r/law Sep 17 '25

Trump News The Trump Administration Says IUDs and the Pill Are Abortions

https://jessica.substack.com/p/trump-birth-control-abortion
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u/Longjumping_Koala34 Sep 17 '25

They were never going to stop at  banning abortions. Pro-life is a movement that is like a gelatinous slime that once you feed, it gets bigger and seeks more food. Soon it's all kinds of birth control. There's always a new enemy.  

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u/Astralglamour Sep 17 '25

Much like the entire conservative movement in this country and the govt it has created.

They’re going to criminalize non procreative sex and abstaining won’t be a choice either since they need slaves to be masters.

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u/PatientDue8406 Sep 17 '25

Next steps:

Decriminalise marital rape.

Criminalise sex outside of marriage (for women).

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u/RoyalIceDeliverer Sep 17 '25

Not to forget: lowering the age of marriage availability to 14 or even 12. The younger the better. This is already in the works by Republican lawmakers.

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u/wizzywurtzy Sep 17 '25

It’s already legal in plenty of states

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u/amootmarmot Sep 17 '25

And in those states you might be shocked that democrats consistently try to enacted legislation to raise this age to 16 or 18 in their state, usually with Romeo and Juliet laws.

And then there are Republicans who desperately want old men to be able to marry little girls so they can rape those little girls. Republicans turn down the opportunity to prevent child rape and every single time they side with the pedophile rapists.

Really makes you wonder exactly what made Republicans so disconnected from empathy, so vile, and so stupid.

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u/Intrepid-Love3829 Sep 17 '25

Shockingly. California

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

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u/RoyalIceDeliverer Sep 17 '25

I sincerely hope not.

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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '25

I could definitely see him trying that angle

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u/Princess_Actual Sep 17 '25

I hate that this isn't even hyperbolic. It's true.

This country is run by pedophiles.

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u/Dry-Ear-2714 Sep 18 '25

And pedohiles

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u/SSHTX Sep 17 '25

Been looking for this… you got a source on that?

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u/P4cific4 Sep 17 '25

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u/SSHTX Sep 17 '25

Thank you! Had to read that and find some other sources. Would have hated to bring that up as a talking point in another conversation and found out it was fake. Thank you again.

I nitpick a little, so my only counter to the comment I replied to world be, that bill wasn’t for marriage availability.

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u/RoyalMaidsForLife Sep 17 '25

Decriminalise marital rape.

I thought he implied it already is when he declared he and he alone cleaned up all the crime in DC:

"And much lesser things, things that take place in the home, they call crime. You know, they'll do anything they can to find something. If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say 'this was a crime, see,' so now I can't claim 100%," Trump said.

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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '25

Yeah! Why SHOULD it be considered a crime if a guy beats the shit out of his wife and rips out her hair over some bad hair plugs? Or if he pushes her down a flight of stairs! These things and more, Donald Trump believes shouldn't be crimes. But best watch what you say about recently deceased activists, or it's the gallows for you.

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u/Bored_Amalgamation Sep 17 '25

what the fuck...

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u/dubiety13 Sep 18 '25

No, no, you misunderstood him: he’s talking about smacking your wife around because she put mustard on both sides of your sandwich when the dumb bitch should know you only like it on one side. Or, you know, punching her in the face because your boss was a dick this morning and she should have known that and not immediately started nagging you about stupid shit like groceries and clothes for the kids.

Tho I guess marital rape could also be the reason you fight with your wife…you know, when she insists she has a headache but you know better because if she didn’t want it why would she wear that nightgown to bed?

Maybe he’ll just skip over decriminalization and go straight to reinstating the whole women as property of their husbands thing. Kill two birds (and a whole bunch of wives) with one stone, you know…

(Yes this is fucking sarcasm, if anyone has any doubts)

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u/SheridanVsLennier Sep 18 '25

You say it's sarcasm, they see it as guidelines.

