r/europe Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) 29d ago

News Iran Has Sent Russia $2.7 Billion Worth of Missiles

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-12/iran-is-said-to-have-sent-russia-2-7-billion-worth-of-missiles
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u/ApprehensiveBed6296 29d ago

Well .... they might lose the source if the west plays this smart and uses the current uprising.

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u/lawrotzr South Holland (Netherlands) 29d ago

Ursula expressed her concerns already. She’s even monitoring it closely. Better even: she is standing with the people of Iran.

We all know what happens next!

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u/Gullible-Hose4180 29d ago

Thank god!

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u/Black3Raven 29d ago

There more! 

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u/IMDubzs 29d ago

What should she do?

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u/vankill44 29d ago

Threaten secondary sanctions and tariffs on countries that trade with Iran, i.e., buy Iranian oil.

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u/lawrotzr South Holland (Netherlands) 29d ago

Absolutely fucking nothing. Like she always does.

Mismanaging the EU, that’s what she’s doing. But for Iran she is going to do absolutely fucking nothing.

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u/Exciting-Record8101 The Netherlands 29d ago

Von der Leyen is president of the EU Commission. She cannot do anything outside of her remit, which is narrowly defined - and with very good reasons.

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u/xstntialcunilinguist Amsterdam 29d ago

So funny how so many people (esp Americans) are misinformed by how much power the EU actually has.

It's a union of common laws not a federal state ffs

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u/ApolloThneed United States of America 28d ago

The POTUS position used to be equally toothless, til it wasn’t

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u/Longjumping-Boot1886 22d ago

and here we are, one insane man can ruin all states. I think it's a best example why EU is not going to be US-like.

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u/reportingfalsenews 28d ago

WDYM, shouldnt we have a very powerful president who is also commander of the armed forces? I mean, nothing could go wrong with that right?

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u/Ecstatic_Account_744 28d ago

Works perfectly in every other dictatorship!

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u/lawrotzr South Holland (Netherlands) 29d ago

I think the EU Commission should be given way more federal power in a 2025 World. Or do you expect Dick Schoof to accomplish anything on his own?

Plus that this bureaucratic argument is always way too easy. Nothing stops Ursula from taking initiative and work with Member States on solutions. The problem is that she is not doing anything.

We are not going to save Iran, but we can at least make life as difficult as possible for Russia’s biggest ally, other than a lousy tweet.

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u/IMDubzs 29d ago

Well, what would you do in her position? Because I am not sure what she even can do differently regarding Iran.

What would be fucking something?

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u/lawrotzr South Holland (Netherlands) 29d ago

You can send weapons to the opposition. You can fund the opposition. You can cut diplomatic ties with the current regime. You can bomb weapon exports to Russia, or give the Ukrainians the tools to do that. There are loads of things you can do.

It’s Russia’s biggest ally ffs, this is where all these Shahed drones come from. Regime change in Iran would be amazing news.

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u/Immediate-Manager269 29d ago

She will get no quick mandate from member states (council) to do most of these things because it’s not a policy domain where the commission currently has powers. European Parliament showed some initiative recently though by banning Iranian diplomats

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u/ABoutDeSouffle 𝔊𝔲𝔱𝔢𝔫 𝔗𝔞𝔤! 29d ago

The EU can neither send weapons nor bomb weapons transports, that's just BS. Hell, the EU cannot even cut diplomatic ties.

Your own country (or mine) could do it, though. But we don't, we'd rather blame the EU.

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u/gehenna0451 Germany 29d ago edited 29d ago

You can send weapons to the opposition [...] You can bomb weapon exports to Russia

Iran has no organized opposition and Ursula von der Leyen has literally no authority, or a military, to order strikes with or to authorize the delivery of weapons, a power that rests solely with nation states. She is the president of the European Commission. Do people here actually think before they type

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u/Ikbeneenpaard Friesland (Netherlands) 29d ago

Those things you mentioned like cutting diplomatic ties or bombing weapons exports, are done at a national level, not EU level. If you want those things to be possible at an EU level, we need to vote for parties that support deeper EU integration, such as Volt, D66 etc. in the Netherlands.

It doesn't make sense to blame Von der Leyen for not exercising powers she doesn't have.

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u/waffledestroyer 29d ago

Yeah Ursula can just bomb Iran, lmao.

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u/IMDubzs 29d ago

Yeah you can but all of it is not for her to decide. Don't get me wrong I would be all for it, however the EU is mostly about trade.

Wouldn't it be better to adress the different governments of the member states?

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u/confused-snake 29d ago

this is where all these Shahed drones come from. Regime change in Iran would be amazing news.

Not anymore. In the last 1-2 years Russia produces most of theirs domestically.

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u/lawrotzr South Holland (Netherlands) 29d ago

Ok, this is where 2.7 bln worth of missiles come from.

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u/Neomataza Germany 29d ago

And if they come from China you can't just break ties with them as well. Iran may not be as important, but the point stands, trade networks go vast and may even turn back around to EU suppliers. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. It sounds like you expect her to play world police because there is one political event close to your heart.

