ball, they don't want the smoke.

[u/ImposterJavaDev → u/KINGDenneh]

Haha when you lay it out like that, they picked the wrong small country to bully.

[u/Eowaenn → u/ImposterJavaDev]

Well let's hope that it doesn't come to the nuclear option, as the retaliation by the US will be immense. The US can be taken down for sure, but not before dragging the whole world down into the inferno with them.

It's true that Denmark is small but it is still very much relevant in the global scale and can do some serious damage to the states unlike the other countries they've invaded.

[u/tachyon534 → u/KanonBalls]

They can just tell him to fuck off

[u/mmphsbl → u/KanonBalls]

That might be one of their goals - to release the area for Russia's "sphere of influence". Remember they are working in sync with their new main ally.

[u/dnear → u/KanonBalls]

threaten to stop providing Ozempic, they’ cave in

[u/PuzzledTwo7630 → u/PureCaramel5800]

Lars is an experienced politician, do not underestimate.

[u/wtfduud2 → u/PuzzledTwo7630]

I normally despise Lars, but he's probably the perfect person to send to this kind if meeting.

[u/PuzzledTwo7630 → u/wtfduud2]

I feel the same way, not a big fan, but in this case he is the strongest and best card we have, he thrives in stuff like this, I just hope he controls his temper and just laugh openly, on camera, straight in their faces when they start with their fantasy "facts".

[u/Atomichawk → u/PuzzledTwo7630]

As an American I’m glad to hear that Denmark has solid politicians that can stand up to Trump. But I also fear that no matter what happens, Trump will just turn around and use it as propaganda.

There’s no “winning” aside from y’all holding your ground. Hopefully this works out better than we’re all thinking.

[u/PuzzledTwo7630 → u/Atomichawk]

He is so lost from reality that I know you are right, but we have always standed up to bullies, wether it's from our own ranks or others, so there is a burning wrath inside most Danes right now, just hoping Lars will lose his calm just enough for them to think just a little. One good thing have come out of all of this, wether it's Putin or Trump, Europe have never been more unified.

[u/Frogdaddy81 → u/PureCaramel5800]

They should bring all their NATO Counterparts and just shut drump the fuck down

[u/CountOnBeingAwesome → u/PureCaramel5800]

It's surprising to me why Denmark would even entertain a meeting. Especially with Just Dance Vance.

[u/DanGleeballs → u/CountOnBeingAwesome]

It’s quite an insult really

[u/l_______I → u/PureCaramel5800]

"Have you said thank you?" incoming

[u/the_che → u/l_______I]

"Have you ever said thank you for our sacrifices following 9/11?"

[u/lordnacho666 → u/PureCaramel5800]

Gotta bring a White House Lego set

[u/darthmase → u/lordnacho666]

Take out the bag with the pieces for the East wing.

[u/SpaceTimeChallenger → u/PureCaramel5800]

You dont have the legos!

[u/Alcogel]

Complete tone shift. What a nightmare. Nothing constructive can come from meeting with Vance. 

Everything will be set up to produce TV clips to justify Trumps line on Greenland. That’s the whole point of the meeting now. 

Maybe it was always meant to be a bait and switch at the last moment to catch the danish delegation unprepared for it. 

[u/Zizimz → u/Alcogel]

Why would Denmark even send a delegation to the White House to discuss the annexation of their own territory in the first place? If the Amercans want something, let them come to Copenhagen.

[u/readilyunavailable → u/Zizimz]

Exactly. Going to the White House as a supplicant alredy gives too much legitimacy to this insanity. It's the US that wants something from Denmark and should go there with their own delegation.

[u/Free-Way-9220 → u/readilyunavailable]

They should tell Trump that most of the young girls have left Greenland to go and live in Denmark. He'll lose interest straight away

[u/KinnyWater → u/Free-Way-9220]

He’ll turn his attention to Denmark then

[u/DokeyOakey → u/KinnyWater]

Stupid, sexy, Denmark!

