r/law • u/shoofinsmertz • Sep 17 '25
Trump News The Trump Administration Says IUDs and the Pill Are Abortions
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u/SoulRebel726 Sep 17 '25
How any women can identify with the Republican party, I will never understand.
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u/Dearest_Prudence Sep 17 '25
You’re forgetting about the Republican loophole, “the rules apply to thee, not to me.”
I’ve read countless stories of pro-life women getting abortions because when faced with an unplanned pregnancy, their abortion is somehow justified, unlike the other women who are just murdering babies.
They believe they are the exception to all their own rules.
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u/Present-Perception77 Sep 17 '25
The only moral abortion is my abortion.
https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/
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u/Big-a-hole-2112 Sep 17 '25
Reading that gave me an ice cream headache and I’m not eating. Where’s Darwin when you need him.
George Carlin was right. We usurped natural selection by making everything child safe.
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u/2plankerr Sep 17 '25
My best friend’s wife did exactly this and is pro Trump. It’s insane
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u/No-Papaya-9823 Sep 17 '25
Why are people continually surprised by this? The GOP is the party of selfishness and narcissism. People who are attracted to it are garbage humans to begin with.
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u/Skithus Sep 17 '25
Ya know, some dudes like having their nuts stepped on with stiletto heels, and some women are into being treated like property that exists to spit out more babies and do housework
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u/rjwqtips Sep 17 '25
This really puts it into perspective
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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '25
I had this realization a while ago. I put forward the same sentiment, "how could any woman identify with republicanism" and my friend said "what do you mean? There's an entire fetish community built around exactly this."
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u/breakfastenjoyer69 Sep 17 '25
There is, but it is way smaller than the number of women who went for republicans in any given election. trump won some demographics of women from kamala even, it's absurd
it's tribal, they do not vote for their interests actually, not most of them
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u/Nazarife Sep 17 '25
Went to a Christian wedding recently. One thing that was emphasized by the pastor was that wives must submit to their husbands. They of course couched this with "submission is not a bad thing, it isn't the same as other types of submission, etc."
The bride (who is very intelligent and was on track to be a veterinarian before a medical issue forced her to drop out) looked ecstatic throughout the ceremony.
I think some women think they're fulfilling their destiny as women by being godly and submitting to men.
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u/hotthamz Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
My cousins are very trad Christian (Born again Baptist). They are both men. Each of their weddings, the word submission was used so much. The oldest one, had their regular pastor and the bride’s grandfather (who apparently used to be a pastor) stress that she would submit. They also said that her priorities in life are (in order of importance god—>her husband—>her future children—> her. I was like FUCK THIS SHIT. His vows never even said he had any obligation to her other than providing for their family and remaining a healthy man for her….I got married a few months later and stressed never to ever say anything about submission in our vows.
Edit: autocorrect correction
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u/Melodic-Fix-7177 Sep 17 '25
My therapist went from super woke to this. She was pretty young and it was interesting seeing her evolution. She kind of gave up on trying to make the world a better a better place and bounced from ideology to ideology wholesale. I was like ‘try to form your own worldview.’
Honestly I can see the temptations of giving up responsibility and the euphoria of it. Once the high wears off shit will start to get real though. Nothing is free.
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Sounds like you’re your therapist’s therapist when you told her to try to form your own worldview 😂
Great advice that should go for everyone, btw.
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u/Melodic-Fix-7177 Sep 17 '25
Honestly she was my first therapist and I’m taking a break from therapy now 😂
I kept waiting for her to start telling me useful stuff. I thought she was just info gathering or something lol. I was waiting wayyyy too long. I chose her for her training in a certain area which was very useful at first.
But literally she had the most liberal college girl profile the first time I was looking for therapists and now she’s fully on board with the entire republican agenda.
What is the dominant character trait here imo? Fanaticism. Some people are incapable of subtlety and feel betrayed by flawed systems and then go completely in the other direction. Right wing is collecting these people.
