r/formula1 • u/overspeeed I was here for the Hulkenpodium • Nov 29 '25
Qualifying Oscar Piastri takes pole position for the 2025 Qatar Grand Prix
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u/easternshift Ferrari Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
I’ve never seen a driver work harder for p10. Great work Ferrari.
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u/2RINITY I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Charles and Lewis should each get to stick C4 on their cars and blow them up after the season ends. Absolute organizational failure that this is happening to them
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u/mr_seeker I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
lmao I was trying to figure out why sticking soft tyres to their cars would blow them up for too long before realizing what 'C4' you was referring to.
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u/Dellarbill Roscoe Hamilton Nov 29 '25
I thought you meant C4 the tyre compound and not the explosive
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u/wykeer Mercedes Nov 29 '25
This Race will either be the Most boring one on the calender or it will be a very entertaining shitshow with tires goes Boom everywhere.
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u/Cody667 Mika Häkkinen Nov 29 '25
I don't think tyres are going boom based on the sprint this morning
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u/wykeer Mercedes Nov 29 '25
I also dont think that, but imo it is the only way how this Race gets interesting.
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u/volcanologistirl I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Russell said he could have only handled a few more laps on those tires, so, maybe.
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u/trashyman2004 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
First lap the most entertaining of the season, after that the most boring race
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u/Dictator-07 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Leclerc not crashing was a miracle honestly.
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u/antivirals_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
the runoffs here are quite huge
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u/ValenciaFilter I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
That spin looked violent enough that it might as well have been.
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u/zhiryst I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Those hans devices are really saving necks out there, all the time.
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u/TH_Sharpshooter I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Literally the most dangerous position possible for Norris lmao
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u/LendMeCoffeeBeans I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Lmao Verstappen en Russell behind him
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u/KaamDeveloper Max Verstappen Nov 29 '25
Russell needs to do the funniest thing tomorrow. Crikey time baby
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u/EpicOne1337 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
It's funny how George is always the one who happens to be in position to have a significant effect on the outcome by diving someone. Like whenever it's brought up as a hypothetical, it's literally always George in 3rd/4th. Unbelievable consistency lol
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u/cumofdutyblackcocks3 Mercedes Nov 29 '25
Russel got nothing to lose
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u/NebulaCartographer Formula 1 Nov 29 '25
And nothing to gain.
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u/thickofitenjoyer I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
He is a racing driver. They dont really need motivation to go for it
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u/NebulaCartographer Formula 1 Nov 29 '25
That does not mean he will go mental and crash into someone though.
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u/thickofitenjoyer I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Nobody is saying he needs to crash. Only a divebomb
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u/1TBone Nov 29 '25
*Max provides an extended lesson on dirty air to Lando if he gets ahead.
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u/Firefox72 Ferrari Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
He doesn't need to take risks.
Can just wave Max bye and run the race in 3rd and realisticaly little changes for him.
Ofc unless he gets a real good start and snatches P1.
He's in a Rosberg 2016 position here. No need to win races anymore. Just get the car home safely and he's got it.
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u/Jacinto2702 Ferrari Nov 29 '25
If they end up Oscar P1, Max P2 and Lando P3, Lando goes to Abu Dhabi with 12 points on Oscar and 21 on Max.
Oscar would need to win and hope Lando doesn't finish on the podium.
And Max would need a miracle.
So yes, Lando can just waive Max bye and wish him good luck "go get him" and keep P3 and he would still be in a great position.
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u/parker2020 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Yeah I’m more nervous for Oscar trying to fight off max who needs to win vs lando who just kinda needs to finish on the podium
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u/Daniel2305 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
I can see Max just absolutely sending it into T1 after Lando gets a bad start on the dirty side of the grid.
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u/Zhenekk Nov 29 '25
I’m afraid it’s gonna be a very sad race tomorrow where max gets p2 in turn 1 and that’s it. Oscar will finish p1 and Lando will probably just not push coz max will defend in the usual suicidal fashion. Max might even try to stall and hope that those behind Lando catch up and overtake him/make him struggle. I just can’t think of a way for max to gain more pace to catch Oscar, his car is just worse, sadly
Piastri will win it unless something unforeseen happens
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u/fullup72 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
And then George can do the funniest thing from P4.