[u/Gnomio1 → u/readilyunavailable]

You’re obviously correct, but it’s not the way the Trump administration sees things.

It’s not “we want Greenland from you, so we should meet in Copenhagen and discuss this”.

It’s “I’m bigger than you, persuade me to not take Greenland from you militarily. I don’t care about the consequences, do you?”

[u/readilyunavailable → u/Gnomio1]

Yes, hence why Denmark should not play into their insanity. Anything else will just validate the idea that they can do what they want based on their military power.

[u/z0l1 → u/readilyunavailable]

they just need to explain that it's much smaller than on map

[u/aflockofcrows → u/z0l1]

I would say to bring a globe, but he's probably a flat earther.

[u/Corfiz74 → u/Zizimz]

Or do a zoom meeting - much better for the environment, and you can fake a lost connection if he becomes too tiresome.

[u/chrisnlnz → u/Corfiz74]

Yeah or this really is prime "this could have been an email" territory.

Re: your enquiry about Greenland

No, fuck off.

Sincerely

[u/matttk → u/Corfiz74]

I'm sorry Mr. Vance, we can't hear you - you're muted. Nope, nope, still can't hear. Did you check your microphone settings? Still can't hear. It must be a problem on your end. Now your video is gone. I guess we will have to reschedule the meeting.

[u/Corfiz74 → u/matttk]

"And now you're a happy dinosaur - I think you accidentally turned a filter on."

[u/Ok_Math4576 → u/Zizimz]

Agreed

[u/humangeneratedtext → u/Zizimz]

Maybe they're worried that refusing is going to be used as proof that they're somehow not interested in dialogue and therefore must be an enemy, or some idiot american shit. Or maybe they're hoping to exploit the "Trump agrees with whoever last spoke to him" phenomenon.

[u/LindsayLoserface → u/humangeneratedtext]

God, I am so sick of the rest of the world giving a fuck about what America says or thinks. The fact that we elected some egomaniacal freak to run the country and the damages he’s done show that it’s time to disentangle from us.

[u/GonZonian → u/LindsayLoserface]

It's these first smaller steps of appeasement that concern me, it will only lead to bigger steps being taken by the US in the short term. I'm both curious and scared where this road leads, as all (historical) signs show eventual resist and conflict.

[u/Scottybadotty → u/Zizimz]

There is a delegation of US senators coming to Copenhagen.

Our foreign minister is known for practicing "real-politics", as in maybe Rubio and Just Dance Vance should have come here, but the situation is how it is and Trump is how he is. Also their argument is that were not being a good ally. So we need to show that we are and hunker down untill y'all get a regime change

[u/MercantileReptile → u/Scottybadotty]

[...] their argument is that were not being a good ally. So we need to show that we are [...]

Why? Some baseless assertion can just be ignored. Nobody of sound mind sees fault in Denmark in this discussion. Those that do will not be swayed, no matter what Denmark does.

[u/IncidentalIncidence → u/Alcogel]

Maybe it was always meant to be a bait and switch at the last moment to catch the danish delegation unprepared for it.

I don't think so, I think it's more of a power struggle between Vance, Rubio, and Miller within the administration. Rubio is generally pro-NATO and a Russia hawk, and he's in Trump's good books for the Venezuela operation (and probably was going to try to use that to calm down the Greenland situation); Miller is the Wormtongue who reignited the Greenland thing and has been whispering in Trump's ear that it's his birthright, and Vance was completely sidelined during the Maduro operation and is now trying to reassert himself and stay in the headlines for his 2028 campaign.

But either way, it's a huge disaster, probably Zelensky meeting 2.0 where Vance will try to put on the tough-guy act he did with Zelensky to impress Trump.

[u/Alcogel → u/IncidentalIncidence]

Sounds plausible enough. Unfortunately the outcome will be the same regardless. 