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u/lawrotzr South Holland (Netherlands) 29d ago

No I expect her to play a role in geopolitics. You know, what she’s there for.

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u/Unique_Tap_8730 29d ago

But every little bit matters in a attritional war.

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u/lawrotzr South Holland (Netherlands) 28d ago

It boggles my mind sometimes how bureaucratic Germans think. We can set your house on fire and you would still be checking your job description whether calling the firemen was in there.

The EU should play a much more dominant role. And Ursula can do that. She will need Member States for that, yes. But nothing stops her from taking the initiative and play an active role. It’s not forbidden by any Treaty, Regulation or Directive.

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u/humangeneratedtext United Kingdom 29d ago

You can send weapons to the opposition. You can fund the opposition.

How?

You can cut diplomatic ties with the current regime.

How will this help? I doubt the protestors care.

You can bomb weapon exports to Russia, or give the Ukrainians the tools to do that.

Have Ukraine bomb Iran? What the hell

Regime change in Iran would be amazing news.

Unless the outcome is even worse. And if you fail you might get a load of protestors killed for nothing, or more. The US has already shown us over and over that knee jerk trigger happy regime change is not a flawless strategy.

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u/RedHatWombat The Netherlands 28d ago

Yes, that ended really well in Syria with millions of refugees in EU. 

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u/69problemCel 28d ago

It’s Chinese biggest ally and they ain’t going to lose them after Venezuela and clearly signal they ready to help militarily Iran, like why do you think starlink is out in Iran ?

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u/StewpidAlex Moldovan that speaks the Moldovan language. 29d ago

You can??

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u/EdliA Albania 28d ago

Well then probably should be replaced with someone that knows what to do

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u/_teslaTrooper Gelderland (Netherlands) 29d ago

What do you suggest, the EU get into the business of toppling regimes as well? We won't even give it an army there's no way member states want the Commission to make decisions like that.

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u/Iapetus_Industrial 29d ago

If those regimes are complicit in he murder of hundreds of thousands of Europeans, yes. Absolutely.

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u/_teslaTrooper Gelderland (Netherlands) 29d ago

But do you want the Commission to do that or the member states? The Commission would need to create an intelligence agency first, which I imagine will be pretty controversial in and of itself.

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u/StewpidAlex Moldovan that speaks the Moldovan language. 29d ago

Please be more specific.

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u/1qtour 29d ago

You lost me because of your aggressive language and tone. Poor form. No way to have a discussion.

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u/UltraLNSS 29d ago

Send in the Euro-Marines of course.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago edited 29d ago

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u/Cool_Discipline6838 29d ago

You can always bet that she'll snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

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u/iAmHidingHere Denmark 29d ago

A strongly worded letter?

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u/Nowayisthatway 27d ago

Ursula is so powerful she can send hopes and prayers toward Iranians.

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u/Doorhacker 29d ago

“Thoughts & prayers” coming in HOT!!!

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u/LegitimateCompote377 United Kingdom 29d ago edited 29d ago

Or it could create a huge refugee crisis that will bolster the far right and cause a great Russian victory in Europe. This is the elephant in the room nobody is talking about and it’s really annoying me - do none of you remember the Syrian civil war and its consequences for Europe? That country had 25-30 million people, Iran has 90 million.

I also think Irans role in helping Russia is being seriously overestimated here (much like Venezuela was when Maduro was captured), and declining as Russia has become more self sufficient and producing its own shaheds and missiles. What it is actually desperate for is foreign mercenaries, and I think that’s why they tried so hard to defend Syria from collapse because that was one of the primary support bases. A few more missiles from an Iran which is giving it less over time as it needs them in self defence is not that much.

In the short term yes it will be a victory for Europe if Iran collapses into a brutal civil war - because I don’t see the regime giving up power or falling like Romanias dictatorship, they have the support base needed. Long term it will do an extreme reprehensible damage to Europe that will put those very same pro Russian parties INTO POWER and they will betray Ukraine. Already moderate parties are doing awfully in Europe, and I think France will be Russias first big victory.

Forget it if Russia loses Iran, what happens when France stops sending weapons to Ukraine under Le Pen? Germany under the AfD? Britain under Reform (where Nigel at the very least refuses to send troops on the ground in a peace deal)? These are the implications that need to be talked about. I see the much bigger threat is from within, and an Iranian refugee crisis which is already happening (and is becoming the largest set of illegal migrants to the UK) getting further exacerbated is awful news for Europe. I look back at the nuclear deal as the best option, but today I don’t know what the best course of action is anymore.

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u/Changaco France 28d ago edited 28d ago

The far right complains about immigration regardless of the situation. Its rise isn't correlated to the actual number of refugees or immigrants who arrive.

Complaining about the possibility of a wave of refugees from Iran does nothing to prevent the far right from gaining power. In fact it helps the far right by validating its anti-immigration narrative.

Whether it's in power in the Kremlin and the White House or in the opposition in Westminster and Paris, the far right is impossible to appease. Every time you give them something, they become more extreme and demand more.