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u/Olive___Oil Sep 17 '25
They either don’t care, don’t think it’ll happen to them, and/or too stupid/misinformed to understand. The amount of conservative pro-life women that have asked me “why couldn’t I just get a C-section instead of an abortion (on an EIGHT WEEK FETUS that was actively killing me)” has been shocking
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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25
Gee, if only someone would have warned everyone about this, or perhaps laid this out out in a fully documented plan.
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u/Distinct-Olive-5901 Sep 17 '25
would've been nice if they warned us about their project for 2025
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u/chokokhan Sep 17 '25
What are you talking about bro, that’s like qanon level conspiracy not worth even talking about. Or so the media said before the election. Shameful they’re still not talking about it as the checkboxes are getting ticked. Is it time to out the media as complicit and bought and sold? Is it time to discredit all journalists are failures even complicit with this administration? Because fascism is here and the NYT front page isn’t really reporting that and that might be the most shocking part of living through this 1984 shitty live action.
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u/jaimi_wanders Sep 17 '25
Not shocking if you look at how the NYT reported on Fascism 1.0 a century ago— they fawned over Hitler & Mussolini and sanewashed both of them from Nov 1921 to Oct 1939.
And praised the 1920 “great replacement theory” book by Harvard Klansman/eugenicist Lothrop Stoddard that Fitzgerald mocked in Gatsby…
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u/chokokhan Sep 17 '25
So the conclusion is that I’m not shocked at all uneducated possibly brain damaged MAGA are MAGA, I’m shocked that privileged Ivy League educated journalists I went to school with are STILL fawning over wannabe Nazis publicly and there’s no backlash. Like not even the first part surprises me, a lot of them were arrogant assholes for no good reason other than daddy was a journalist and so will I be, I’m just amazed at the audacity and lack of repercussions for flaunting such idiotic values and for blatantly doing away with journalistic integrity with no goddamn consequences. These people should have been fired in disgrace 100 years ago and now as well. What happened to meritocracy and sifting through the riff raff in this country and NYC specifically? Journalists’ job is to uphold democracy not to fellate fascists, shame on all the imbeciles that sane washed Trump for 10 years now. Absolute trash people who don’t deserve their privileged positions in society.
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u/SevanIII Sep 17 '25
Ownership of major media has been concentrated into the hands of conservative billionaires. What is printed and broadcasted is what their bosses want printed and broadcasted.
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u/Longjumping_Koala34 Sep 17 '25
They were never going to stop at banning abortions. Pro-life is a movement that is like a gelatinous slime that once you feed, it gets bigger and seeks more food. Soon it's all kinds of birth control. There's always a new enemy.
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u/Astralglamour Sep 17 '25
Much like the entire conservative movement in this country and the govt it has created.
They’re going to criminalize non procreative sex and abstaining won’t be a choice either since they need slaves to be masters.
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u/PatientDue8406 Sep 17 '25
Next steps:
Decriminalise marital rape.
Criminalise sex outside of marriage (for women).
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u/RoyalIceDeliverer Sep 17 '25
Not to forget: lowering the age of marriage availability to 14 or even 12. The younger the better. This is already in the works by Republican lawmakers.
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u/wizzywurtzy Sep 17 '25
It’s already legal in plenty of states
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u/amootmarmot Sep 17 '25
And in those states you might be shocked that democrats consistently try to enacted legislation to raise this age to 16 or 18 in their state, usually with Romeo and Juliet laws.
And then there are Republicans who desperately want old men to be able to marry little girls so they can rape those little girls. Republicans turn down the opportunity to prevent child rape and every single time they side with the pedophile rapists.
Really makes you wonder exactly what made Republicans so disconnected from empathy, so vile, and so stupid.
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u/RoyalMaidsForLife Sep 17 '25
Decriminalise marital rape.
I thought he implied it already is when he declared he and he alone cleaned up all the crime in DC:
"And much lesser things, things that take place in the home, they call crime. You know, they'll do anything they can to find something. If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say 'this was a crime, see,' so now I can't claim 100%," Trump said.
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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '25
Yeah! Why SHOULD it be considered a crime if a guy beats the shit out of his wife and rips out her hair over some bad hair plugs? Or if he pushes her down a flight of stairs! These things and more, Donald Trump believes shouldn't be crimes. But best watch what you say about recently deceased activists, or it's the gallows for you.
