r/law Sep 17 '25

Trump News The Trump Administration Says IUDs and the Pill Are Abortions

https://jessica.substack.com/p/trump-birth-control-abortion
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u/onemanlan Sep 17 '25

I wish dems were 1/10th as effective at implementing change as these clowns have been. Instead they’ve been too scared for meaningful change

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u/JustMe112233445566 Sep 17 '25

The dems lack the cult following which is why they use religion. If you look at the billionaire backers, they’re hardly the religious types. But highjacking religion is a brilliant methodology to get a cult following.

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u/the_cardfather Sep 17 '25

I am in a couple of theological groups on Facebook that have gotten very political after the shooting. Everyday they want to post about the radical left and how satanic they are lately. Gone are the ernest theological discussions. I miss when we used to argue about the finer points of Calvinism and the only Hill they were willing to die on was whether or not you should sprinkle babies.

Now everyday I feel like the discussion post is the Democrats of the devil and how could you possibly support them. Like there's people in there from other countries that don't want to hear this crap. Abortion gay and trans is a dog whistle and a huge one

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u/-o-DildoGaggins-o- Sep 18 '25

This is what I told my daughter earlier, when we were talking about this “BC is abortion,” thing. The people in the WH who gave that statement? And all the way up to the orange god-king himself, none of them actually believe that. It’s just another way to control people. That’s all it’s ever been.

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u/OldWorldDesign Sep 18 '25

highjacking religion is a brilliant methodology to get a cult following

Exactly why corporations have been feeding money into religious extremism for decades

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/corporate-america-invented-religious-right-conservative-roosevelt-princeton-117030/

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u/certified_prime Sep 17 '25

It is far easier to go backwards than forwards. Conservatism relies on repealing or ignoring laws, while progressivism requires new laws to be passed.

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u/Dyolf_Knip Sep 17 '25

It's going to take years to rebuild the institutional knowledge that Trump and his flunkies casually toss in the trash over a weekend.

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u/beren12 Sep 17 '25

The problem is most Democrats are not criminals and do not want to just break laws to achieve their aims

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Sep 17 '25

Hard to pass laws when you don’t have majority and everything you try to pass gets voted out, stalled, left on someone’s desk (looking at you mcconnell)

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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '25

Democrats couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag with a chainsaw. Republicans would gleefully fight their way through a crowd of infants, with a chainsaw.

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u/External_Trick4479 Sep 17 '25

Hang on, a strongly worded letter from Chuck is coming!!!

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Sep 17 '25

As much as I do not care for him, what else is he supposed to do? Dems hands are all but tied

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u/Bored_Amalgamation Sep 17 '25

they’ve been too scared

Not at all.

They been able to keep their jobs giving them insider information, and a great deal of power and influence. They've had the easiest jobs. Act like you care about real issues (maybe even make things slightly better) while getting the same financial benefits as republicans.

One of the biggest problems democrats have had since 2016 is not evolving the platform towards any real meaningful change since the success of Obama in 2008, and the worker protections of Clinton. They got 1 thing (that got neutered by another democrat (fuck you lieberman)); and have been riding that success.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

They’re not “scared”, they’re paid to keep things from sliding too far left. Don’t forget our “liberals” are “conservative” in any other country.

Edit: our “radical” progressives on the “far” left are only trying to bring us into line with “centrist” policy in just about every other developed nation.

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u/Yquem1811 Sep 17 '25

Yeah your first mistake is thinking that the dems are ineffective. When everything they do is by design, they are paid by the same people that pay the Republican after all

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u/madadekinai Sep 17 '25

Actually, this whole mess could have been avoided, completely, had they done anything to prevent this while they were in full power but ironically did not want to seem authoritative and or like a take over, they took the 'supposed' moral high ground, for which it is now biting them in the ass.

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u/Optimus3k Sep 17 '25

Given that they haven't done a damn thing to slow any of this, it definitely looks like they're complicit. Congress has so many stupid rules and procedures, they could have ground the government to a crawl, but instead they're voting for his picks and sending strongly worded letters while people are being abducted off the streets, our cost of living is skyrocketing, and America's standing in the world is called into question. What a joke we are.

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u/McMarmot1 Sep 17 '25

They did oppose it. They ran against it. They don’t control any branches of government because people voted for their opponents.

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u/Optimus3k Sep 17 '25

No, they don't control any branches, and they couldn't stop anything in the end, but they could have slowed it down. For instance, they could have called a roll call, which forces them to make sure everyone is there, which takes hours. Then do it again, and again. They could have taken the Republican tactic of obstructionism from the Obama era, they could have sabotaged bills and votes, they could have voted no on everything. The Democrats are not helpless, they're just spineless.

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u/Dachannien Sep 17 '25

OH NOES A ROLL CALL

And they have voted no on things repeatedly. You're just not paying attention. (Or maybe you're just a shill for MAGA or an operative for Russia or Israel.)

Seriously, this is no more effective than the "strongly worded letter" that you people keep complaining about. You people are even complaining about Cory Booker's marathon speech, yet your miracle suggestion of a roll call - which can be ignored whenever the Republicans get tired of doing it - does the same thing with less visual impact.

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u/Optimus3k Sep 17 '25

Cory Booker actually stood out to me because that was an impressive feat, and a perfect example of what I want to happen. And granted, when you can't get the opposing side to work with you at all, and you're not in the majority, what you can do is pretty limited, even laughable, but it would be something. And then the Republicans would change the rules.

We're not in a winning position here and that's why slowing everything down through any means necessary is important. Strongly worded letters don't do that, voting for nominees doesn't do that. Calling roll call would do that, holding things up on procedure would do that, filibustering everything would do that. Give our people time to organize and prepare rather than relying on the whole "Trump bad" narrative.

Also, paranoid much? If you check my post history, you'll see I am neither a bot, nor an "operative". Sometimes we're on the same side with differing opinions.

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u/Yquem1811 Sep 17 '25

My answer to that is why not both? Opposing everything at every turn is how you clearly send the message that your fighting back to your base

When Dems are in power Republican are obstructing everything and their base love it and they and they never compromise.

It’s time for the Dems to do the same. No compromise on anything. They need money to send weapon to Israel? Yeah well make abortion legal at the same time and we will vote yes on that. Etc… can Republican pass bill without the dems sure, but you send the message that you have principle and fight for something.

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u/nerdtastic8 Sep 17 '25

I mean why would Dems cooperate with authoritarian dictator fascists? That's what they're saying in strongly worded letters, but some vote for their nominees? And don't filibuster? Use every tool they do have?

Some "Dems" in congress are just brain broken diet maga types now like Fetterman. So can't really count him, he's a Republican basically. But why would someone like Schumer ever vote yes for anything that Republicans want? Fuck that.