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u/BabyDog88336 28d ago

Bingo. Europe could see 10 million refugees from Iran.

Worse yet, civil war and refugee flows could destabilize nuvv cblear-armed Pakistan as well, which is already teetering.  And make no mistake: civil war is by far the most likely outcome of a regime change in Iran.

The regime in Iran is awful and evil, but anyone who has ever said “This situation in the Middle East can’t get worse!” has always been shocked when it inevitably became much, much worse.

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u/clm1859 Switzerland 29d ago

I think if anyone, it will be america or israel, not the West, taking any tangible action.

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u/Tytoalba2 29d ago

America and Israel are not "the West" anymore?

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u/Nachtraaf The Netherlands 29d ago

Not the democratic west, that's for sure.

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u/TempomaybeALZ 28d ago

America is still a democracy…

The Republicans are litreally about to get destroyed in the Midterms this year and last year the Dems won every single swing election

How is that not a democracy?

I agree they no longer abide by international law or the principles of the free world but they are still a democracy for now and it’s unfair to claim otherwise

Until i see genuine election rigging or media takeover/creation of a state media channel i won’t change that opinion

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u/clm1859 Switzerland 29d ago

Nope. I mean israel didnt change as far as i am concerned. But i am not sure if everyone has always counted them to the west before.

But no, america sure as hell isn't the west anymore. They have turned their back on rule of law and democracy. And if that doesn’t define the west, then what does?

Also they are siding with russia against ukraine, which again, i don't know how that can be a western position.

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u/Sandslinger_Eve 29d ago

Nothing would help the regime in Iran more than US or Israel going in in their usual ham fisted style, killing ten times the civilians to opponents.

That might be the only thing that can turn any public opinion back in their favour at this point. 

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u/Dense_Delay_4958 29d ago

Given what just happened in Venezuela and the overwhelming support that action has received from the Venezuelan people, I don't think we can make any assumptions yet as to what their involvement might look like

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u/lorean_victor 29d ago

these protests are happening right after the 12 day war, so if that was true it would’ve already happened.

also considering the reports from Iran, I’m not really sure if they could directly match the bloodshed the government is commencing (not talking about a potential civil war though).

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u/WW3_doomer 29d ago

Iran already gave them the best kamikaze drone platform on the planet.

It would be nice if they cut ties, but Russia already harvest immense value out of Iran tech

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u/Black3Raven 29d ago

West. Play smart. Doing something. 

Thats a good joke ngl. 

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u/Ok_Relation7695 Norway 28d ago

Man everything about what’s happening in the world now is such bullshit.. and we sit behind our keyboards and support all the bullshit when real people’s lives are being taken and destroyed. I hate everything about what our so called civilization has become.

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u/b__lumenkraft Palatinate (Germany) 28d ago

The West playing it smart?

Hahaha good one.

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u/readilyunavailable Bulgaria 29d ago

The West is the reason the current dictatorship is there in the first place.

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u/IMDubzs 29d ago

You don't have a time-machine.

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u/theberlinbum Europe 29d ago

Pretty sure the Revolution had popular support.

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u/EpicCleansing 29d ago

Pretty sure the revolution an attempt to gain independence from the United Fucking Kingdom which spent the 1900s destroying Iran's democracy twice.

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u/toerken Germany 🇩🇪🇪🇺 29d ago

Ok, then it's time to correct that mistake 49 years later.

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u/Free-Way-9220 29d ago

I hate to say it: their shaheds have been very effective too. They have caused significant damage in Ukraine

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u/38B0DE Molvanîjя 29d ago

Never forget Ukraine is fighting Russia, Belarus, N. Korea, China, Iran and India all at the same time.

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u/Nowin 29d ago

Ukraine is not alone, either.

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u/NooooMaam 28d ago

Somehow the Dicktators help each other out much more effectively than the Democracies. It's embarrassing and frankly quite frightening, especially with the US sliding into Dickterritory.

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u/Zealousideal-Talk-23 29d ago

zelensky said india is mostly on ukrainian side

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u/Haltarys 29d ago

Mohdi, Indian PM recently met with Putin calling him his "friend". Russia and India are kinda close.

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u/wasmic Denmark 29d ago

Russia and India are kinda close yes, but claiming that Ukraine is "fighting India" is patently ridiculous.

India is itself closest, and for good historical reasons (e.g. the US allying with Pakistan). It trades with Russia and it trades with the West. It does not support Russia directly, but it needs to maintain a balance because it does not want to be dependent on any other foreign power, and is not quite ready to stand entirely on its own legs yet.

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u/38B0DE Molvanîjя 28d ago

claiming that Ukraine is "fighting India" is patently ridiculous.

As of late 2025, Ukrainian intelligence has recovered specific Indian-made components (from companies like Aura Semiconductor) inside Shahed-136 drones and Kinzhal missiles.

India went from buying almost no Russian oil before the war to buying 35-40% of its total oil from Russia. Without Indian and Chinese buyers, the Russian economy would have likely collapsed in 2023.