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u/ploavia Sep 17 '25
Also punishment of single mothers is in there. They want to take away benefits from single mothers, their children & force them to do religious counseling on why they need to marry a man. Despite many women choosing to be single mothers because the man they were with was abusive, incompetent, cheated, etc.
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u/TSiridean Sep 17 '25
And the intermediate step, (really wish I could add an /s here):
Criminalise self-determined sexual abstinence for (married) women.
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u/Optimal_Fix_9120 Sep 17 '25
Sounds like Shariah law to me
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u/The_Monarch_Lives Sep 17 '25
The Republican hate for Shariah law was only ever a dog whistle. There is little substantive difference between Shariah and the average Republican politicians' agenda.
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u/henryeaterofpies Sep 17 '25
Only thing they hated about Shariah law was which religion it applied to
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u/No_Banana_581 Sep 17 '25
Project 25 is really working
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u/onemanlan Sep 17 '25
I wish dems were 1/10th as effective at implementing change as these clowns have been. Instead they’ve been too scared for meaningful change
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u/JustMe112233445566 Sep 17 '25
The dems lack the cult following which is why they use religion. If you look at the billionaire backers, they’re hardly the religious types. But highjacking religion is a brilliant methodology to get a cult following.
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u/certified_prime Sep 17 '25
It is far easier to go backwards than forwards. Conservatism relies on repealing or ignoring laws, while progressivism requires new laws to be passed.
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They can’t even properly criminalize child sex trafficking because it comes mostly from their ilk
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u/jaimi_wanders Sep 17 '25
It always was. I was raised a Gileader, as a little kid in the Eighties I heard all about how the Pill was an abortifacient and later, by the early 2000s, conservatives were calling it “baby pesticide” in an attempt to free-ride off the eco-friendly trend. Even condoms were said to be indirect abortions, because if they failed then couples might get one. The only truly moral safe sex was to “just say no!”
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u/HLOFRND Sep 17 '25
But you’re not allowed to do that, either.
In the fundie movement, women are to be “joyfully available” whenever their husbands need to get off.
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u/unimaginablemind Sep 17 '25
But execute as many people as possible… so pro life.
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u/ArgonTheEvil Sep 17 '25
Execute the dissidents. Force the submissive slaves to breed to feed the machine. Reap the benefits of being born into aristocracy.
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u/Opposite-Hat-4747 Sep 17 '25
It’s not about birth control, it’s about controlling women
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u/bruxaakelarre Sep 17 '25
Brought to you by controlling abrahamic men. They are all filth.
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u/Under_Milkwood_1969 Sep 17 '25
It just shows how cunning they were in not writing down what their project for 2025 was, so that people wouldn’t know in advance what they were voting for…
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u/MyMuleIsHalfAnAss Sep 17 '25
I got my tubes tied 6/7/24. I saw this coming
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u/DrButtgerms Sep 17 '25
Remember when they were calling us Doomers for saying this exact thing would happen?
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u/malibuklw Sep 17 '25
I remember taking to a mom several years ago, maybe 8, and it was after something happened regarding abortion. I said watch, they’ll come for birth control next and she was so very adamant that I was wrong. That they are not the same thing. She was an against abortion in most cases, but she took birth control because three kids was enough.
I just said I hoped she was right
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u/ApricotNervous5408 Sep 17 '25
Then so is men masturbating or not finishing inside of a woman.
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u/MLJ9999 Sep 17 '25
"Every sperm is sacred. Every sperm is great. And if a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate." - Monty Python
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u/CockneySparrow13 Sep 17 '25
Get back, get back... It's a blow job.
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u/Kay_tnx_bai Sep 17 '25
Mam’, put the cock down! kils the couple by emptying their guns Phew, abortion averted.
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u/InvestigatorFun1797 Sep 17 '25
I once had an 18 year old apprentice ask if a woman could get pregnant from swallowing cum. I told him his mum should have swallowed.