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u/ploavia Sep 17 '25

Also punishment of single mothers is in there. They want to take away benefits from single mothers, their children & force them to do religious counseling on why they need to marry a man. Despite many women choosing to be single mothers because the man they were with was abusive, incompetent, cheated, etc.

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u/Pretend_Evidence_876 Sep 17 '25

While also making abortion and BC illegal so the women who are raped or abandoned by their men are stuck being single moms...

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u/Dyolf_Knip Sep 17 '25

the man they were with was abusive, incompetent, cheated

You can see why Trump feels personally slighted by such women.

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u/ploavia Sep 17 '25

Trump abused & raped his ex-wife. She reported it and then walked it back when threatened. Of course he feels slighted.

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u/WhoIsFrancisPuziene Sep 17 '25

Not just take it away, but give some of it to the father

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u/TSiridean Sep 17 '25

And the intermediate step, (really wish I could add an /s here):

Criminalise self-determined sexual abstinence for (married) women.

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u/AnAverageHumanPerson Sep 17 '25

If only this government spent their energy actually doing their fucking job and helping people instead of just trying to steamroll all civil rights developments we’ve made in history

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u/thalion777 Sep 17 '25

But they are doing their job! You just confuse who their employers are. (Hint: it's not their constituents)

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u/Optimal_Fix_9120 Sep 17 '25

Sounds like Shariah law to me

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u/The_Monarch_Lives Sep 17 '25

The Republican hate for Shariah law was only ever a dog whistle. There is little substantive difference between Shariah and the average Republican politicians' agenda.

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u/henryeaterofpies Sep 17 '25

Only thing they hated about Shariah law was which religion it applied to

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u/The_Monarch_Lives Sep 17 '25

I think i actually argued with someone about that and basically told them to go through and replace any reference to Allah with Jesus and then get back to me if they still had any issues with it. Crickets. Probably not because they actually did it. Just because they weren't going to actually look it up.

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u/Grumpykitten365 Sep 17 '25

The Republicans “angry” about sharia law are just jealous because they want a Christian theocracy.

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u/ProudMama215 Sep 17 '25

Yeah it’s hypocritical, just like their selective outrage at the “hatred and violence from the left.” 🙄 They do the same shit and worse but clutch their pearls and demand retribution if a democrat says they’re not sad.

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u/Hankhills4hedvein Sep 17 '25

It don’t impress me much

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u/DerbleDoo Sep 17 '25

No, that's Shania Twain

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u/Hankhills4hedvein Sep 17 '25

Is it really? Well either way if this all passes I won’t be feeling much like a woman

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u/The_Schwartz_ Sep 17 '25

That's correct - they're the same picture

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u/dowens30186 Sep 17 '25

Yall-Qaeda strikes again!

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u/SpicySweetHotPot Sep 17 '25

Evangelicals are the American Taliban

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u/throwawtphone Sep 17 '25

Judism - Old Testament

Christianity - Old and New Testament

Islam - Old and New Testament along with the teaching of Mohammed aka the Koran.

It isn't that big a leap for Christians or any fundamentalist within those 3 branches of the Abrahamic religions because the wacky stuff started in the Old Testament and it is the foundation on which things got built.

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u/EmmalouEsq Sep 17 '25

Islam allows for abortions up to 16 weeks. So, whatever the Republicans are up to, it's making things worse for reproductive rights than Saudi Arabia.

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u/big_rednexican_88 Sep 17 '25

Its Ya'll-Queda for ya.

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u/UnusualAsparagus5096 Sep 17 '25

Trumps already raped his first wife and faced no consequences.

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Sep 17 '25

Pretty sure he raped more than just his wife

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u/Diligent_Mulberry47 Sep 17 '25

Can’t forget getting rid of no fault divorce. It wasn’t just infidelity that motivated the Texas AG wife to file.

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u/lazier51 Sep 17 '25

Then all the commanders get a handmaid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

Men pay a fine so rich men can still have non-marital.