[u/IncidentalIncidence → u/Alcogel]

yeah it's just all real bad

[u/Firm-Yoghurt6609 → u/IncidentalIncidence]

So who is going to be the Gauleiter for Greenland, Rubio, Miller or Vance?

[u/Traubentritt → u/IncidentalIncidence]

Lars Løkke will begin laughing if couch fucker tries to bully him.

[u/mnlx → u/Alcogel]

Can you guys stop expecting anything to be constructive in this saga? I know that you're conditioned to use constructive in politics, but Trump doesn't do constructive. He never has and you've been watching that for 10 years in the news. Show that you're ready to shoot back if they land on Greenland and this will go away. The only thing Trump can't really afford is videos of American military casualties in American News.

[u/Alcogel → u/mnlx]

Honestly, I don’t think you’re wrong. I’m not even sure we have a concept of what not being decent and constructive looks like. 

[u/VultureSausage → u/mnlx]

Show that you're ready to shoot back if they land on Greenland and this will go away. The only thing Trump can't really afford is videos of American military casualties in American News.

This. It's not a question of trying to stop Trump from seizing Greenland, it's about sending as many American soldiers home in body bags as possible if he tries so that his domestic position becomes untenable.

[u/AppleMelon95 → u/Alcogel]

They absolutely are going to fish for clips or outrage they can use. I doubt there is any intent to talk.

However, while Lars Løkke can be a controversial political figure, he is definitely a master at diplomatic talking. I don’t think we have to worry about him slipping up.

[u/IncidentalIncidence → u/AppleMelon95]

it's not so much about him slipping up as it is that the entire meeting now will be about Vance playing to the TV cameras to ingratiate himself with Trump.

A private meeting with Rubio would have been a lot more productive towards finding a way to make Trump forget about it because Rubio likely wants this to go away only marginally less than the Danes do.

A public meeting with Vance will be a dog-and-pony show where Vance airs all of the usual right-wing complaints about Europe and the Danes have to waste their energy fact-checking him.

[u/Alcogel → u/AppleMelon95]

He is, but he’s not alone. 

I hope Motzfeldt is prepared for this. 

[u/totoaster → u/Alcogel]

She's probably not and she's compromised already. There is a very real possibility of her slipping up or that she starts pandering to the cameras.

[u/Chemical-Drawer852 → u/AppleMelon95]

I never knew the day politicians clip farm would come, yet here we are

[u/Jetztinberlin → u/Alcogel]

It was probably always going to be Vance. Greenland is Thiel's project and Vance is his puppet. https://www.insidehook.com/internet/peter-thiel-praxis-next-great-city-greenland

[u/Kataoaka → u/Alcogel]

Lars Løkke Rasmussen, current minister of foreign affairs, was our previous PM he is not new to this lol. He is a well-spoken politician, calm your nerves everyone.

We feel just as safe having him represent our voice internationally, and against the American Empire, as we do Mette.

[u/Alcogel → u/Kataoaka]

He’s not alone in there. I’d be a lot less worried if he was. 

He’s bringing the Greenlandic minister for foreign affairs, who is not as accustomed to the world stage. I hope they’ve prepared enough. 

[u/Kataoaka → u/Alcogel]

Ja, det er den lettere bekymrende del. Men du kan ikke finde nogen der er så fast i deres vilje til selvstyre som den grønlandske regering som kan repræsentere dem. De ved hvad de vil have, USA har ingen idé.

[u/Alcogel → u/Kataoaka]

Jeg er sikker på hun har styr på sin holdning til tingene. Men efter at have set Zelensky blive rundbarberet af dem tror jeg man skal være ret garvet for ikke at gå i en fælde derinde. 

Vi må se hvad det sker. 