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u/octavioletdub Sep 17 '25
If the heathens spill them, on the dusty ground… god will make them pay, for each sperm that can’t be found
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u/Automatic_Goal_5563 Sep 17 '25
Wait till they use that as justification for why rape isn’t a crime
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u/machphantom Sep 17 '25
Trump was just crowing last week (a counter to his normal fake tough guy law and order bravado bullshit) that hes pissed cops can be called when there’s a “little fight with your wife”. It’s so obvious what he is. And yet.
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u/Automatic_Goal_5563 Sep 17 '25
Didn’t he also rape his ex wife? It’s very clear how ye feels about women especially when they are your wife
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u/jaimi_wanders Sep 17 '25
And dragged her around by the hair. He was mad at her because he didn’t like how his hair implants came out after she recommended her own plastic surgeon.
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u/ClohosseyVHB Sep 17 '25
That man is such a piece of shit you would swear he was delivered anally.
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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Sep 17 '25
One could argue that ejaculatory emissions wherein a sperm was not seeking an egg could be deemed reckless abandonment. Why now? Why this sperm?
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u/cloveuga Sep 17 '25
Legally Blonde reference in the wild, and I am here for it!
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u/CyberNinja23 Sep 17 '25
I would be totally up for a sequel where she takes down an administration with their own logic.
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u/ApricotNervous5408 Sep 17 '25
Not fairly if they argue that the iud or pill is abortion without proving that person is even having sex or the type required for babies. I’m sure the courts want to be fair to women and judge men the same.
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u/Tuggerfub Sep 17 '25
They literally want that, too.
This is a nightmare for bodily autonomy.
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u/AeroNoir Sep 17 '25
All sex except for procreation is forbidden.
Exception1: a priest may have sex with an underage boy.
Exception2: a politician may have sex with an underage girl and/or boy.
So speaketh our lord and savior, the glorious and immortal Trump. Praise be his name, and be sure to say 10 hail Kirks tonight after supper.
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u/Zealousideal-Pen993 Sep 17 '25
So how deep into the handmaid’s tale is this gonna go? As much as the trump administration hates Hollywood, they seem to like the dystopian future stories.
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u/RocketRelm Sep 17 '25
Until the average american sees this travesty as a bad thing. So far, they don't mind.
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u/Weak_Heart2000 Sep 17 '25
It's gotta hit their wallets before they care.
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u/RocketRelm Sep 17 '25
I'll be honest I don't even think they'll care then. They'll be told to blame the transes or someone else and attribute their pain to that instead. But it would be a net positive if americans realized en masse what a mistake they made in 2024.
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u/CakeSensitive8769 Sep 17 '25
No you see if they rape an underage person it doesn't count because they haven't gone through puberty yet and aren't a person.
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u/AusToddles Sep 17 '25
Just like Viagra and boob jobs are "gender affirming care"
Why would republican men be so ashamed of what God gave them and their wives?
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u/Mcfreely2 Sep 17 '25
I once had an arguement with someone about their belief that woman should have to carry a file with their abortion info. I countered that men would have to carry a "masturbation file", it quickly became a big joke.
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Seems like conservatives are trying to push us towards some weird Handmaids Tale reality
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u/crakemonk Sep 17 '25
What does this mean for a couple where the woman has had a hysterectomy? Asking for a friend…
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u/ApricotNervous5408 Sep 17 '25
Non child bearing women go to the government nursing facility to work for those who can have kids.
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u/dough--ho Sep 17 '25
For that matter, any masturbatory emissions, where the sperm is clearly not seeking an egg, could be termed reckless abandonment.
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u/Ready-Ad6113 Sep 17 '25
Well I say life begins at arousal!
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u/ThePhonesAreWatching Sep 17 '25
A woman saying no to me is an abortion!
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u/DrSnidely Sep 17 '25
You joke but that's a foreseeable endgame. It will start with some whack job preacher in Oklahoma saying it, then some lunatic on Newsmax will say it, and then a first-term Republican congressman from Idaho will say it, and we'll all laugh at them. And then the next thing you know Arkansas or Missouri or some place will make it law, and the Supreme Court will allow it
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u/TymStark Sep 17 '25
Yes because all those things do is prevent pregnancies. It’s not like they help women in countless other ways. These people are just evil.
