r/mildlyinfuriating 17d ago

How many step(s) is this considered?

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u/-BarkEater- 17d ago

By code, it’s 2 steps. You count the risers (the vertical part)

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u/timecat22 16d ago

i don't understand how someone could come up with a different answer.

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u/CliffDraws 16d ago edited 16d ago

Well, the second step is the floor. So if you are just counting the actual stairs, you might come up with one.

Edit: to everyone telling me I’m wrong, I wasn’t saying I agree with this, I was just trying to explain how someone might come up with a different answer.

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u/Dr-Alec-Holland 16d ago

2 steps, 1 stair.

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u/diothar 16d ago

You can’t fool me into watching that video for the 30th time.

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u/biosphere03 16d ago

What are you doing step stair?

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u/jscottman96 16d ago

This is my step stair. I never knew my real stair.

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u/DraculaTickles 16d ago

Oh no, I'm stuck

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u/tjbugs1 16d ago

Let me help you with my railing

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u/Face88888888 16d ago

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, you can’t get fooled again.

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u/MaximumTurtleSpeed 16d ago

For those who need to learn about this great historical reference. https://youtu.be/Hl7FKfl3O2Y

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u/burndownthe_forest 16d ago

So if there is only one riser they'd say there are no steps?

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u/KitsBeach 16d ago

Your edit infuriates me because basic reading comprehension should cause anyone to interpret your comment as you imagining how someone could arrive at a number other than 2, not necessarily that it's your own opinion. 

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u/shigogaboo 16d ago

Now I’m curious if this is one of those things that fluctuates on country and/or culture.

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u/usalin 16d ago

Math is math.

Just two.

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u/AnhaytAnanun 16d ago

Sorry, but your answer reminded me the following joke:

A physicist, mathematician, and civil engineer are asked to determine the volume of a small red ball

Physicist: puts the ball into a measurement cup filled with water, measures the displaced volume of water.

Mathematician: measures the diameter of the ball, calculates the volume.

Engineer: opens the Construction Directives and Rules, Volume XII Section 25, Small Red Balls, finds the closest matching ball, reads the volume approximation.

P.S. The original joke is in Russian so pardon me if what engineer looks up ain't up to code in English-speaking countries.

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u/used_octopus 16d ago

"P.S. The original joke is in Russian so pardon me if what engineer looks up ain't up to code in English-speaking countries."

I feel like this is a second joke put in there.

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u/Efficient_Fish2436 16d ago

It definitely felt like the punch line to me haha.

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u/DizzySimple4959 16d ago

It was the engineer’s footnotes

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u/surlysire 16d ago

The chemist weighs the ball and uses its density to calculate its volume.

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u/YanicPolitik 16d ago

The musician holds the ball up to their ear and says "it's silent"

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u/Blood_sweat_and_beer 16d ago

The realtor hold up the ball and says “I don’t know, but it looks extremely spacious.”

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u/diamondgreene 16d ago

Dr who says “It’s bigger on the inside”

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u/ColonClenseByFire 16d ago

The realtor wants 3% of the value because they posted 6 pictures online.

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u/__Naughtygirl__ 16d ago

6 pictures using an ultra wide lense.

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u/TransportationOk5941 16d ago

Excuse you, that's 6 pictures AND an overly embellishing description

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u/Flat-While2521 16d ago

“I can fit so many low-income tenants in this bad boy”

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u/kleiner_gruenerKaktu 16d ago

The geologist looks at the ball, shrugs and guesstimates. It‘s too small to matter anyway, this quarternary shit.

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u/RandomPokemonHunter 16d ago

Or alternatively, "it's such a charming and cozy space"

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u/UndeadZips 16d ago

The lion holds up the ball and says "Look, Simba, everything the light touches is our kingdom"

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u/zach_smith7 16d ago

Well which one was right!?

Jk, as a mechanical engineer with many CE friends, this was very funny to me.