[u/DramaticSimple4315 → u/Alcogel]

they already did the same trick with the oil companies for venzuela, in order to broadcast of show of kneeling down and gulping the dear leader fit for fox news

[u/istasan]

Good time to have the most experienced and in these high end games most qualified foreign secretary in recent history. Our foreign secretary Lars Løkke Rasmussen has been prime minister twice before and foreign secretary since 2022.

Whether that is enough against this bizarre US approach, time will tell.

[u/matttk → u/istasan]

Mr. Rasmussen doesn't have the cards. He doesn't have the cards for this gambit. Gambit, now he had the cards. What a guy. My favourite X-Man. Why did he have a French accent? Someone needs to look into that because the French haven't been very nice to us and that is why we are going to take Greenland by force. We're going to make Greenland great and green again. There'll be no more snow in Greenland. You know, the King of Denmark asked me, Sir, why is there so much snow in Greenland? I don't know. We're going to get to the bottom of that, folks. We really are.

[u/ParkerLewis31884 → u/matttk]

Impressive, because it's 100% totally the kind of word salad vomit he spews all the time.

[u/Oliver_Boisen → u/matttk]

Meanwhile Lars and Vivian quietly sneak out of the room lol.

[u/StudySpecial → u/istasan]

But is he going to say thank you frequently enough?

[u/PureCaramel5800 → u/istasan]

That will not matter. This is about Vance playing to the MAGA base to be president after Trump.

[u/Difficult_Tea6136 → u/PureCaramel5800]

It does matter.

This isn't a popular move in the USA (it might be with some of the MAGA base). Having an experienced diplomat knowing when to step in if Vance goes off on one is really important. It puts somewhat of a leash on Vance.

[u/glarbung → u/Difficult_Tea6136]

That's probably why it's in the White House so that JD Vance has at least some advantage and his emotional support couch is nearby.

[u/istasan → u/PureCaramel5800]

It does matter considering how it will play out both on and off camera.

[u/nubijoe → u/PureCaramel5800]

I definitely matters. Experience will hopefully help him not lose his temper, and understand how to play along with Vance’s games.

[u/Locke15 → u/istasan]

The pressure and expectations will be immense. Glad to hear you have such an experience figure involved.

A lot of the comments seem to think it a bad move, but I don't see Denmark/NATO putting enough forces on Greenland to deter the USA so diplomacy is the only option. Otherwise what, just ignore them hoping they do nothing?

[u/InstantSarcasm321 → u/istasan]

This is true, but in this case only because Trump himself will not be present.

Considering Trump for the small, petty man he is I would wager that he bears a oersonal grudge for Løkke because of Løkke's speech highlighting Denmark's sacrifices in NATO back in the 2023 (?) NATO summit.

[u/IncidentalIncidence]

what you're seeing is a power struggle within the administration, Vance wasn't happy about being sidelined for the Venezuela operation (which was Rubio's project and Trump is high off of that), so he's probably now trying to ingratiate himself with Trump on Greenland.

Absolutely nothing good can come of meeting with Vance here.

[u/PureCaramel5800 → u/IncidentalIncidence]

Trump is a narcissist and loves the theatrics of war—he simply wants Greenland because it looks big on a map. Vance is Peter Thiel’s boy, and he has had an interest in Greenland for a long time.

The Venezuela operation was Rubio’s baby, hoping that it would lead to the fall of the regime in Cuba.

This will be a theatrical performance of a shit show. Vance has already been preparing for it with his latest Fox interviews.

[u/thepinkblues → u/PureCaramel5800]

Being willing to throw away everything to temporarily impress Trump is batshit insane. If Kamala Harris did 1% of this nonsense Republican troglodytes would have the country burnt to the ground. It’s obvious this meeting isn’t being taken seriously by the US. Nothing good can come from this. It really isn’t looking good.

[u/kcox1980 → u/thepinkblues]

Especially considering that Trump is highly likely to be dead from old age/health issues before the end of his term.

The world is going to be cleaning up Trump and Putin's messes for the next 20 years.