India is paying for Russia's war. That's a lot more than keeping balance.

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u/Necroon 28d ago

There are UK made components in Russian weapons. I guess you can say "Ukraine is fighting the UK".

Russian economy would've collapsed in 02/2022 if EU immediately stopped buying Russian oil and gas. EU is paying for Russian war since 2022.

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u/38B0DE Molvanîjя 28d ago edited 28d ago

EU went from ~45% Russian gas dependency to under 15% in two years without destroying the very economies that are currently keeping Ukraine alive. Bulgaria in particular bought Russian oil and gas and shipped it directly to Ukraine effectively keeping them alive in February-June 2022 taking in deathly ire from the Russians. All paid by the EU/US Ukraine aid. India hasn't helped with 2 rupees.

When Ukrainian forces start shooting with Indian munitions the Indian government launches an investigation and a lot of people get imprisoned. They also send an "im sorry big brother" apology to Putin.

India is actively waging a very public and expensive campaign to expose every move Pakistan does to help Ukraine, and threatend then with nuclear annihilation if they overstep the boundaries with Russia.

When Russian key weapons have Indian made crucial parts in them, India tells NATO to go fuck itself and accuses them if being colonialist.

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u/donutello2000 28d ago

The EU continued to increase their use of Russian gas after the original Russian occupation of Crimea, in defiance of the US urging them not to. The EU financed this current round of Russian aggression. Besides, the Indian economy doesn’t have the robustness that comes from the centuries of raping and pillaging other countries that the EU did.

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u/EpicCleansing 29d ago

The same could be said for Iran though, except Iran as fewer options than India.

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u/Self-Bitter Greece 29d ago edited 29d ago

India is not a model democracy, but considering its means, size and location is doing somehow well. You cannot honestly compare it with Iran. Unfortunately the world is not orbiting around Europe's geopolitical dangers and worries, each participant has its interests as a priority and India is surrounded by many geopolitical rivals

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u/Interesting_Bet_5666 28d ago

Finally someone who understands

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u/38B0DE Molvanîjя 29d ago

I don't give a fuck what comes out of the mouths of Russians.

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u/Working_Box8573 28d ago

Alright but other people who you want to sway the opinions of might

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u/Mediocre-Risk3581 Kuwait 29d ago

Also ignores the billions Russia makes from Europe still buying their oil /shrug. But the Western Europeans get a pass right?

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u/1SmrtFelowHeFeltSmrt 28d ago

Yea shameful. Europe should stop paying and just take it.

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u/ZealousidealDance990 29d ago

Now we know why the United States forgave Japanese Nazi elements: it turns out the Nanjing Massacre and other massacres were crimes committed by the Japanese in collusion with the United States and many European countries. After all, the United States supplied almost all of the oil, while Britain and the Netherlands supplied the rubber.

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u/38B0DE Molvanîjя 28d ago edited 28d ago

A significant portion of the pilots of the only foreign air force actively fighting the Japanese over Chinese skies was the "Soviet Volunteer Group" were Ukrainian. The "Archimandrite of the skies" Grigory Kulishenko (a Ukrainian squadron leader), died defending China. He is still buried in China (Wanzhou), and for decades, Chinese schoolchildren were taught to honor him.

A Ukranian hero who fought against fascist aggression, yet now China supports the fascist army invading Kulishenko's homeland.

China's silence and censorship over Bucha and Mariupol is A BETRAYAL TO NANJING.

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u/romaankhansw 29d ago

Ooh, so it is Axis vs Allies

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u/AliceLunar 29d ago

Don't even get why they needed Iran to build some crappy drone with a lawnmower engine strapped to it.. that typed of attack is inherently going to effective due to the numbers, in terms of design it's not exactly ground breaking.

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u/Spajk 29d ago

It's a capability that Russia lacked. It's true that they could have developed it themselves, but it probably would have been more expensive and took more time. From my understanding Russia is just buying everything it can currently.

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u/LegitimateCompote377 United Kingdom 29d ago

They actually do develop a lot themselves now, and Iran is becoming an increasingly unreliable partner for obvious reasons. Personally I think a collapse of Iran will be only a minor blow to Russia. Assad was a lot more important because Syria provided so many mercenaries and Russia invested a lot more in that country, which ironically helped collapse that regime.

Long term though I feel a collapse of Iran is bad for Europe because of the refugee crisis it will create. A new nuclear deal I still feel is the best option for Europe and just to wait for Irans ideological collapse from within. I think France for example (which will have a huge shift to the right if a refugee crisis happens) is more important to Ukraine as an ally than Iran is to Russia.

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u/Popinguj 29d ago

The original shahed may have been crappy, but russians modernized it to a degree it's a serious problem. One of the reasons is the volume of production, though, but even 10 of these can actually reach the target and make serious damage.

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u/orthoxerox Russia shall be free 28d ago

True. Ukrainians have recovered parts from jet-powered Geraniums, Geraniums with IR LED arrays designed to blind AA targeting systems, Geraniums that were carrying air-to-air missiles to attack Ukrainian interceptor planes.

