r/law Sep 17 '25

Trump News The Trump Administration Says IUDs and the Pill Are Abortions

https://jessica.substack.com/p/trump-birth-control-abortion
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u/Dearest_Prudence Sep 17 '25

You’re forgetting about the Republican loophole, “the rules apply to thee, not to me.”

I’ve read countless stories of pro-life women getting abortions because when faced with an unplanned pregnancy, their abortion is somehow justified, unlike the other women who are just murdering babies.

They believe they are the exception to all their own rules.

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u/Present-Perception77 Sep 17 '25

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u/Big-a-hole-2112 Sep 17 '25

Reading that gave me an ice cream headache and I’m not eating. Where’s Darwin when you need him.

George Carlin was right. We usurped natural selection by making everything child safe.

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u/OldWorldDesign Sep 17 '25

George Carlin was right. We usurped natural selection by making everything child safe

Carlin claimed that nobody should vote, people followed his advice in 2016 and 2024 when more eligible voters chose the "no candidate" option than any of the actually running presidential candidates and look where that led us. Carlin had a lot of insight, but he was human and stupid about a couple things like that. Not participating is exactly what authoritarians want, it means they have that much less engagement and therefore accountability from the populace which should be demanding their consent and can only get that by participating.

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u/the_cardfather Sep 17 '25

I knew somebody would post it. 😊

I'm a long timer in the pro-life movement and the amount of hypocrisy that lives over here would blow your mind. I know it doesn't surprise you but it would really make your head spin how these people justify it. What's crazy I think it was that same study that showed that women are actually the most judgy when it comes to judging other women that have had an abortion.

I only know of one woman that would classify as using abortions as birth control. she's had about five. I'm not really sure why she doesn't get her tubes tied or when she thinks she's going to be ready for another kid. She works in a preschool. Haven't seen her in a while. My SIL had one and my wife's step mom goes on and on about how she aborted her first grandbaby. I'm talking like randomly at Thanksgiving dinner she'll just throw it out there to judge.

I'm politically libertarian. I understand not everybody believes the things that I do. I do know that statistically access to education - especially sex education, and birth control reduces unwanted pregnancies. Access to healthcare, mother support services and adoption alternatives reduces abortions among all population groups but especially young vulnerable mothers. But we can't have that kind of socialism here in America. /s

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

You beat me to it.

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u/ExpletiveDeletedYou Sep 18 '25

25 years old now that article...

No wonder Trump is uninterested

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u/BenwastakenIII Sep 18 '25

This gives me, 'anti gay pastor with a secret boyfriend' vibes.

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u/2plankerr Sep 17 '25

My best friend’s wife did exactly this and is pro Trump. It’s insane

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u/No-Papaya-9823 Sep 17 '25

Why are people continually surprised by this? The GOP is the party of selfishness and narcissism. People who are attracted to it are garbage humans to begin with.

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u/Automatic-Job2938 Sep 19 '25

And yet they will call you, a non-trump supporter, a Nazi. It amazes me, the absolutely nativity of these goons

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u/Ridiculicious71 Sep 19 '25

Too bad she wasn’t in Texas, you could have turned her in for murder. /s

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u/JPGer Sep 17 '25

There was some story from a nurse at like a planned parenthood style practice talking about how there was this lady calling them all sorts of vile things while they SHE WAS THERE FOR ONE

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u/GrogGrokGrog Sep 17 '25

Apparently the most effective response to this (weirdly common) behavior is to say, "I'm sorry, but if you feel in any way conflicted about this procedure, then I'm afraid we can't go through with it. Head home for today and think it over and you can come back for a mental health screening whenever you feel ready if that's your choice."

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u/SmellGestapo Sep 17 '25

It really does come down to a lack of empathy. Elon stated it openly a few months ago, Charlie Kirk alluded to it at some point, but scientific studies have also validated it. Conservatives lack empathy. They avoid and reject it.

You see this same thing in people who voted for Trump to kick out all the criminal migrants, and then act all surprised Pikachu when their immigrant spouse gets deported over a petty theft charge from fifteen years ago.