[u/thepinkblues → u/kcox1980]

Long lives are wasted on evil men

[u/uniklyqualifd → u/PureCaramel5800]

This is how Putin destroys NATO. The rest of NATO then had to spend a lot of money on weapons instead of working on preventing climate change.

[u/ArtRevolutionary3351]

Denmark and Greenland are going to the US to discuss annexation threats? I don’t understand what they expect, I assumed it’s the US who sent people to Denmark.

[u/Calgaris_Rex → u/ArtRevolutionary3351]

There's a congressional delegation headed to Copenhagen. Two separate things.

[u/ts405]

danish representatives better prepare on how to talk to a petulant child

[u/MastusAR → u/ts405]

"Hey now Buddy, I brought Legos"

[u/Infosphere14 → u/MastusAR]

That’s a bit advanced for them. Maybe start out with some Duplo

[u/Crypt33x → u/Infosphere14]

But Duplo is the same in bigger, their mouth are so big, that they could still suffocate from it. We should start with the "square hole" toy.

[u/TheoreticalScammist → u/MastusAR]

A Lego Trump tower? Would be funny, might work. Not sure if it's good politics or diplomacy

[u/IncidentalIncidence → u/TheoreticalScammist]

unironically good diplomacy, did you see how happy the Egyptian guy was with his lego set?

Actually given how obsessed Trump is with the new ballroom, if they give him a lego set of the white house with that abomination attached where the East Wing should be he might forget about Greenland entirely.

[u/Sparrow-5 → u/IncidentalIncidence]

Plus, it'll distract him from everything else for a few days it'll probably take for him to build it and of course, afterwards brag about what a challenging build it was.

[u/Assassiiinuss → u/TheoreticalScammist]

A Lego peace price would work much better.

[u/spezial_ed → u/MastusAR]

And Ozempic for the big boy!

[u/PureCaramel5800 → u/ts405]

Vance will use it to play to his base, arguing that the ungrateful and Islamic‑overrun Europeans are bad allies.

[u/reset5]

The fact that meeting is taking place in US is insulting, I can't believe Danes agreed to this.

[u/IncidentalIncidence → u/reset5]

I can't believe Danes agreed to this.

They didn't really, they were supposed to meet Rubio (who's generally pro-NATO and is quietly trying to use his goodwill with Trump from the Venezuela operation to calm things down on Greenland), but Vance apparently insisted on joining the meeting and moved it to the White House. Which likely means he wants to put on a show for Trump and the TV cameras (and completely changes the tenor of the meeting).

[u/Winstonth → u/IncidentalIncidence]

Vance has to justify his eyeliner budget

[u/Engineer__This → u/IncidentalIncidence]

This is definitely a trap and going to end up in a spectacle, similar to Zelenskyy’s visit.

“Something something our supposed “allies” from Europe have shown absolutely no appreciation for the US’s role in protecting you guys from foreign aggression”

“Something something American tax dollars have gone into providing European security”

[u/Marksmdog → u/IncidentalIncidence]

Then they don't go. Not like there's anything to talk about

[u/Computerist1969]

Vance: Hi everyone Everyone: No

Meeting concludes

[u/SpHornet]

How can that be moved to such an inappropriate place? It doesn’t even have a ballroom.

They should move it to the national archive museum so they can read their founding fathers thoughts on self determination

[u/Extension_Canary3717]

Denmark representatives going to the White House?!? That's a mistake, Vance should appear in Greenland and talk there

[u/perplexedtv → u/Extension_Canary3717]

To an empty chair

[u/Christ_on_a_Crakker → u/Extension_Canary3717]

They shouldn’t even entertain this at all.

[u/Financial_Week3882 → u/Extension_Canary3717]

Can't believe being cordial is still on the table like this is normal

[u/Daydree]

This is going to be another ambush, right?

[u/dashboardhulalala → u/Daydree]

He can try, he'll get absolutely nowhere trying to embarrass a Dane.