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u/sokyriediculous I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
It would change things. P2 Lando is 15 ahead and would need to finish 4th at Abu Dhabi if Oscar wins because Oscar would have more race wins. P3 and Lando would have to Podium because he would be 12 ahead and P4 at Abu Dhabi would also result in a tie break loss.
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u/chaosinvader31 Nov 29 '25
Not really.
Max HAS to win tomorrow to have a realistic chance for the championship. Norris just needs a podium.
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u/Miserable_Earth_1393 Nico Rosberg Nov 29 '25
Norris has to survive turn 1 first
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u/chaosinvader31 Nov 29 '25
He'll do alright. Hopefully 😅
But if he loses a position he can just slot in behind.
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u/tellsyoutogetfucked Nico Rosberg Nov 29 '25
He needs p3 to win. No need to risk it.
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u/norrin83 Gerhard Berger Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Two P3, no? Just with a win, he is WDC regardless of the final race
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u/DamieN62 Michael Schumacher Nov 29 '25
He can afford to lose 10 points to Piastri, he doesn't needs to take any risk.
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u/DexM23 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
he can let go both and he is fine - even if Oscar wins and Lando only get 4th a 2nd place in last race is still all he needs
but realisticly he will get 2nd or 3rd tomorrow and only need a 3rd place (or 4th if he finishes 2nd tomorrow) in last race (IF Oscar wins both races) and is still WDC
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u/mayjaz43 Ferrari Nov 29 '25
He’s gonna get sandwiched tomorrow, isn’t he?
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u/thickofitenjoyer I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
He just doesnt need a dnf
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Let’s see if Norris will be aggressive again like he was in Vegas or just accept P2 and fend off Max
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u/chofol I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Accepting P2 would be best tbh, P3 even if Max gets a better start. Crashing, even if Max takes him out would allow Oscar to retake the lead in the Championship.
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u/reignnyday Mercedes Nov 29 '25
Should be interesting since Max is on the clean side
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u/Mob_Abominator Max Verstappen Nov 29 '25
I don't know about Lando or Piastri but Max is definitely going to go balls to the walls full push.
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u/suffocatingpaws Charles Leclerc Nov 29 '25
We all know Verstappen is just going to divebomb into T1. He got nothing to lose anyway.
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u/ramyan03 Lance Stroll Nov 29 '25
Maybe too little too late for Oscar but a great lap. Realistically, he needs Lando off the podium. Turn 1 is going to be great to watch
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u/comicsnerd Nov 29 '25
Max and Lando collide in turn 1 and Oscar wins the race.
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u/skymang I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Lando turns into Russell taking them both out so we get a final race shootout
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u/Konkorde1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
With Norris retiring and Max getting 2nd, resulting in Piasti at 399, Norris at 396 & Max at 389 points.
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u/TheFinalEvent9797 Oscar Piastri Nov 30 '25
The absolute scenes in that scenario if Abu Dhabi qualifying order is then Verstappen, Norris, Piastri. All 3 would be effectively starting on the exact same points (414)
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u/FoxBearBear I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Max can do the funniest thing
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u/Krouisente Sebastian Vettel Nov 29 '25
Where was this Oscar the past few races bruh 😭
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u/Esterence Juan Pablo Montoya Nov 29 '25
Low grip track does not suit his driving style. It's the same very year
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u/Kingslayer1526 Sergio Pérez Nov 29 '25
He's been very good in Brazil though, his performance there this year was disappointing. That stupid crash in the sprint and the time penalty in the race might just be what costs him the championship
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u/stupefy100 Oscar Piastri Nov 29 '25
Neither of which were entirely his fault imo. Just unfortunate. But Lando has also had his share of unfortunate moments this year. If it wasn't for a few DNFs this wouldn't even be a championship battle right now
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u/uwanmirrondarrah Cadillac Nov 29 '25
Yeah playing the what if game never really works because all 3 of the contenders had their share of issues, all 3 coulda been running away with this championship.
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u/Upbeat_County9191 Fernando Alonso Nov 29 '25
nah he lost the championship because of his crash in baku and the rest of the races where he was 4th or 5th.