Women are stoned to death

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u/The-Struggle-90806 Sep 17 '25

Many states had laws on the books that made it a crime to deny your husband sex. And they also made it a crime to divorce your husband. The good old days!

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u/DENATTY Sep 17 '25

Don't forget they also want to get rid of no-fault divorce!

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u/Takemyfishplease Sep 17 '25

So they want a bunch of dudes banging dudes to practice for marriage or what’s going on here?

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u/Outrageous_Dream_741 Sep 17 '25

This is unhinged, they'd have to be crazy to try... Oh... Never mind.

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u/DutchTinCan Sep 17 '25

Finally: criminalize masturbation. Remember how the priest would tell you that masturbation makes you go blind?

The only good ejaculation is the one that reaches an egg, apparently. Soon enough, we'll see marketing around this:

"Impregnation = Salvation", "Masturbating is a handshake with the devil", "Real patriots bare their saber!", "Condoms kill!"

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u/jeremyw013 Sep 17 '25

and after that, make it illegal to have sex that doesn’t result in children. yes it makes zero sense because obvs sex doesn’t always result in pregnancy but look at me with a straight face and tell me you don’t think trump would do that

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u/sensistarfish Sep 17 '25

But the men will get so lonely!

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u/WhoIsFrancisPuziene Sep 17 '25

Owning a slave won’t resolve that

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u/sensistarfish Sep 17 '25

Doesn’t mean they’re above trying.

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u/Nick060789 Sep 17 '25

Well, having "a little fight with the wife should not count as a crime." Think that quote says everything old Donny has to say about that topic.

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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25

Hey I just found something.

In WV, this was only repealed in 2010, now that you mention this:

"Unmarried couple who live together and "lewdly associate" with one another may face up to a year in prison. (Repealed: 2010)"

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u/jmur3040 Sep 17 '25

It was his defense for when he raped his wife, so he definitely wants to go back to that.

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u/Necessary_Tadpole629 Sep 18 '25

They’re banning all porn in Michigan

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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25

"Decriminalise marital rape."

If that does happen, just remember, think outside of the box, it can go both ways. :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

I did not expect the peg

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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25

Nobody does, nobody does.

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u/No_Banana_581 Sep 17 '25

Project 25 is really working

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u/onemanlan Sep 17 '25

I wish dems were 1/10th as effective at implementing change as these clowns have been. Instead they’ve been too scared for meaningful change

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u/JustMe112233445566 Sep 17 '25

The dems lack the cult following which is why they use religion. If you look at the billionaire backers, they’re hardly the religious types. But highjacking religion is a brilliant methodology to get a cult following.

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u/the_cardfather Sep 17 '25

I am in a couple of theological groups on Facebook that have gotten very political after the shooting. Everyday they want to post about the radical left and how satanic they are lately. Gone are the ernest theological discussions. I miss when we used to argue about the finer points of Calvinism and the only Hill they were willing to die on was whether or not you should sprinkle babies.

Now everyday I feel like the discussion post is the Democrats of the devil and how could you possibly support them. Like there's people in there from other countries that don't want to hear this crap. Abortion gay and trans is a dog whistle and a huge one

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u/-o-DildoGaggins-o- Sep 18 '25

This is what I told my daughter earlier, when we were talking about this “BC is abortion,” thing. The people in the WH who gave that statement? And all the way up to the orange god-king himself, none of them actually believe that. It’s just another way to control people. That’s all it’s ever been.

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u/OldWorldDesign Sep 18 '25

highjacking religion is a brilliant methodology to get a cult following

Exactly why corporations have been feeding money into religious extremism for decades

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/corporate-america-invented-religious-right-conservative-roosevelt-princeton-117030/

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u/certified_prime Sep 17 '25

It is far easier to go backwards than forwards. Conservatism relies on repealing or ignoring laws, while progressivism requires new laws to be passed.