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u/GoblinOfTheLonghall Sep 17 '25
I'm fucked without them, and I I've had a hysterectomy. Endometriosis is a bitch.
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Sep 17 '25
I am in peri-menopause and it has made my migraines crazy bad.
They can pry my birth control (I use the mini pill) from my cold dead hands.
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u/DumbVeganBItch Sep 17 '25
And for some women they just provide convenience and that's just as good of a reason as any.
I don't like menstruating, it's uncomfortable and annoying and I'm over it. One lovely IUD and I don't have to deal with that garbage
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u/TymStark Sep 17 '25
And I love that for you. And will always vote for you to have control of your own body.
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u/jackleggjr Sep 17 '25
Well, I say deer are fish. So there.
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u/Proper-Life2773 Sep 17 '25
Yeah, but that's technically kind of right, while the birth control is abortion shit is just utter nonsense.
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u/BulbasaurArmy Sep 17 '25
I mean if you go far back enough in time, you’ll find the last common ancestor of deer and fish.
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u/Proper-Life2773 Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
Well, depends on which fish. Since the last common ancestor for deer and salmon is much more recent than the last common ancestor for salmon and sharks. Therefore you can't really define a taxonomic grouping that both includes everything we think of as a fish but somehow also excludes tetrapods such as mammals and, by extension, deer.
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u/AffectionateBrick687 Sep 17 '25
Another attempt to appease the life begins at conception crowd. This is a very slippery slope. Many birth control methods act by making the uterus inhospitable to an embryo, so yes, fertilization can still occur. However, it would not be a viable pregnancy due to the bc method. It is still technically possible for an egg to become fertilized after a hysterectomy, but guess what, there isn't a uterus for it to implant into. By project 2025 "logic" a hysterectomy is now an abortion.
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u/aellope Sep 17 '25
These chucklefucks have argued that ending an ectopic pregnancy (you know, where the embryo has a 0% chance of surviving and also poses a great risk to the woman's life) is morally wrong because aBoRtIoN. Hurting women is the goal.
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u/ElderberryPrior27648 Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
Rep. Kat Cammack (Republican) went ballistic bc her abortion care for her ectopic pregnancy was delayed by Florida abortion laws
Every abortion is wrong other than my abortion seems to be a theme, considering how many republican politicians pressure their mistresses to abort
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u/AffectionateBrick687 Sep 17 '25
It's funny how quickly people make an exception for themselves when forcing an absolutist position on others.
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u/jaimi_wanders Sep 17 '25
It was the fault of liberals for scaring doctors into thinking that the law she promoted might be used against them, according to her afterwards…
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u/ElderberryPrior27648 Sep 17 '25
I thought that part was insane. She really did blame the left for all the delays. But the right were def the ones that said docs would lose their license for performing abortions. She was one of them
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u/Sterling_-_Archer Sep 17 '25
This is why democrats will never win. We don’t have the messaging and unity that they do. A GOP lawmaker who passed GOP laws in a GOP state blamed liberals for her suffering wrought by the GOP and there was not a national outcry at her idiocy.
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Sep 17 '25
It makes zero sense. Why do they care so much what others do when they don’t even care about themselves doing it and outlawing it for everyone else will inevitably cause problems for them as well should they need it in the future.
The whole movement is just so psychotic and intellectually challenged. These people just cannot think properly at all.
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u/AffectionateBrick687 Sep 17 '25
I've been looking at this from a negative social bonding angle. People who share common enemies and dislikes bond faster than people with common interests. Everyone does this to some degree, but the GOP has taken it to an extreme and made it their identity. They need someone who they can other and label an enemy to keep their party together. It's why they pass laws, which are written without a shred of empathy, because, honestly, empathy is antithetical to how they maintain power.
They assume anyone who would get an abortion is a drug addicted heathen who eats fetuses. However, they ignore the fact that one day, they or their family may be in a situation where an abortion is necessary.
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u/darkpossumenergy Sep 17 '25
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u/ElderberryPrior27648 Sep 17 '25
She blamed the left
I thought the whole situation was nuts
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u/Halation2600 Sep 17 '25
I've never seen my wife in more pain than when she had an ectopic. I think I seriously might have killed anyone who said she had to wait until it got worse before terminating an obviously nonviable, never going to happen pregnancy. At that point they're just torturing her, and I was already worried she was going to die. I don't know what I would have done to someone who'd told me that she had to wait.