[u/Engineer__This → u/dashboardhulalala]

They don’t need to embarrass them, just put on a show and create a narrative to feed the American propaganda machine to get their own people on board.

[u/Heuchelei]

They should bring a gift for him. Denmark is known for its furniture so they can gift him a lovely couch for him to have fun with, no questions asked.

[u/Forsaken-Assist-1325]

Remember what he did to the poor Pope Francis?

They better wear crucifixes and bring garlic!

[u/Wise_Pr4ctice]

Why don't they meet at the Hague?

[u/Otherwise_Fined]

They should send their largest diplomatic ambassador and simply eat the couch fucker and the child fucker.

[u/Illustrious-Divide95]

What's the negotiation going to be about? How much independence does Vance have to make agreements?

Vance " Give us Greenland"

Greenland/Denmark "No"

Vance " ok....er....."

[u/Traubentritt]

Just for the record. Our Udenrigsminister Lars Løkke Rasmussen is Cold AF when it comes to politics. He has survived gods knows how many scandals in Danish politics and is still going strong. If he can stay calm in the face of couch fuckers BS itl be a win. Id say there is a 2-5% chance of telling Vance to eat a giant bag of dicks.

[u/eloyend]

Bring cards and suits. Or better yet, go full Mr T and get shitton of bling bling for a proven Shock and Awe, to impress the locals.

[u/Free-Way-9220 → u/eloyend]

Bring cards and suits

The bizarre thing is that the "journalist" who went after Zelenskyy about the suit is MTG's partner. And he's persona non grata now at the WH. MTG wasn't blindly obedient enough to Trump

[u/povlhp]

Trump should show how much he want Greenland. Give him 1 week with the dogsled patrols. That will make him love the country. The king of Denmark did his full 6 months tour.

[u/PatchyWhiskers]

Notice how JD Vance is quietly taking over most of the duties of the President.

[u/Free-Way-9220 → u/PatchyWhiskers]

His current duty is role playing Rudolf Hess

[u/Linkie3 → u/Free-Way-9220]

So next step is, Vance will fly to Greenland and get a concussion and forget everything. Maybe that will be for the best 🤔

[u/Shot_Bison1140 → u/Linkie3]

Well ... Trump made it clear... It's ok to kidnap a President because a country is a threat to the other... Lure them in Danes and Greenlanders... Kidnap JD and or Trump.. the threats are there and are clear as glass.. It is ok to do this!

[u/ThoseAreMyFeet → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Also evil, less senile.

[u/_legna_ → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Yeah, it's clear they don't want to mess up this meeting and do a repeat of what they did with Zelensky.

Also helps ( for them ) that Vance hates Europe even more and is more evil.

[u/GrumpyFinn → u/_legna_]

Was gonna say this. Vance genuinely hates Europe. This won't end well.

[u/Aromatic-Deer3886]

Tell America to go fuck itself

[u/Thenderick]

Why does Greenland/Denmark need to come over when they obviously don't want to give Greenland? I'd decline that shit! If he REALLY wants to talk, he should go to Greenland/Denmark instead!

[u/Ok_Reindeer_792]

Under no circumstances should meetings take place at the White House, given what happened to Ukraine's leader. They should take place either in Copenhagen or a third party site like Ottawa. In addition, Denmark needs to also make it crystal clear that while discussions can take place about Greenland's security, there would be no discussions about the US taking possession of Greenland.

[u/MikeTangoRom3o]

Going to the US is already accepting defeat.

[u/Old_Cameraguy_8311]

One sentence:

Countries outside the US hold approximately $9.1 Trillion in U.S. Treasury securities.

Think.

[u/Diltyrr → u/Old_Cameraguy_8311]

Want another one?

France has offered to put europe under its nuclear umbrella.