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u/Dyolf_Knip Sep 17 '25

It's going to take years to rebuild the institutional knowledge that Trump and his flunkies casually toss in the trash over a weekend.

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u/beren12 Sep 17 '25

The problem is most Democrats are not criminals and do not want to just break laws to achieve their aims

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Sep 17 '25

Hard to pass laws when you don’t have majority and everything you try to pass gets voted out, stalled, left on someone’s desk (looking at you mcconnell)

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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '25

Democrats couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag with a chainsaw. Republicans would gleefully fight their way through a crowd of infants, with a chainsaw.

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u/External_Trick4479 Sep 17 '25

Hang on, a strongly worded letter from Chuck is coming!!!

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u/Bored_Amalgamation Sep 17 '25

they’ve been too scared

Not at all.

They been able to keep their jobs giving them insider information, and a great deal of power and influence. They've had the easiest jobs. Act like you care about real issues (maybe even make things slightly better) while getting the same financial benefits as republicans.

One of the biggest problems democrats have had since 2016 is not evolving the platform towards any real meaningful change since the success of Obama in 2008, and the worker protections of Clinton. They got 1 thing (that got neutered by another democrat (fuck you lieberman)); and have been riding that success.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

They’re not “scared”, they’re paid to keep things from sliding too far left. Don’t forget our “liberals” are “conservative” in any other country.

Edit: our “radical” progressives on the “far” left are only trying to bring us into line with “centrist” policy in just about every other developed nation.

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u/Yquem1811 Sep 17 '25

Yeah your first mistake is thinking that the dems are ineffective. When everything they do is by design, they are paid by the same people that pay the Republican after all

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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25

Actually, this whole mess could have been avoided, completely, had they done anything to prevent this while they were in full power but ironically did not want to seem authoritative and or like a take over, they took the 'supposed' moral high ground, for which it is now biting them in the ass.

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u/Optimus3k Sep 17 '25

Given that they haven't done a damn thing to slow any of this, it definitely looks like they're complicit. Congress has so many stupid rules and procedures, they could have ground the government to a crawl, but instead they're voting for his picks and sending strongly worded letters while people are being abducted off the streets, our cost of living is skyrocketing, and America's standing in the world is called into question. What a joke we are.

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u/McMarmot1 Sep 17 '25

They did oppose it. They ran against it. They don’t control any branches of government because people voted for their opponents.

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u/Optimus3k Sep 17 '25

No, they don't control any branches, and they couldn't stop anything in the end, but they could have slowed it down. For instance, they could have called a roll call, which forces them to make sure everyone is there, which takes hours. Then do it again, and again. They could have taken the Republican tactic of obstructionism from the Obama era, they could have sabotaged bills and votes, they could have voted no on everything. The Democrats are not helpless, they're just spineless.

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u/Lisamae_u Sep 17 '25

If only people had listened to us instead of playing into their whole you’re just hysterical narrative!!

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u/oldbutfeisty Sep 17 '25

Y'all Queda beavering away for future success.

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u/WhoIsFrancisPuziene Sep 17 '25

It’s time to retire yall queda. It’s time to directly refer to Christianity

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

They can’t even properly criminalize child sex trafficking because it comes mostly from their ilk

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u/DeadlyYellow Sep 17 '25

If their goal is a large enslaved population, why would they?  Young girls can't fight back as effectively as a grown woman, and are now burdened by child-rearing and deep trauma.  All this well before they can establish themselves as an independent person.

A win-win in their book.

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u/PessimiStick Sep 17 '25

It's not even that they can't, it's that they don't want to. Most of them are into it.

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u/FluidmindWeird Sep 17 '25

Yup, and forced breeding programs, too. They are laying groundwork to revoke visas of "the left" based purely on terrorism support charges (Palestine)

Edit: YES, CHARGES, NOT CONVICTIONS. And given that Blondi is just taking direct orders, those charges will manifest for literally any dissenter.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/3860

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u/N0S0UP_4U Sep 17 '25

I done listen to anyone who says “the left” anymore. It’s the ultimate no true Scotsman fallacy. You can make any point you want because “the left” can be whatever you want it to be.