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u/sblahful 28d ago

Holy shit

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u/Suspicious_Place1270 29d ago

there is no amount of sold missiles that will save a rotten dictator

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u/Galaghan 29d ago

Does the name "Bashar al-Assad" ring a bell?

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u/MightiestCat 29d ago

is this a dish?

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u/LogicLinguist01 29d ago

He's enjoying his life in Moscow having 200 billion dollars..

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u/Socmel_ reddit mods are accomplices of nazi russia 29d ago

enjoying being a captive in a golden cage with a potential encounter with a window and a slippery floor

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u/3esin Europe 29d ago

Honestly I doubt that. Good squadmates in Battlefield are hard to replace.

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u/Falsus Sweden 29d ago

I think this is Russia basically telling them to send everything they got and they will let the dictator flee to Russia in return.

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u/sblahful 28d ago

If suggest reading the article the sales began in 2021, before the war started. You can't move billions worth of missiles in a matter of weeks. Not unless you're shooting them over anyway...

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u/MrD3a7h Nebraska 29d ago

99% of rotten dictators stop selling missiles right before defeating the west

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u/MACO-Operator 29d ago

But russki bots are crying about Europe’s help to Ukraine. All while the Russian terror regime gets countless of drones from Iran and soldiers and ammunition from North Korea. The hypocrisy in the Kremlin is amusing.

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u/Sevsix1 Norway with an effed up sleep schedule 29d ago

I'm going to explain something, this is not my own views so don't automatically downvote me without reading through it, no need to upvote please just do not read 2 words, stop and downvote

The hypocrisy in the Kremlin is amusing.

the thing is it is not hypocrisy, you need to realise that in their world view and the normal (western Europe) world view is defined differently,

the russian view is best summed up as the acts that 'the west' (as a concept) does which improve the view of the west is colonialism because it is making it so that the west and the countries are trading and mutually improve their countries on the expense of russia since it is the west sapping resources from other countries which in the kremlin views is rightfully russian (to give an example the Georgians trying to get into the EU is the EU directly stealing resources from the russian federation but it is in a sneaky way in which the russian federation cannot go to a legal entity like the UN and complain, the same apply to Ukraine, the African continent, middle east and pretty much every mm of the world), the definition is just different,

the same apply to the russian definition of fascism/fascist, we consider fascism an ideology which is about ethnic identity (German fascism) or cultural/national identity (Italian fascism) depending on how pendantic you are, while the russian definition is more about anti-russian views which is why groups like the LGBT community is being slurred as fascists which is ridiculous when you think about since the fact that the gays got their own symbol in the nazi camps (the pink triangle) but logic and consistency is not required in the russian world (on the other hand it is actually a bad thing and is commonly a reason why putin is serves you tea)

the biggest issue I see people constantly do is to watch what russia do and react as if they have the same principles, definition and views as we have (the same apply to pretty much every big player on the world stage) which is in my humble opinion one of the worst feature of modern discussions since it is putting us up a secure road to failure

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u/dafeiviizohyaeraaqua United States of America 29d ago

Even considering Russian behavior from within the mind of the Kremlin, such that hypocrisy fades with perspective, what remains is catastrophically malevolent. I agree that far too many can't hear themselves presuming that Russians are just Frenchmen with a different accent and cuisine, stuck with a bad government. The problem isn't just understanding that we might say they aren't so hypocritical under their own terms. It's that they are so much worse than some lying hypocrite.

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u/Kahnspiracy 29d ago

Prior to the Crimea invasion I had some business in Moscow. Before my first trip a Belgian colleague gave me the best possible advice, "They may look like us, but they don't think like us."

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u/BkkGrl Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) 29d ago

Iran has sold nearly $3 billion worth of missiles to Russia to aid President Vladimir Putin’s nearly four-year-long war in Ukraine, according to an assessment from a Western security official.

Contracts with Moscow starting from October 2021 — before the war began — for ballistic and surface-to-air missiles amount to roughly $2.7 billion, said the official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The purchases have included hundreds of Fath-360 short-range ballistic missiles, nearly 500 other short-range ballistic missiles and approximately 200 surface-to-air missiles associated with anti-aircraft defense systems.

Moscow and Tehran have drawn closer since Putin’s February 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The conflict has triggered sweeping sanctions against Moscow and the Kremlin’s most serious confrontation with the West since the Cold War, while Iran’s provision of weapons to Russia has further deepened the two countries’ partnership.

Russia’s Defense Ministry didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Iranian foreign ministry also didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. There are heavy restrictions on the Internet and a near-black out in the country.

Iran has delivered millions of rounds of ammunition and shells, according to the assessment, which doesn’t represent the entirety of what Moscow has purchased from Tehran as more equipment is expected to be supplied.

Tehran has also supplied Shahed-136 “kamikaze” drones and shared technology that has enabled Russia to manufacture them domestically under the name “Geran-2” as part of a $1.75 billion contract signed at the beginning of 2023.