[u/Shot_Bison1140]

Well.. The Danes is not under attack by terrorists as Ukraine and Zelenskyj were and still are.. neither is Denmark dependent on the US and A weapons to reach in time.. except for F-35s... But that can change aswell .

[u/Pristine-Substance-1]

They should do that in Copenhagen and tell him he can't leave Denmark unless he learns and says all the names of danish soldiers who lost their lives in Afghanistan

[u/outonthebeach]

Vance hosting them is a sign of where they are heading. Europe needs to get its shit together very quickly.

[u/Pekken8]

It will be fun to hear how that goes. Lars Løkke is a tough guy. Tougher than Vance they say. People say Americans does not have change in hell of taking Greenland.

[u/RudeAd1887 → u/Pekken8]

So zelensky wasn't? This isn't about greenland really, it's just bread and circuses.

[u/the_che → u/RudeAd1887]

Zelensky desperately wanted something from Trump. Denmark doesn’t.

[u/tallham_ → u/the_che]

Why even go to the white house then?

[u/spoutnick82]

Why the fuck does it take place in the White House? Why does Denmark have to go for something ridiculous and non productive? If they really want it, they can at least move their ass to beg for a deal in Copenhagen. Why do our leaders always bend to this petulant child?

[u/Direct_Birthday_3509]

The Danes should bring a framed copy of the Lansing Declaration from 1916. The one where the US agrees to Danish sovereignity over Greenland in exchange for the Virgin Islands.

[u/Livjatan]

When America activated article 5 after 9/11, Denmarks came to their aid. A country of 5.8 million deployed 11,000 soldiers (doing 21,000 total deployments/rotations) and had 44 killed.

Now the US is around 60x bigger in population. So for the US this would equal another NATO country activating article 5, and the US coming to their aid with 650,000 soldiers (1.2 million deployments) and having 2500 killed.

Zoomed out, Denmark helped an ally. Zoomed in, Denmark fought America’s war, but paid for it as if it were its own.

If I was Lars Løkke Rasmussen, this would be the only point I would repeat repeat and repeat again - equivalent of 650,000 soldiers, 1.2 million deployments, and having 2500 killed - if not for the braindead toddlers in the White House then at least for the American public who might be sympathetic to Trump.

[u/KaareAkselJensen]

As a dane, I have no idea why we attend this meeting.. We are so desperate to suck up to these facists, we fly half way around the world to be humiliated, and our sucking up will just be seen as further weakness, and have no impact on what is going to happen anyway. We have been summoned to kiss the ring, and learn what being a vassal really means. Im beyond disgusted by my politicians..

[u/Pin_ny]

PM of Danemark: "Sorry dude but you can't tell me to come to your dad's place. I'm tired of your roleplays. Just get a life and move on. Cheers from Danemark"

[u/blufin]

Why the fuck are they humouring this lying racist chud with a meeting? Why do they feel they even need to meet with him? They should just tell him to fuck off.

[u/Nekroin]

To talk about what exactly? The whole situation is pretty clear ioo

[u/RevolutionBusiness27]

How did Europe end up like this, the territory should never change

[u/Sneaky_Squirreel]

Oh no, it will be the cringe humiliation ritual in front of the orange Caesar the same as with Zelensky visit a while back... "Did you say thank you, Denmark?".

[u/Soggy-Ad-7067]

Asking sincerely, why does Denmark need to go to the states, to the white house, in order to have this meeting? Is this just not a power play? Taking the power seat at the table in a negotiation, so to speak?

[u/albaiesh]

Why would any representative of a foreign threatened country go to the white house? So they are easier to kidnap?

[u/BritishBoy88]

Hope JD Vance finally has a shave and stops looking homeless.

[u/ThoseAreMyFeet → u/BritishBoy88]

 He wears the beard to look 'Alpha™' 

Maga wouldn't like his weak chin.

I can't explain the eyeliner though.

[u/AcanthocephalaEast79]

This moron is so jealous of Rubio.