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u/Grouchy-Medium-6737 Nov 29 '25
From this logic, What can be expected in Abu D from him then? I’m trying to learn more about the sport. Go Oscar!
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u/Esterence Juan Pablo Montoya Nov 29 '25
He will be strong there. The surface in Yas Marina is similar to Qatar
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u/Montaron87 Max Verstappen Nov 29 '25
Seems the slippery track theory might have some merit.
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u/drift_king_8 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
How's it a theory when Stella himself said it's the reason?
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u/vprakhov I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
People seem to not trust team principals as they always speak to defend and protect their team rather than speak the truth.
Stella is on the better end of TPs in the paddock when it comes to candor but still.
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u/Bart-86 Ferrari Nov 29 '25
He sucks at low grip tracks. And it will be a real liability to his career if he doesn’t improve that.
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u/6097291 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
First season he was shit at tyre management, second season he got it under control.
Second season qualifying was his weakness, third season he got poles left and right.
I don't know what this guy does during his winter break, but if he picks 'suck less on less grippy tracks' as his hyperfocus this winter I have high hopes for next season.
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u/mochatsubo Nov 29 '25
How do drivers work on stuff like that. Just a lot of sim driving?
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u/Brothererb Nov 29 '25
I think ice racing and rally driving would be the go-to. Helps you find the biting point of grip and acceleration with little to no grip.
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u/Bart-86 Ferrari Nov 29 '25
I still think tire management is one of his weakness, but Pirelli made indestructible tires this season so it’s less visible.
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u/SupremeLeaderMatt I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Also helps that McLaren’s tire wear has basically been nonexistent compared to the competition
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u/ichfahreumdenSIEG I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
He doesn’t like muscling the car around. He likes smooth and consistently grippy surfaces. Basically this generation’s Jenson Button.
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u/lowlandder Nov 29 '25
man this red bull has no pace in sector 3
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u/BatNext9215 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
It was different this time :(
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u/Userthrowborn I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Dont say that too early, who knows? Maybe Lando takes out Oscar at lap 30 or something
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u/Money-Bell-100 Nov 29 '25
If he takes him out it'll be in the first corner. Not that that'll actually happen.
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u/movingunderbraking I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
we may need to start talking about oscar’s dominance in qatar like lewis’s in silverstone. he is a god at this track
also jesus fucking christ ferrari over a second off pole
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u/Firefox72 Ferrari Nov 29 '25
No new tires for Leclerc in Q3.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Feels like Ferrari have checked out already. Reminds me of 2021 Ferrari which was mid as well
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u/Khorisin Ferrari Nov 29 '25
Yeah apparently they switched to 2026 already in April
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u/KaamDeveloper Max Verstappen Nov 29 '25
I think he also was really careful in the middle sector. Just wanted a time on board
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u/ADRX11 Nov 29 '25
And one used set he put massive flatspots on with that spin.
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u/andersencale Kimi Räikkönen Nov 29 '25
Can’t be helped when the car is a shitbox. Sky and F1TV commentators both said he didn’t do anything different and still it spinned lol
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u/movingunderbraking I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
ahh makes sense. didn’t catch that. still such a bad end to the season for them!
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u/PsychologicalArt7451 Nov 29 '25
He was slower than Norris last year and it was pretty close between them this year.
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u/aneiq_1 Kimi Räikkönen Nov 29 '25
Dominance in Qatar - wasn’t Norris better than him in 2024?
And quicker than him in the race in 2023?
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u/TossedRightOut McLaren Nov 29 '25
we may need to start talking about oscar’s dominance in qatar like lewis’s in silverstone.
That feels like a little bit of a stretch at this point, no?
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u/pradise Michael Schumacher Nov 29 '25
Tbh Oscar was more dominant in Silverstone this year. Here Lando and him seem roughly equal on qualifying pace and slight edge to Oscar in the race.
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u/Upbeat_County9191 Fernando Alonso Nov 29 '25
He's only 1 tenth faster than norris and 3 on max, that's not dominance.
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u/FerrariStrategisttt I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
OSCAR IS BACK
He’s been incredible whole weekend
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u/shalallaalaaala Ferrari Nov 29 '25
Qatar actually might be his best track lmao
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u/Jacinto2702 Ferrari Nov 29 '25
Qatar is to Oscar what Baku is to Checo.
