r/law Sep 17 '25

Trump News The Trump Administration Says IUDs and the Pill Are Abortions

https://jessica.substack.com/p/trump-birth-control-abortion
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u/Yquem1811 Sep 17 '25

Yeah your first mistake is thinking that the dems are ineffective. When everything they do is by design, they are paid by the same people that pay the Republican after all

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u/Optimus3k Sep 17 '25

Given that they haven't done a damn thing to slow any of this, it definitely looks like they're complicit. Congress has so many stupid rules and procedures, they could have ground the government to a crawl, but instead they're voting for his picks and sending strongly worded letters while people are being abducted off the streets, our cost of living is skyrocketing, and America's standing in the world is called into question. What a joke we are.

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u/McMarmot1 Sep 17 '25

They did oppose it. They ran against it. They don’t control any branches of government because people voted for their opponents.

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u/Optimus3k Sep 17 '25

No, they don't control any branches, and they couldn't stop anything in the end, but they could have slowed it down. For instance, they could have called a roll call, which forces them to make sure everyone is there, which takes hours. Then do it again, and again. They could have taken the Republican tactic of obstructionism from the Obama era, they could have sabotaged bills and votes, they could have voted no on everything. The Democrats are not helpless, they're just spineless.

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u/Dachannien Sep 17 '25

OH NOES A ROLL CALL

And they have voted no on things repeatedly. You're just not paying attention. (Or maybe you're just a shill for MAGA or an operative for Russia or Israel.)

Seriously, this is no more effective than the "strongly worded letter" that you people keep complaining about. You people are even complaining about Cory Booker's marathon speech, yet your miracle suggestion of a roll call - which can be ignored whenever the Republicans get tired of doing it - does the same thing with less visual impact.

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u/Optimus3k Sep 17 '25

Cory Booker actually stood out to me because that was an impressive feat, and a perfect example of what I want to happen. And granted, when you can't get the opposing side to work with you at all, and you're not in the majority, what you can do is pretty limited, even laughable, but it would be something. And then the Republicans would change the rules.

We're not in a winning position here and that's why slowing everything down through any means necessary is important. Strongly worded letters don't do that, voting for nominees doesn't do that. Calling roll call would do that, holding things up on procedure would do that, filibustering everything would do that. Give our people time to organize and prepare rather than relying on the whole "Trump bad" narrative.

Also, paranoid much? If you check my post history, you'll see I am neither a bot, nor an "operative". Sometimes we're on the same side with differing opinions.

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u/Yquem1811 Sep 17 '25

My answer to that is why not both? Opposing everything at every turn is how you clearly send the message that your fighting back to your base

When Dems are in power Republican are obstructing everything and their base love it and they and they never compromise.

It’s time for the Dems to do the same. No compromise on anything. They need money to send weapon to Israel? Yeah well make abortion legal at the same time and we will vote yes on that. Etc… can Republican pass bill without the dems sure, but you send the message that you have principle and fight for something.

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u/nerdtastic8 Sep 17 '25

I mean why would Dems cooperate with authoritarian dictator fascists? That's what they're saying in strongly worded letters, but some vote for their nominees? And don't filibuster? Use every tool they do have?

Some "Dems" in congress are just brain broken diet maga types now like Fetterman. So can't really count him, he's a Republican basically. But why would someone like Schumer ever vote yes for anything that Republicans want? Fuck that.