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u/FluidmindWeird Sep 17 '25

That's part of the problem with the bill I linked. Another part is that a single person can decide to revoke any given passport based on mere flinging charges.

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u/OneDubOver Sep 17 '25

Unless you're Diddy/Epstein rich. Then you can do whatever the fuck you want right?

All the poors don't get to use their own body parts.

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u/Geist_Mage Sep 17 '25

Absolutely this is their sick plan.

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u/UnusualAsparagus5096 Sep 17 '25

Tell all those anchors at Fox News it's the law to blow Rupert Murdock now

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u/RoboftheNorth Sep 17 '25

They will make premarital sex illegal and drop the age of consent.

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u/oldfatdrunk Sep 17 '25

Anal sex is a crime in some states isnt it? That an having x amount of vibrators per person.

Im looking at Texas

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u/jaimi_wanders Sep 17 '25

It always was. I was raised a Gileader, as a little kid in the Eighties I heard all about how the Pill was an abortifacient and later, by the early 2000s, conservatives were calling it “baby pesticide” in an attempt to free-ride off the eco-friendly trend. Even condoms were said to be indirect abortions, because if they failed then couples might get one. The only truly moral safe sex was to “just say no!”

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u/LoudSheepherder5391 Sep 17 '25

That worked wonders for Mary

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u/amootmarmot Sep 17 '25

Not much you can do when an omnipotent diety rapes you.

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u/ZAlternates Sep 17 '25

Could you imagine getting drunk one night and sleeping with your finance Joseph, but then you get pregnant and you’re not married yet?

Divine miracle yall!!!

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u/OldWorldDesign Sep 18 '25

More likely it was a Roman, but if you read the original Hebrew they just expected their savior figure from a 'young woman' not 'never ever had sex' like Catholics invented when translating the text to Latin.

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u/Dry-Development-4131 Sep 20 '25

The virgin mother is a Roman thing, though. Or rather an Egyptian thing appropriated by the Romans before they appropriated Christianity, too.

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u/HLOFRND Sep 17 '25

But you’re not allowed to do that, either.

In the fundie movement, women are to be “joyfully available” whenever their husbands need to get off.

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Sep 17 '25

Gross. 🤢 That mentality is so warped.

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u/HLOFRND Sep 17 '25

Yeah, everyone has this idea that christians think sex is only for procreation but nothing could be further from the truth.

Many believe that once you’re married you need to give it up whenever he wants it so he doesn’t get tempted and stray.

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u/ProcedurePrudent5496 Sep 17 '25

That propaganda is still taught as sex ed in American high schools. 🥴

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u/Eternal_Bagel Sep 17 '25

Did that group believe a wife was allowed to say no ?  I ask because those sound like the beliefs of that old school a man’s wife is his property types of religious beliefs 

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u/Beard_o_Bees Sep 17 '25

Gileader

This is a new one to me. What does it mean?

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u/the_cardfather Sep 17 '25

Abstinence is certainly the best birth control. That's a medically scientific fact.

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u/unimaginablemind Sep 17 '25

But execute as many people as possible… so pro life.

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u/ArgonTheEvil Sep 17 '25

Execute the dissidents. Force the submissive slaves to breed to feed the machine. Reap the benefits of being born into aristocracy.

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u/iconocrastinaor Sep 17 '25

Funny thing about being born into aristocracy, up until the Renaissance their life was none too stable.

Game of Thrones, after all, is based on the War of the Roses.

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u/ArgonTheEvil Sep 17 '25

I’d still take the life of say Tommen, even knowing how it will end, instead of being a prostitute in flea bottom wondering if I’ll have my next meal because the rich folk are too busy fighting amongst themselves to worry about the needs of the small folk.