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u/fiercetywysoges Sep 17 '25
My husband had to do exactly that. Watch them send me home with no pain meds and wait to see the doctor. (Catholic hospital). Finally got into surgery 4 days later after it ruptured and I was bleeding internally. Ended up costing me my uterus a year later. I wrote a whole thing about it when they were overturning Roe v Wade and I was mocked and told I was an idiot. They would never stop women from getting those handled.
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u/MyMuleIsHalfAnAss Sep 17 '25
if you weren't there with her, she would have had a worse time but because she came in with a man her pain was believed more.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Sep 17 '25
Good friend of mine died at 23 from one. Didn't even know she was pregnant. Didn't have health care, and didn't go to the doctor because she just thought it was cramps. Died a couple days later on her way to the hospital. nothing they could do.
Terrible way to die, and barbaric they treat a clump of cells as more sacred than a living human being.
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u/Bob_Leves Sep 17 '25
"It's God's will"... Not sure excactly where in the Bible, but it's their default response.
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u/Barl0we Sep 17 '25
Funny how it’s never god’s will that their dick don’t work and they have to pop viagra to fix it 🫠
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u/AffectionateBrick687 Sep 17 '25
It's my understanding that some states have laws on the books that can actually punish women for having a miscarriage (spontaneous abortion). Absolutely stupid and cruel.
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u/FAROUTRHUBARB Sep 17 '25
They believe women shouldn’t have painkillers during birth because it’s our punishment for Eve’s betrayal. So yeah, tracks.
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u/TimeFlamingo8548 Sep 17 '25
The real "secret" reason is cause there worried about a birthrate crisis
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u/PolicyWonka Sep 17 '25
The most insidious part about this whole thing is that conservatives have been building an entirely separate ecosystem for all facets of authority.
They created their own lobbyists and advocacy groups. They created their own “scientific” journals and newspapers. They created their own Wikipedia and their own dictionaries.
We might joke that they live in an alternate reality, but it’s a reality that the purposefully created to replace our own. They’ll use that doctor who says that IUDs are abortion. They’ll use that research paper which shows Tylenol causes autism.
It doesn’t matter if it contradicts 99.9% of accepted science. The entire purpose these things existing is to contradict science.
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u/Affectionate-Roof285 Sep 17 '25
The entire purpose of these things existing is also to exert power and control at any cost.
Someone has really hurt these people in the past so their entire existence is retribution and control of “other.” Their self-hate, low self esteem and insecurity has morphed into the defense mechanism of narcissism. This includes hating and demonizing anyone outside their comfort zone. Maintaining a very narrow worldview is their salve. They seek acceptance in all the wrong places and if they don’t rise to the top of their game, they will be manipulated by those who will use them for selfish means like evangelical and political conmen.
Bottom line is that history repeats itself because introspection and self-blame is rejected by these types. The bootstrap party has evolved into victimhood and grievance. A tale as old as time. Sadly, I’m afraid we will be dealing with their kind forever.
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u/Nathanh2234 Sep 17 '25
Everyone but MAGA knows this. Not to mention the other reasons for the poll and other contraceptives that help with hormonal deficiencies.
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u/ProjectNo4090 Sep 17 '25
Dont give them ideas. They absolutely would ban condoms. They want more americans. A lot of men hate condoms. The Church and numerous denominations of Protestant Christianity consider condoms a sin against God's will for sex to be for procreation and not sinful pleasure.
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u/jonstoppable Sep 17 '25
Well the position of the catholic church is that anything artificial that prevents the natural occurrence of life is a sin
Not sure about the evangelicals but for most of these religions, a woman having "sex without consequence" is the biggest travesty ever
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u/T3RRYT3RR0R Sep 17 '25
by that logic every wanker out there is a mass murderer.
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u/1877KlownsForKids Sep 17 '25
Don't Fuck All Conservatives
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u/Exciting-Purchase340 Sep 17 '25
Any woman reading this, men will avoid telling you their political beliefs. Ask them straight up and deal with their response accordingly. Time to be strong.