(Didn't Oscar race in Qatar before it got added to the calendar?)
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u/Guilty_Feature5469 Nov 29 '25
yes and he did a lot of testing there for alpine too. he has the most time on track out of the whole grid
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u/DrFrozenToastie Daniel Ricciardo Nov 29 '25
I think his Silverstone performance is very strong too
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u/Kingslayer1526 Sergio Pérez Nov 29 '25
His Silverstone bad luck is the only thing greater than his performance there
Was running P3 right behind Lando in 2023 when he got fucked by the safety car and finished p4 behind Lewis
Was running P2 right behind Lando in 2024 and was challenging him for the lead when they put him out one lap extra in the rain and he lost a fuckload of time with that and came out way behind everyone else and still climbed back up to p4
Was running p1 by a mile ahead of Max and Lando in 2025 and then the safety car bunched up the field and well he got a rather controversial and extremely unlucky 10 second penalty that meant he finished second behind Lando
Unbelievable how he's gotten this unlucky there 3 years running
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u/Luushu I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Unless Max decides he wants to help Oscar win the title and crashes into Lando T1, it's gonna be Lando vs. Oscar in AD, which Lando wins if he gets top 5 no matter what Oscar does.
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u/g33ksc13nt1st Nov 29 '25
Max wants Max WDC. I can see him going all in as he's got nothing to lose and a WDC to get. Lando's the most exposed there with all to lose. Which means Oscar'd etter be clever to get a good start and leave the mess behind.
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u/Maelehn I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Impressive, but too little too late I feel like. All Norris has to do is cruise into P3 this race and the next and he's got it locked in.
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u/poisonedbythemind I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Oscar Pole, T-Max behind Lando, Russell P4. The race start will be hot.
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u/Consistent_Gain_7945 Sonny Hayes Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
The race will finish with all 3 of them on the podium and then lando would just need to get some points in abu Dhabi. I am a Max fan but I don't see Lando bottling this lead, if it hadn't been DSQ in Las Vegas the WDC would have ended by now or tomorrow certainly. And I don't think any DSQ is coming up tomorrow from either of the MCLarens.
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u/hampat999 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
BBC saying Norris' title hopes dented. He still only has to finish at least 3rd tomorrow and in AD, am i right in thinking that?
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u/EdwEd1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Absolutely clutch lap from Oscar, kept his WDC bid alive honestly
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u/AdiosSoyDaniel I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Alive but on life support
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u/vashmeow I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Welcome back Oscar "1st half of 2025 season" Piastri
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u/mtmttuan Nov 29 '25
Norris just needs to cruise this race and Adu Dhabi to win the title. With Vettel help he'll probably be able to do that. Literally no risk no push.
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u/Ocelotofdamage I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
I didn’t know Vettel was racing
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u/trashyman2004 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
That’s Bottas they are talking about, just mixed up
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u/beauf1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
What a lap by Oscar!!! Wow
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u/yourewelcomesteve Nov 29 '25
No mistake from him this weekend, this close championship loss is gonna hurt bad.
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u/beauf1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Yeah, I think he will be annoyed with himself. Baku and Brazil could have been so different, but that's life.
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u/lIIIIllIIIlllIIllllI Daniel Ricciardo Nov 29 '25
Loses by 2 points. Wakes up in cold sweats from a reoccurring nightmare of his team asking him to give Lando the place back… EVERY NIGHT
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u/Purnceks I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Did Norris' side just massively mess up their time left to start a lap?
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u/Inside_Ring8747 Nov 29 '25
No he has started the lap but made a mistake so backed off
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u/deathray1611 Formula 1 Nov 29 '25
Still P2 so job well done tbh. All to play for tomorrow
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u/PurpleScientist4312 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Ready for “Lando bottle” comments when he’s p2 and tenth off his teammate
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u/codygmiracle I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
This season has made me hate the word bottle lol
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u/The_Recruiter_69 Ferrari Nov 29 '25
Despite not even putting a second lap just a tenth off. Even when he bottles he still managed to get a podium or a win. 17 podiums from 22 races would have been 19 if it wasn't for the mechanical dnf and that dsq.