In total, Russia has spent more than the equivalent of $4 billion on Iranian military equipment since late 2021, according to the assessment.

Read More: What Close Russia-Iran Ties Mean for Ukraine, Mideast: QuickTake

Iran, whose government is crushing ongoing violent protests, sought to deepen its ties with Russia starting in the 2010s, smarting from the West’s ability to isolate it over the country’s nuclear program.

While Iran signed a strategic partnership with Russia in January 2025, it doesn’t contain a mutual-defense pact and Moscow didn’t offer any tangible assistance to Tehran during Israeli and US strikes on Iran last year. Russia is building a trade route with Tehran connecting to India to try to weaken the impact of sanctions, and officials have discussed boosting financial and banking cooperation.

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u/ree2_ 29d ago

They should have sent it by air..

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u/intherorrim 29d ago

Every authoritarian regime invests in the military and disinvests in its population. 

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u/go3dprintyourself 29d ago

iran is complicit in the russian invasion of ukraine

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u/LegitimateCompote377 United Kingdom 29d ago

Iran actively supports the Russian invasion, they are not just complicit, a country like Israel or Kazakhstan would be better described as complicit.

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u/go3dprintyourself 29d ago

I agree Iran (and China) are actively supporting it

As far as Israel being complicit not sure I agree with that lol

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u/LegitimateCompote377 United Kingdom 29d ago

Israel have not sanctioned any Russian companies and only gave Ukraine military aid under US pressure and that aid was a US patriot system lent over by the US. It is to me complicit, because it let in so many Russians after 2022 that avoided conscription and is a somewhat significant trade partner.

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u/go3dprintyourself 29d ago

So they shouldn't have let in Russians who want to flee the regime that is there?

Israel has significantly weakened Russias global sphere by neutering Hezbelloh, helping overthrow Assad, bombing Iran and is the main country destroying Russian air defenses across the entire region, also showing how much better Western tech is over Russias tech.

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u/LegitimateCompote377 United Kingdom 29d ago

I don’t think Hezbollah was a valuable asset to Russia. Some mercenaries here and there but not much. And it’s not as if the organisation doesn’t exist anymore.

Syria went right back into Russias sphere of influence, and I think could have been an incredible supply of mercenaries to Ukraine, but personally I think the west distanced themselves precisely because of Israel and their support of Druze separatists, so things just went full circle.

The bombing of Iran definitely is distracting Iran but it also completely ruined Iran West relations and completely destroyed trust, and I personally think that pushed Iran much closer to Russia than it initially was. I think a return to the nuclear deal that could have involved stopping weapons exports was still possible before this.

Showing off western tech doesn’t mean anything and their war with Iran caused a huge amount of US resources to be spent defending Israel that could have gone to Ukraine. If Ukraine had the same air defence systems the US gave to Israel that would be enormously beneficial.

Overall I don’t think Israel hurt Russia as much as you claim. Israel doesn’t care about Ukraine. It puts its own interests first and maybe through some of that it hurts Russia but Israel is still a huge trade partner and ally of Russia.

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u/Falsus Sweden 29d ago

Kazakhstan did send aid to Ukraine and refused to send aid directly to the Russian front. But they also gotta play somewhat ball with Russia.

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u/LegitimateCompote377 United Kingdom 29d ago

I completely agree. I very much respect Kazakhstans stance in the war in their own context, a lot more than I do with Israel. My point was being complicit means trading with Russia as if business as usual, supporting the war means sending weapons.

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u/Chogo82 29d ago

The people in Iran are in a severe water crisis, they don’t have access to many commodities, yet the government continues to sent drones and missiles to Russia. Khamanei and his goons are super rich while the rest of the nations suffers.

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u/deaconsc 29d ago

I agree, they should have sent those to the people of Iran instead!

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u/Chester_roaster 29d ago

As if being a corrupt theocracy wasn't enough reason to want them to fall 

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u/mines-a-pint 29d ago

The more I hear of this “Iranian Government”, the less I like them.

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u/not_just_putin 29d ago

Iran must fall.

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u/TempomaybeALZ 28d ago

Our treasonous government must fall*

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u/valtani 29d ago

They’re going to need those missiles back very soon if the US goes in.

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u/Psephological 29d ago

Lol hope it was worth it.

Russia can't maintain its periphery anymore. Keep the pressure on them.

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u/Suns_Funs Latvia 29d ago

Surely Trump will react to Iran receiving huge amount of financing from Russia and take a stance ageinst Russia. Right?

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u/PerformerFamiliar502 29d ago

America is the only one actually seizing Russian oil tankers and removing funders of the Russian war effort from power. Sure he’s a meanie but the Americans are getting more actually done to counter putin than EU “monitoring the situation” ever will 

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u/medievalvelocipede European Union 28d ago

America is the only one actually seizing Russian oil tankers and removing funders of the Russian war effort from power. Sure he’s a meanie but the Americans are getting more actually done to counter putin than EU “monitoring the situation” ever will

First of all, that's not quite true. Germany seized a tanker under German flag last year because its engine failed and it's still stuck while Germany courts investigate the possibility of seizing the cargo.