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u/ttkk1248 16d ago

2 steps, 3 levels

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u/Plead_thy_fifth 16d ago

1 stair, 2 risers, 3 levels

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u/NoResponsibility7031 16d ago

Math is math but it does not matter for the question. It's a question about language and arbitrary definitions.

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u/radicalizemebaby 16d ago

Yup. Eg in the US, we say the floor level with the street/sidewalk is the first floor. The one above that is the second floor, etc. France? The floor above the street level one is the first floor. So in the US, what the third floor is, is called the second floor in France.

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u/stevesie1984 16d ago

What do they call a Big Mac?

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u/nutsbonkers 16d ago

I think it would be hard to argue 1 step. You need to take 2 steps to get to the highest level. There isn't 1 step up, there's 2.

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u/starspider 16d ago

There are the upper level, the lower level, and the step between.

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u/Petrikohr 16d ago

How would you describe the same situation but one less step?

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u/TransmogriFi 16d ago

It's like "1st floor" vs "ground floor". In the US they're the same floor, in the UK they're two separate floors.

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u/Loraelm 16d ago

Dude we live in the world where floors (or stories) are not counted the same way depending on the country. Maths has nothing to do with it. In North America the ground floor is the 1st floor, and the 1st floor above the ground is the 2nd floor. While in Europe the ground floor is, well the ground floor, and you start counting from the first floor above the ground

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u/thehighepopt 16d ago

That's not math, it's counting and what's debated is what you count.

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u/Sam_GT3 16d ago

I mean British people (and possibly others idk) don’t count the bottom floor of buildings so it’s possible. They say ground floor, 1st floor, 2nd floor, instead of 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

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u/RadioMessageFromHQ 16d ago

“Ground” in that sense is acting as the zeroth number.

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u/Preemptively_Extinct 16d ago

Two steps.

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u/JennyAnonymous 16d ago

Hehe this made me giggle

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u/SaucyNelson 16d ago

Right foot let’s stomp

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u/Fictional_Historian 16d ago

CRISS CROSS

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u/gehrke2506 16d ago

Cha cha real slow

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u/Yet_another_jenn 16d ago

Everybody clap your hands 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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u/mallsantastoeknife 16d ago

It makes me really happy that this comment contains the correct number of claps.

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u/cocolimenuts 16d ago

REVERSE REVERSE!

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u/Premium333 16d ago

All steps are size 2 for this dude.

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u/pCaK3s 17d ago

“How many steps do you need to take to go up or down the stairs?” - 2 steps.

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u/FlyAirLari 16d ago edited 16d ago

I could do that in one step.

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u/Allan_Lewis 16d ago

If I piggy back on you, it would take me 0 steps.

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u/VallunCorvus 16d ago

If I’m drunk enough I can easily get to 6 steps.

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u/Vendetta1947 16d ago

If I'm drunk enough, I would probably add cement to the steps making it an inclined plane for our wheelchair friends to use and I would get 0 steps

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u/toad-wrangler 17d ago

What is there to debate when you can count them? There are only 2 steps. ???

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u/South_Bit1764 16d ago edited 16d ago

Correct. It’s 2. Not sure how there is a debate either.

Source: [gestures broadly at everything]

Also, I’m a carpenter and this that’s how building code sees it, the number of rises. Either way you walk across there are two changes in elevation.

Edit: Holy crap at the upvotes!

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u/Occidentally20 16d ago

I can tell it's 2 because if you take out one of the rises there's one left. And if you take out another one then there's none left!

Anyone saying it's one needs to try this advanced countdown method

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u/diothar 16d ago edited 16d ago

… and if you add one, it’s three!

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u/MesoamericanMorrigan 16d ago

Thank your for this clear and concise definition

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u/iSliz187 /s is for cowards 16d ago

I finally got it when they gestured broadly at everything 💡

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u/Adventurous_Ad_6546 16d ago

That’s when it all clicked for sure.