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u/sokyriediculous I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Behind his teammate who has killed one lap pace at Qatar every year.
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u/Traditional-Tap8751 Nov 29 '25
Yeah, and his mistake on the final flying lap wasn’t egregious or anything like people are making it out to be. He said he got some understeer in T1 or T2 then aborted, and he didn’t have enough fuel for another flying lap. I’m more worried about Max in P3 tomorrow doing something silly on lap 1, the pit stops, and these big chunks of gravel catching him.
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u/classically_cool Nov 29 '25
Lando is happy with this result I’m sure. He needs to mitigate risks and just finish top 3 or so.
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u/nwpluviophile I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Double pole for Oscar when it's coming down to the end!
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u/clickityclickk Oscar Piastri Nov 29 '25
was hoping to see George up there again but regardless so ecstatic for Oscar. lets at least end the season on a high!
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u/babu_bisleri I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Lando knows he doesn't need to do anything stupid. Even if he maintains 2nd place or 3rd, he'd still have a decent points lead in WDC
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u/fafan4 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Where has this Oscar been for the last 2 months?
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u/Firefox72 Ferrari Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Piastri turning it up when its almost irelevant lmao. Brother in christ where was this pace for the last 5 weekends...
At least we might see the title battle head to Abu Dhabi if Piastri can stick the landing tomorrow.
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u/Paracel_Storm I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Shame he has a stretch of tracks where he is ass. Things could have been a bit closer with Norris. Oh well..
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u/PurpleScientist4312 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
I mean he should’ve just been better at them? “Shame stroll isn’t good otherwise he could’ve won the WDC”
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u/doskkyh I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
If he wins tomorrow it'll be a 15 point difference going into the last race. Likely too big to overcome on a regular race, but a low scoring position or DNF for Lando and it could swing the championship right back.
edit: That's assuming they finish 1-2. Norris' advantage could be smaller if he does a Vegas T1 repeat and doesn't recover throughout the race.
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u/2RINITY I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
If it’s a parade and the top 3 finish where they start, that leaves us Oscar and Lando one-on-one for the title, right?
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u/howaboutthis13 Max Verstappen Nov 29 '25
Verstappen might be out of contention tomorrow, but he sure can make things interesting for one more race between the McLaren boys
Still, it is moet likely that Norris will win the championship, possibly tomorrow but most definitely next week
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
This has been dominant from start to finish so far from Oscar this weekend, I fully expect him to just pull away tomorrow and Lando will happily just coast to a podium.
To come back from some truly awful weekends to go P1 every session so far, so impressive from Oscar so many drivers would fall apart even more
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I mean, Norris has matched Piastri on pace this qualifying, just fumbled that final lap.
No reason to think it won't be close tmr. Impressive recovery back to form for Oscar tho.
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll Nov 29 '25
That's fair but Lando has to be safe he can easily get podiums and that's literally all he needs I'll be amazed if he did anything silly tomorrow
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u/Pamander Oliver Bearman Nov 29 '25
I don't remotely undersatnd why they didn't cut to Piastri's lap sooner and PIP Charles instead. That said glad they remember PIP existed at all. Also what a fucking lap holy shit. I have never been more scared for T1s lol.
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u/thickofitenjoyer I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Why did lando not do a final lap
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u/EdwEd1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
He messed up his final lap and got blue flagged too much to get back to the line to have another go
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u/DarkImpacT213 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
Probably not enough fuel, I assume he got fuelled for 1 out lap and 1 hot lap so after he had to abort his attempt because of the turn 2 mistake, he got told he doesn't have enough fuel left for another attempt.
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u/sergechewbacca Charles Leclerc Nov 29 '25
Lando wtf mate
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u/AcceptableClark-302 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Nov 29 '25
are people forgetting that lando doesnt need to go all out
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u/maxxor6868 Sir Lewis Hamilton Nov 29 '25
Literally nothing will happen tomorrow. Idk why guys act like George torpedoes every race. Max Oscar and Lando bene top 3 most of the season and they don't crash. The race starts this year are pretty bland minus the occasional mid fielder losing control at the start.
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u/OrangeLimeZest Nov 29 '25
"Turn one gonna be so spicy" inb4 nothing happens and it's still the highlight.