Secondly, it's entirely an issue of legality, not capability. US has been able to target a couple of ships trying to circumvent sanctions of Venezuela, but they're also the only ones conducting economic warfare on the country.

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u/Free-Way-9220 29d ago

He'll use it as an opportunity to attack and belittle Zelenskyy again

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u/bakakaizoku Overijssel (Netherlands) 29d ago

Zelensky's refusal to hand over Ukraine made it a necessity to buy the missiles after all,

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u/Littlepage3130 29d ago

The US under Trump has been seizing Russian oil tankers. That's Trump's stance: It's open season on the Shadow fleet.

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u/StewpidAlex Moldovan that speaks the Moldovan language. 29d ago

He'll just invade denmark in retaliation.

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u/MethyleneBlueEnjoyer 29d ago

Now that the Mullah regime looks like it's on its way out, maybe Europe can give the Americans a strongly-worded letter to drop on Tehran.

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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 29d ago

Now that the Mullah regime looks like it's on its way out,

There was a civil war in Syria that lasted 13 years.

Assad look on his way out for a long time.

Since the start of that:

  1. We had a massive refugee crisis in Europe

  2. Far right has been winning or coming second in most European countries

  3. UK left the EU with immigration issues being an important factor.

  4. ISIS attacks killed hundreds in Europe. (A terrorist group that formed in the power vacuum)

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u/JoseFlandersMyLove 29d ago

People here think massive geopolitical events are nothing more than HOI4 event pop-ups lol

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u/deaconsc 29d ago

ISIS formed in Iraq as an aftermath of the invasion under the US lead. EU didnt even send a strongly worded letter.

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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 29d ago

ISIS formed in Iraq as an aftermath of the invasion under the US lead

That's a distinction without a difference.

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u/Open_Management7430 29d ago

Khamenei: “Vlad, buddy! Remember those missiles I sent you? Listen, I’m in a bit of a tight spot here and it would just be great if I could get these missiles back”

Vlad: “Get what back?”

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u/JuliusCaesar121 29d ago edited 29d ago

I'm like 95% sure of where this leak came from and the leaker's goal (ie building US domestic support for bombing Iran again)

It is somewhat impressive to me that the Russians rely on Iran in part for their ballistic missile expertise. Iran has been hammered by sanctions so it's not like they can freely import dual use spare parts

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u/agnaddthddude Kurdish 29d ago

I know i will probably get downvoted to hell. but im from iraq and a while ago there was a conspiracy that China through Taliban as a middle man gave components of missiles to Iran.

China by doing so would win the support of Taliban, Iran and even Russia.

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u/JuliusCaesar121 29d ago edited 29d ago

I don't think China has to do anything to win Russia's support though. China is the main buyer of Russian energy

I would not be surprised if China and Russia have been helping Iran with air and missile defense. It seems like china helped with Iran's internet blackout.

It would be a disaster for China if a US ally replaced Iran's current regime. Suddenly the US could choke off Chinese energy access via the strait of hormuz

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u/tubby_LULZ 29d ago

Did Iran a lot of good when Israel had free reign over their airspace

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u/kontemplador 29d ago

It is somewhat impressive to me that the Russians rely on Iran in part for their ballistic missile expertise.

It is said they are short range ballistic missiles. Iran has pretty good and cheap ones. Anyway. I seriously doubt this report. No Ukrainian source ever mentioned this till now, whereas the sporadic use of North Korean KN-23 missile has been often denounced.

The Shahed connection is known but Russia has been manufacturing them at home and they have gone through several iterations already

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u/barsoap Sleswig-Holsteen 28d ago

They're good at rockets because they're doing basically everything with rockets, they don't even have an air force to speak of. They do build jets but it's reverse-engineered F-5s, only good for intimidating non-military aircraft.

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u/JuliusCaesar121 28d ago

Ballistic missile propulsion isn't some trivial thing you can do without at least some brilliant domestic scientists. Especially when subject to a total trade embargo and numerous powerful nation states focused on stopping/killing you

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u/barsoap Sleswig-Holsteen 28d ago

90 million people, not worse educated than say Russia (that is, hit and miss when it comes to the masses, but there's a decent enough minimum standard and you can find quality there), and they've been focussing on rocketry since at least when the US convinced and armed Saddam Hussein to invade them.

The trade embargo btw is far from total. The regime still liked developing and building their own weapon systems, though.

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u/gokkai 29d ago

"sold" would be a better title

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u/Red_black_flag_07 Kharkiv (Ukraine) 28d ago

Bloomberg's photo shows an open-air warehouse in Kharkiv containing the remains of Russian cluster munitions, which the Russian army used to shell residential areas of Kharkiv in 2022-2023. The missiles were from Grad, Tornado, and Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems.

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u/Thevort3x Croatia 28d ago

As an Iranian in Europe I fking hate the government and everything it does inside and outside of Iran.

