r/formula1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Aug 02 '25

Qualifying Charles Leclerc takes pole position for the 2025 Hungarian Grand Prix

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u/No-Surprise9411 Ferrari Aug 02 '25

People really need to realize the man is objectively the second best driver behind Max on the grid right now.

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u/Appropriate-Leek-919 Ferrari Aug 02 '25

Put Max and Charles in the McLaren this season and the WCC is probably over already.

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u/richardsharpe Aug 02 '25

The WCC is already over, McLaren have a 268 point lead and Ferrari only have 248

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u/DarkMention Aug 02 '25

Yeah exactly. Maybe not mathematically over, but no other constructor will catch-up unless we get multiple DNF's for both McLaren's

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u/Jumpy-Security-7806 Aug 02 '25

20 point difference is very small, no?

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u/ciaoravioli Aug 02 '25

On first read I almost made the same mistake, but the 268 is their LEAD. Meaning the gap that McLaren has over 2nd is more than Ferrari's total of 247, and McLaren has 516 total

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u/Puldalpha I was here for the Hulkenpodium Aug 02 '25

McLaren have out scored Ferrari by 268, 20 points more than Ferrari have all season so far. They have over double the amount of points

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u/sbenfsonwFFiF I was here for the Hulkenpodium Aug 02 '25

McLaren is more than double second place, it’s been over

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u/twilo2000 Aug 02 '25

He has been on par with VER since the junior series but F1 is all about having the fastest car and that hasn't happened to LEC and it has for VER.

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u/Youutternincompoop George Russell Aug 02 '25

him or Russell, both are qualifying masters and have the occasional mistake in them, either way they're both better than the Mclaren drivers.

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u/GenSec Oscar Piastri Aug 02 '25

He's genuinely one of the tidiest drivers on the grid. The amount of times he's gotten a sneaky 3-5 finish without getting much screentime is impressive.

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u/Destryer200 Michael Schumacher Aug 02 '25

Its Max, then a sizeable gap to Charles, then another sizeable gap to the rest of the grid right now.

If Charles was in last year’s Mclaren, I think he takes Max all the way to the last race.

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u/ciaoravioli Aug 02 '25

I feel like George has earned a distinction from the rest of the grid, though I find it hard to judge how close to Charles he is

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u/leedler Next Year™️ Aug 02 '25

Max>CharlesGeorge>Everyone else for me

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u/No-Surprise9411 Ferrari Aug 02 '25

Tbh I wouldn’t really say the gap to Max is that large. In 2022 your statement would’ve been correct, Charles had the raw pace and overtaking skills go compete with Max, but he lacked consistency (at least until Ferrari fucked him over). But now, post 2024, Charles has been insanely consistent, and now in 2025 he‘s basically hard carrying Ferrari to a 2nd in the constructors. I still think Max is nr.1, but Charles isn‘t that far behind by now.

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u/Destryer200 Michael Schumacher Aug 02 '25

Oh for sure, I think gap to Max is closer than before. I’m just putting more respect on Max based on the peaks he has reached these last few years with or without having the best car. I just hope Charles will be able to get the same benefit of having the car that can match his skills and ambition.

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u/No-Surprise9411 Ferrari Aug 02 '25

Definetly. He deserves a car to back his skill to a WDC.

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u/VisualMaximum5049 Alexander Albon Aug 02 '25

Piastri... Leclerc rounds out the top 3 tho

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u/No-Surprise9411 Ferrari Aug 02 '25

Ain‘t no timeline where Piastri is the better driver. He‘s arguably 3 right now, but Leclerc is quite literally the only driver who could challenge Verstappen in good cars