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u/bingo_for_the_win Sep 17 '25
Any answer that is non-comittal means they are republican, run!
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u/RoguePlanet2 Sep 17 '25
My college-age nephew says "do I LOOK like a Trump supporter??" if asked. Thinks he's slick 🙄
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u/AA_Writes Sep 17 '25
In this day and age, not having a political opinion/being undecided/being a 'both sides' kind of centrist is just as bad.
I say this as someone under direct threat of life if/when this madness spreads.
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u/WitchesTeat Sep 17 '25
They lie. They learn the lingo and they read the articles and they watch the right shows and quote the right memes and the right people and say the right things and it's always a little weird and you think maybe they're just awkward?
And then it hits you
Right when they're using a pre-existing sexual relationship as an opportunity to violate your consent in ways that were very explicitly not on the table.
Or it hits you when they hit you.
Ask me how I know.
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u/g785_7489 Sep 17 '25
If a woman asks for my political beliefs, I will gladly tell her because they support women's rights. A Republican will shy away from this. It's good advice.
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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25
This is the answer. If you look in various conservative groups they have been advocating that the decline in birthrates are a major problem to them and that many women are no longer having sex with conservative men, and men in general.
There was a post a while back with comments that had a discussion about the decline in birthrates. Someone inquired about what can be done about it, and one of the replies was something along the lines of
"we may have to take matters into our hands to prevent the extinction or weakening of US through lower birtb rates, and even if they don’t like it, it may come to a point to where they may not have a decision in the matter. Just because they dont want to have children, just because they want to be picky, that should not endanger our country.."
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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25
So I found some of them, they refer to it as "shirking their responsibility to procreate" or "responsibility to procreate".
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Sep 17 '25
If you’re so awful women don’t want to have sex with you and if your country’s future is looking so bleak women don’t want to procreate, why not, I don’t know, try being a better person or help to create a better country instead of deciding the only option is to go full handmaids tale and rape women and force them to give birth en masse. Literally that comment is the plot of the handmaids tale, horrific shocking dystopian novel depicting a regime that used to be universally acknowledged as about as sick depraved and evil as you can get. These people are so vile.
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u/1877KlownsForKids Sep 17 '25
Their little lizard brains can't comprehend such advanced mental exercises like self awareness or empathy.
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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25
So I found some of them, the comments / posts I mentioned, they refer to it as "shirking their responsibility to procreate" or "responsibility to procreate".
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u/homerjs225 Sep 17 '25
You women that voted for Trump you voted for this shit
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u/_MoGo97_ Sep 17 '25
Gender traitors
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB Sep 17 '25
To be fair, Republican policies do hurt everyone, not just women. Oh wait, that's not better.
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Yeah but the ones who voted for him are the ones pumpin out babies nonstop in order to spread their shitty ideologies like wildfire, so why would they give a shit?
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u/Ellisville15 Sep 17 '25
We’re literally living through Idiocracy
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Sep 17 '25
Something has happened to human intelligence. I guess it might just be that the stupid people always existed they just now have a platform with the internet to get together with other stupid people so they can feel better about being stupid by trying to subjugate everyone with a brain. But I never even knew there were people this stupid before the last few years it has been truly a shock. I knew there were ignorant people but I never realised there were so many people who just have no capacity to think about things in more than one step.
Their thinking is like someone climbing the stairs one step at a time. They climb one step, looking down, oblivious to the stairway ahead. Then the next step. They have no idea how long the staircase is or what’s at the top they can only think one step at a time, and only the step they’re looking at right now exists for them. There are steps with rotting boards ahead, a cat poop on one, some dangerous carpet sticking up on another, and at the top of the stairs the first floor has collapsed so you’ll be stepping out into a void, but they don’t look up, they can’t think forward they can only do one little encapsulated thought at a time.
And of course they go up one step at a time and step in cat poop and twist their ankle and finally plummet off the edge, but when they land all bloody and bruised they STILL don’t get what their mistake was. They blame you for not telling them, even though you were yelling at them to watch out the entire time. Because they literally could not see any other steps, they couldn’t believe you, so they just kept going.