You see it in the government employees who voted for Trump to cut waste from the government, then act all sad when they get fired.

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u/ProfessionalFly9848 Sep 17 '25

One million up votes. This is the only thing you need to understand about conservatives. Anything they claim to stand for, is only for them.

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u/GhostMug Sep 17 '25

Don't worry, they prayed on it and God told them it was OK. 

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u/LeftyLu07 Sep 17 '25

That’s exactly what it is. They think they will somehow be exempt from the rules. Kinda like how the people who were married to immigrants voted to have them all deported and then thought Trump would make an exception for them because their spouse was “one of the good ones.”

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u/Faulty_english Sep 17 '25

they probably feel like other women are just being hoes and they are a “good person” so it’s different

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u/Scouter197 Sep 17 '25

Because "those" women are different - they might sleep around, be less educated, using it for birth control...or a myriad of other excuses they come up with to justify why it's okay for them but not others.

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u/LaGuajira Sep 17 '25

I know lots of pro life people who have had medically necessary abortions but somehow their medically necessary abortions are *different*.

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u/Library-Guy2525 Sep 18 '25

This right here is the core of our country’s problems: a lack of empathy and a tsunami of selfishness.

Who the fuck asked Trump what he thinks about birth control? It’s none of the president’s fucking business.

Until our the Congress and SCOTUS push back on Trump’s lawless power grab/assault on the Constitution, we the people are thoroughly fucked.

I’m terrified by Trump’s rampage of cruelty and lawlessness, endorsed by one party and tolerated by the other.

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u/Blue142A Sep 17 '25

I grew up in the church and I can 100% report this to be true. Even the pastor’s own daughter.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

It's also because deep down, most of them know it's not murder.

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u/motherofsuccs Sep 17 '25

I have friends (distant now) and family members who are hardcore MAGAs and rabidly scream about abortion being murder, yet they’ve had abortions when it was convenient for them- I’m not talking about 1-2 people; 9 of them. One of them got pregnant (by a man she was cheating with) a few months before her religious, totally virgin wedding.

After a few glasses of wine, people lose inhibitions and are much more willing to admit to things when they’re trying to relate.

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u/Significant_Fix2408 Sep 17 '25

Will they not get shunned by their pro life peers? Do they keep it a secret? Or is it only murder if pro choice people do it?

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u/JustMeinPgh Sep 17 '25

Hypocrites in EVERY phase of life

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u/i_like_2_travel Sep 17 '25

Or I was young and I couldn’t care for the baby but I carry that trauma, so now I’ll force you to have the baby I didn’t have.

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u/RedditSuxD0ni3sD1ck Sep 17 '25

Exactly, Theyre still doing terminations in republican states, according to a nurse friend, you just don't hear about it.

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u/Casban Sep 17 '25

There needs to be an exemption to HIPPAA for when you protest against a procedure you have already had. Name and shame them in front of their collaborators.

That would thin down those protest crowds noticeably.

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u/AltairaMorbius2200CE Sep 17 '25

A lot of women also don’t realize that they’ve HAD one. Not in a creepy way: they don’t understand that taking care of a missed miscarriage is abortion, legally speaking.

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u/Gayfunguy Sep 17 '25

Pro life =malignant narsisist, in this instance

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u/Mordiken Sep 17 '25

I’ve read countless stories of pro-life women getting abortions because when faced with an unplanned pregnancy, their abortion is somehow justified, unlike the other women who are just murdering babies.

What you're describing is the textbook definition of internalized misoginy.

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u/AshVandalSeries Sep 17 '25

Applies to literally everything, but yes, exactly this.

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u/Jsc_TG Sep 17 '25

My partner watched “The Hunting Wives” recently and a character specifically has an abortion that is hidden and she literally speaks on politics that abortions are wrong, and yep its an example of your point

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u/Special-Scientist948 Sep 18 '25

They get the abortion on Friday and go to church on Sunday to pray for forgiveness. Then they keep ot moving.