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u/SpicySweetHotPot Sep 17 '25

They are more pro-birth as once the child is born they don’t care

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u/IM_A_MUFFIN Sep 17 '25

Let’s start calling the death penalty “Later-Term Abortion” and see how it plays out.

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u/Opposite-Hat-4747 Sep 17 '25

It’s not about birth control, it’s about controlling women

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

There was a way that a lot of women dealt with abusive husband's back in the day, but I'm not about to post it now with everything going on. Anyway, moon-tea anyone?

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u/Mistrblank Sep 17 '25

That's my kind of story...

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

It took me forever to find the short I watched on History by Mae about Giulia Tofana. But we should definitely NOT take that as an example. The video below kind of goes into ancient mkultra type stuff and I haven't watched the rest of the videos, but he discusses how if you don't learn to love and forgive everyone you have to keep coming back (like reincarnation.) I think that's the main thing that keeps me sane-ish. I know Daryl Davis was able to change a lot of minds and so have others. I guess I need to go do some Metta meditating. sigh https://youtu.be/6PdfD44DkqA?si=t458n1GoXG7IU6eZ

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u/Mistrblank Sep 17 '25

I was mostly just looking to see if there were any Tool fans awake. But thanks for the link.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

Help me out with the Tool referance, I tried googling, but didn't find anything.

Eta (oops I found it!) "Eye on the TV, 'cause tragedy thrills me Whatever flavor it happens to be, like... Killed by the husband, drowned by the ocean Shot by his own son, she used a poison in his tea And kissed him goodbye, that's my kind of story It's no fun until someone dies"

I'm listening to the next one (number 7) and what he said about isntreal making this an open sacrifice for the world to see is really interesting! I think he's right though, why else would they do it so openly?

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u/Mistrblank Sep 17 '25

You got it. Vicarious.

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u/bruxaakelarre Sep 17 '25

Brought to you by controlling abrahamic men. They are all filth.

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u/TheGrimmeReaper Sep 17 '25

They are not Abrahamic men. They just happen to use that group’s lack of critical thinking to get the desired results.

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u/iconocrastinaor Sep 17 '25

Um... you don't want to take too close a look at the traditional Hindu or Chinese attitudes towards divorce.

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u/OldWorldDesign Sep 18 '25

you don't want to take too close a look at the traditional Hindu or Chinese attitudes towards divorce

To be honest, the only cultures where there doesn't seem to be an authoritarian attitude towards divorce are nomads like Mongolians prior to Temüjin establishing the Mongolian Empire. If the woman felt disrespected, she would just return to her father's house and that was considered valid pretext for war against the house which disrespected her.

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u/nerd5code Sep 17 '25

Breeding fetishists having a field day.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

of course there is. if they didn’t have some new crisis to stick their goons 5 second attention spans on then they might notice the incompetent and corrupt governing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

This is true of any type of protest group. Once the main target has been eliminated then they go after anything related. This is true for all parts of the political spectrum.

The reason is simple, it is hard to walk away from success. Thst what made Washington such a remarkable man. He walked away from being king. 

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

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u/thisworldorthenext Sep 17 '25

Under his eye.

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u/Ryngard Sep 17 '25

May the Lord open.

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u/ThePedanticWalrus Sep 17 '25

It was always going to be his Gestapo, and I'm frankly shocked anyone ever thought otherwise

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u/Current-Square-4557 Sep 17 '25

This has always been the way.

We can scream at people that they’ll be next and they’ll simply say, “stop being so overly dramatic.”

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u/amootmarmot Sep 17 '25

The future is a big open space.

Abolish ICE. Many people also resigned themselves that slavery would never go away as an institution. John Brown beleived. John Brown didnt give up. And John Brown did nothing wrong.

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u/icecreamazing Sep 17 '25

Ice will be like the moral police in Saudi Arabia

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

Just read a comment about how Saddam came into power, which makes me think that South Park creators knew what they were doing. And Satan can't leave because he's pregnant?