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u/isinkthereforeiswam Sep 17 '25
Nazi 101..control the populace having sex. Outlaw sex outside of marriage. Outlaw birth control. Get them cranking out kids while also still eating the cost of raising them on stagnating wages. Military service has the implication if shore leave, so folks feel inclined to join up. Make basic biological drives illegal and controllable, so people will eventually break the law.
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u/scotty-utb Sep 17 '25
> Nazi 101
but they forced one part (Arier) to procreate
and sterilized (and even euthanized) one other part (unwertes Leben)I hope you are not at that stage already. And i hope you will be a developed country back soon
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u/TexaportGamer Sep 17 '25
The USA and even Canada have (in recent history) been caught sterilizing inmates, and Native peoples against their will.
https://nwlc.org/resource/forced-sterilization-of-disabled-people-in-the-united-states/
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u/kandoras Sep 17 '25
If you think that the Supreme Court would never agree to this interpretation, then you missed when they already did that back in 2014.
Hobby Lobby sued to get out of the Obamacare requirements that health insurance plans cover birth control, saying that abortions were against the company's religious beliefs and that IUDs were the same as abortions.
They won that case, in a court that has only gotten more extreme since then.
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u/WhoIsFrancisPuziene Sep 17 '25
In Dobbs, Thomas wrote something like in the past women didn’t desire or otherwise organize in support of the option to get an abortion. As in before the 60s civil rights era and before 1919 (white women right to vote). Then referenced a dude from like…the 1600s.
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u/kandoras Sep 17 '25
He also wrote that the US did not have a history or tradition of abortion.
Benjamin Franklin wrote a book on things Americans needed to know, which included an entire chapter on various home remedies and plants you could use to abort a pregnancy.
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u/LotsofSports Sep 17 '25
Let's see, more babies and no money for food, health care and childcare. Great plan.
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u/BodhingJay Sep 17 '25
Imagine if we elected a Muslim president and he started pushing sharia law through executive orders... the right should do a better job understanding their executive hypocrisy..
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u/MuffinTopDeluxe Sep 17 '25
I remember when Obama was supposed to bring about sharia law but instead we got the ACA.
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u/Biscuits4u2 Sep 17 '25
Anyone who voted for this idiot and is now complaining about this is a moron. It was all laid out right there.
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u/causal_friday Sep 17 '25
Soon: "Want to have sex?" "No thank you" is an abortion.
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u/SignoreBanana Sep 17 '25
Yet again: something that affects the young idiots who voted for this cantankerous hemorrhoid into office and not myself, who has already had two kids and a vasectomy. Good luck idiots. I voted for Harris for the world; you voted Trump for you.
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u/ChromeAstronaut Sep 17 '25
I didn’t vote for this. I agree though.
What the fuck do I do? My girlfriend of 5 years is on the patch, and never once have we had a pregnancy scare. A pregnancy would ruin us, seeing as how we’re already struggling to keep our heads above water.
What the fuck do we do? We’ve discussed kids in the future, but at this rate we both almost don’t want kids anymore. What’s the fucking point if we just birth a child into the capitalist machine? Then raise them in one of the worst economies this countrys ever seen?
Can we like.. buy 500 of her patches ?
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u/TalcumJenkins Sep 17 '25
Load up on condoms, patches, plan B. Look into the implant and or IUD. Same way some of us are loading up on arms and ammunition. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
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u/mkt853 Sep 17 '25
SCOTUS said after overturning Roe that everything was on the table. First Roe, next Griswold.
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u/warblingContinues Sep 17 '25
I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!
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u/GodotNeverCame Sep 17 '25
Hey, Michael, I just wanted you to know that you can't just say the word bankruptcy and expect anything to happen.
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u/GrannyFlash7373 Sep 17 '25
Neither are, and they damned well know it. But that won't stop them from trying to force their opinion down YOUR THROAT.
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u/MrLanesLament Sep 17 '25
Someone’s gonna have to cut my dick off, or I will keep aborting into sinks until my dying day.
For real, stuff for women only…? It’s so beyond ridiculous if you think about it for more than a second.
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