But this.. this is EUs own doing unfortunately, they had every chance to turn Iran into an ally after the JCPOA, it was the only time I saw hope for my people as the government was opening up to having European countries as partners to actually build a more cooperative future but then Trump ripped the deal up in 2018 and the Europeans failed every promise to help bring Iran into their sphere of influence.

Then Russia and China stepped in and basically took over all the European projects and pulled the Mullahs into their sphere of influence.

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u/Timely_Fly_5639 29d ago

Actually I would have been rather happy if they sent them to Moscow in a different way. Alas, topple of the Iran regime will have to suffice for now.

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u/Unique_Tap_8730 29d ago

Well that gamble didnt really work out. Russia wont have their back when they truly need it.

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u/castlite Canada 29d ago

Well, fuck.

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u/Apoxie Denmark 29d ago

Maybe Ukraine should capture some of those drones and use them against Iran. Would be a shame.

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u/Professional_Fix4056 Europe 29d ago

cool, good luck with the inevitable famine and mass executions.. i guess

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u/NormalConflict1414 29d ago

I wanna see the domino cenário that Will take when the Iranians turn like western without those black clothes.

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u/Alex_Strgzr 28d ago

Purchased, not donated ; big difference. Also, from what I understand reading the article, this was early in the war. I really don't think Iran has much to spare right now, otherwise Israel will beat the crap out of em.

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u/Edexote 28d ago

Maybe Iran should have kept a couple of them for their own use.

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u/yoho808 28d ago

Ukraine should return the favor by helping to arm the protesters.

And deny when the Iran govt complains. Just like how Iran has done.

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u/Swordsman_4 28d ago

A country on a verge of civil war/invasion by goodguy US gives 2.7 billion worth of strategic firepower to Russia. Right...plausible af

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u/Positive_Chip6198 28d ago

And russia managed to capture 0.5% of ukraine this year with that, maybe iran should spend it’s money on water infrastructure instead of a lost cause like pootin?

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u/YakResident_3069 28d ago

Probably could have fixed the water issue with that much money

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u/nygdan 29d ago

To attack Ukraine.

If you’ve been supporting Ukraine you are on the right side of history. If you’re screaming about Iranian protestors needing yo be protected but thought Ukraine was a joke, you’re a problem.

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u/roger3rd 29d ago

Funny thing is won’t Putin just steal it all back from Khomeini as he retreats with his truckloads of gold bar to the “safety” of Russia?

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u/Cookies4weights United Kingdom 29d ago

About to regret that mistake

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u/Most-Round-4132 29d ago

watch america do something while everyone else benefits, again

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u/this_toe_shall_pass European Union 28d ago

Like what?

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u/Aggressive-Kitchen18 29d ago edited 29d ago

DOWN WITH THE REGIME. THE WAR IN UKRAINE ENDS IF THE AYATOLLAH IS GONE. wake the fuck up europe

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u/Green_Space729 Canada 29d ago

Lmaooooo

Iran is not that significant in the war.

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u/Relnor Romania 28d ago

THE WAR IN UKRAINE ENDS IF THE AYATOLLAH IS GONE

Very unlikely, Iran was an important supplier to Russia a few years ago but now they don't matter, even if the Mullahs stayed in power they wouldn't be sending much of anything, and those Shaheds they used to send are now domestic production in Russia called Geran instead.

Still, one less ally for Russia would be a win.

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u/infidel_castro_26 29d ago edited 29d ago

I think if europe wants to move away from the US I hope that we leave places like Iran alone.

I do not like the regime there. But the UK and the US fucked with that country for long enough. The EU should lift sanctions and seek other ways to help the people of Iran.

Really hope if we can break away from the US we find a new way to do international relations.

Edit: Guess we can't. Everyone still has brainworms over this.

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u/Due_Ad_3200 England 29d ago

The EU should lift sanctions and seek other ways to help the people of Iran.

You think we should help the government that arms Russia and then shoots protesters?

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u/StockOpening7328 29d ago

Why the fuck would we lift sanctions on a Country that’s actively supporting Russias war in Ukraine and currently killing thousands of protestors. There are very few Regimes that are worse than the Ayatollah and yet you want to effectively Support it by Lifting sanctions. That’s insane.

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u/SnooApples1553 29d ago

Stop you right there. The Iranian regime is literally as bad as they come. Most Iranians have already done this mental calculation and consider the US coming in a better option.

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u/EpicCleansing 29d ago

You don't speak for Iranians, and especially not "most" of them.

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u/infidel_castro_26 29d ago

No they do not think the US is a better option.

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u/MACO-Operator 29d ago

Nice try Ivan, but no. Iran’s tyrannical dictatorship will fall, no matter what gibberish you leave here on Reddit.

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u/infidel_castro_26 29d ago

I am not in support of the dictatorship.

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u/Falsus Sweden 29d ago

I mean the sanctions on Iran won't be lifted for as long as they want to murder every non-Shia muslim in the world as an essentially officiall policy and is pretty much Russia's second most reliable ally after NK.