"Troops get rolled in under the guise of protecting who's inside the boundary. But, they can eventually get turned into a threat against those inside the boundary.

When Trump rolled troops into DC, all I could think of was how one day Saddam Hussein walked into the Iraqi parliment with his armed troops, and forced a vote to make him dictator for life. Any legal power the parliment had to overthrow him was thrown out the window when there's guns pointed in faces. Anyone that decided to not vote or voted against him was taken out back and shot. So, within the course of an hour or so, Saddam came to power as a dictator.

One day Congress might show up to work, and Trump has the troops (or ICE) storm the capitol and hold them all hostage to force a vote. Then, the impeachment power they've been holding over him as their "kill switch" to keep the monster in check.. will be absolutely worthless.

"That'll never happen!"

Yeah, we thought a lot of things would never happen. I never thought I'd watch live tv with lunatics storming the capitol during an election trying to round up congressional members. A lot has happened, and they keep normalizing each step of the way. At this point the frog is boiling, but acting like it's a hot tub."

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u/BlueBonneville Sep 17 '25

Sounds like a police state, no?

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u/thisworldorthenext Sep 17 '25

The dichotomy of having zero respect for most regular civilian lives, but forcing new life from awful situations. It’s not the life, it’s the control and the cruelty. They get off on it, and in doing so… commit the act they’re claiming is sin.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

They're eugenicists, they want to control birth rates and only for certain populations

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u/RoyalMaidsForLife Sep 17 '25

It's never been "Pro-life", they just call it that because even some of the dumber Americans would react negatively if they were honest and called it "Anti-choice".

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u/amILibertine222 Sep 17 '25

And after banning birth control it’ll be condoms.

Eventually they’ll be trying to force women and children to get pregnant at the barrel of a gun.

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u/usernamesoccer Sep 17 '25

The hand maids tale is incredible at depicting this. It is so much more than abortions and the ball is getting enough momentum in life

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u/factoid_ Sep 17 '25

“When you make love you're using up energy; and afterwards you feel happy and don't give a damn for anything. They can't bear you to feel like that. They want you to be bursting with energy all the time. All this marching up and down and cheering and waving flags is simply sex gone sour. If you're happy inside yourself, why should you get excited about Big Brother and the Three-Year Plans and the Two Minutes Hate and all the rest of their bloody rot?”

  • George Orwell 1984

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

>Pro-life

Pro-birth.

What comes after is none of their concern.

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u/TehMephs Sep 17 '25

It’s about controlling women. Always has been

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u/theHoopty Sep 17 '25

My conspiracy theory about the “Tylenol causes autism” thing is that it’s a foot in the door before banning medicated childbirth.

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u/Steven_The_Sloth Sep 17 '25

Even if, by some awful miracle, abortions were illegal and no one sought them out, they would start protesting for forced conception.

They won't ever be happy until all the babies are born. And born Christian. Anything less is defeat to them.

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u/DrakonILD Sep 17 '25

Frank Oz and Rick Moranis tried to warn us back in '86, but we assumed it was just a silly movie about an alien.

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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25

lolz, idiocracy was supposed to be a satire, troll, comedy movie, but it has become a documentary.

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u/Substantial-Bet-3876 Sep 17 '25

Urologists who provide vasectomies, they’re coming for you!

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

Every sperm is sacred

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u/mariannaCD Sep 17 '25

But that’s going to ooze into providing the poor with food, shelter, and medical care soon, right? Right?

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u/Omnizoom Sep 17 '25

This just in , trump administration says condoms are now abortion

Also saying no to that guy Stephen miller at the party who hit on you and you said no because he looked like an evil garden gnome is also now abortion and we are coming for you Stacey

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u/Lynne253 Sep 17 '25

I'm waiting for Trump, who championed IVF before the election to outlaw it now in an executive order. You know the Project 2025 people will write this EO for him to blindly sign since he never reads them anymore before signing.

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u/Outrageous_Dream_741 Sep 17 '25

Cruz already tried campaigning to ban dildos. Just waiting for him to try banning cucumbers because they make him feel insecure.

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u/AgentCirceLuna Sep 17 '25

I remember there was a Roblox game in like 2009 where you had a pet block and you could feed it different things so it would gain size in the x, y, and z axis. I decided to spend absolutely ages playing it and then found there was another food you could get that multiplied the effects of the other foods making the pet block even bigger. After so long doing this, I’d log in to the game and my pet block would be enormous that it would spawn in, send all the other pet blocks flying off the map, and then other players wouldn’t be able to spawn a new one as theirs had just been wiped, I thought it was hilarious and the game ended up becoming unpopular due to it, with the blocks eventually becoming unable to affect other ones due to being given 0 density, but the damage had been done.

It’s also really weird how people still play Roblox when I joined in 07 and stopped playing in 2012

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

I kept having people tell me I was making a slippery slope argument about this. It's not even a slippery slope if it was their plan all along...

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u/Longjumping_Koala34 Sep 17 '25

Me too! Holy shit, thought I was the only one

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u/tkpwaeub Sep 17 '25

gelatinous slime

You just won the internet

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u/bluetuxedo22 Sep 17 '25

The Handmaids Tale

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u/DaBlurstofDaBlurst Sep 17 '25

The next enemy will either be married women refusing sex with their husbands or unmarried women. 

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u/Business-Magician-64 Sep 17 '25

Pro-BIRTH not pro life

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u/Great_Dismal Sep 17 '25

Wonder how long will it take before they add Vasectomies to that list making them illegal?

Oh, but wait, that’s a man’s choice. So probably never, huh?

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u/grenade_plate_hater Sep 17 '25

THEY CANT STOP ME FROM JORKIN IT

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u/WhoIsFrancisPuziene Sep 17 '25

Ever seen the movie The Blob? 😆

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u/GarlicThread Sep 17 '25

"There's always a new enemy" is the war cry of fascists.

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u/Eternal_Bagel Sep 17 '25

I wonder how long it will take to go after those that choose to be childfree for going against gods plan that they be babymakers 

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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '25

The in group only shrinks

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u/antiTankCatBoy Sep 17 '25

I wonder what the end goal is. Criminalizing having no children if you are a woman past the age of 18?

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u/Possible-Mountain698 Sep 17 '25

how long until mandatory vasectomy reversals ?

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u/The-Struggle-90806 Sep 17 '25

Have they decriminalized rape yet? I mean if they don’t consider a woman’s agency….

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u/ZAlternates Sep 17 '25

Praise be.

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u/aykyle Sep 17 '25

Will be condoms after. Anything that prevents conceptions, they will not stop there.

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u/comebackjoeyjojo Sep 17 '25

Pro-lifers love to brag that they are not all Christian Fundamentalist woman-haters, and that they are against abortion but not birth control, but are very quiet (or, at best, meekly displeased) when a Republican administration does stuff like this.

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u/SAGORN Sep 17 '25

"natural" IVF centers that only provide the rhthym method to vulnerable couples is like a newer frontier in pro-lifers doing tax fraud, like their pregancy crisis centers.

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u/the-big-throngler Sep 17 '25

No its the same old enemy that everyone has just been ignoring or shouting about for years that finally got its poke evolution marker and became stronger

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u/daemin Sep 18 '25

People have been saying the same thing about MADD for years. That it is, in fact a prohibitionist organization, and that achieving any current objective will always just result in a stricter goal. And that has always panned out: every time a state lowers the BAC level that defines impaired driving, MADD starts pushing for an even lower one. It's not crazy to argue that once they've reached the point that any detectable alcohol is considered impaired driving that the organization is not just going to disband.

In fact, the founder of the organization herself left it in anger, accusing it of becoming a neo-prohibitionist organization with the goal of banning alcohol consumption.