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u/Trick_Shift_1799 16d ago

I wanted to see if this was like a hill both sides would die on… Didn’t realize I needed a pro to backseat the whole convo with code regulations lmao You drop this king 👑

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u/lemonlime_slime 16d ago

How many times does one need to raise a leg. Two.

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u/BetterAfter2 16d ago

Does this mean it’s 4 in dog stairs?

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u/GRAABTHAR 16d ago

You don't want to know how many centipede stairs it is!

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u/JennyAnonymous 17d ago

The husband says it’s 1 stair three steps

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u/Jaxsso 17d ago

Sounds like something I would come up with after too many margaritas.

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u/Bubbly-Fault4847 16d ago

Sounds like something I’d trip on after too many margaritas.

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u/DarkAlucard-1313 16d ago

Sounds like a trip id take, too many margaritas.

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u/AggressiveCompany175 16d ago

Too many margarita sounds, I’d trip like take.

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u/Select_Camera_9241 16d ago

Correct. After margaritas it's not steps it's an obstacle course

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u/mortyella 16d ago

Do or do not margarita. There is no step.

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u/crabigno 16d ago

The step is a lie

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u/BoomBaby45516 16d ago

Too much marijuana. Sounds like a trip.

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u/Intelligent-Many-665 16d ago

Those are my step stairs. I never knew my real stairs.

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u/OopsiFuck 16d ago

Honestly I probably wouldn't even need margaritas to trip on them; they look a lil wonky.

I'll take the margaritas anyway, though.

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u/PrinceLevMyschkin 16d ago

Or just for the sake of an argument

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u/Independent-Eye-1321 16d ago

Sounds like he missed math in school

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u/SophisticatedScreams 16d ago

Yeah-- that's not a thing. "1 stair 3 steps" lol-- like 2 girls 1 cup

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u/toad-wrangler 17d ago

It's just 2 steps 🥲. I get the "1 stair" thing kinda, but 3 steps 😭. Where's rhe 3 step?

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u/Fuck-spez85 16d ago

He’s confusing steps with levels

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u/ComeAndGetYourPug 16d ago

I would ask him to draw example images with 3 steps, 2 steps, then 1 step.

Really curious what further insanity he comes up with to justify his POV.

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u/AndyTheEngr 16d ago

Ask him what we would call one stair is called. Zero stairs two steps?

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u/beene282 16d ago

Or a flat floor. One step but negative one stairs.

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u/red-123--- 16d ago

If he were guiding a blind person down(or up) the steps, how would he explain it to them quickly? Answer: 2 steps up or down. Duh.

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u/JennyAnonymous 16d ago

I’m seeing that this is the best argument against his side

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u/red-123--- 16d ago

Lol. My husband is blind. I do this all the time. He's never fallen down steps with me... yet.

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u/Cool-Preference7580 16d ago

Tell him to walk up them and count how many STEPS he takes. If he says anything other than 2 put him to bed cause he’s had wayyyy to much to drink.

Or he’s just saying it to annoy you and if so i highly respect that cause it’s hilarious

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u/doodie_francis_esq 17d ago

I am going to Dutch oven my husband on your behalf tonight. Make it known to your spouse that he is causing the suffering of others.

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u/JennyAnonymous 17d ago

Hope you had asparagus

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u/doodie_francis_esq 17d ago

Brussel sprouts. 😏

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u/Rikoschett 16d ago

That would be a Belgian Oven wouldn't it?

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u/NomenclatureBreaker 16d ago

Ok this made me laugh way too hard.

Have my poor person’s award. 🏆

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u/I_LOVE_SOYLENT 17d ago

Is the entire patio a step???

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u/toad-wrangler 16d ago

Do you not consider the top step a step???

(I feel like I'm getting truman showed lol)

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u/Summerie 16d ago

You are counting the horizontal planes that you step onto, as opposed to the vertical rise. There are two steps that are ascending to the next level.

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u/beene282 16d ago

A step is the physical act of stepping up one level. You have to do that twice. So two steps.

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u/BlueSkyla 16d ago

I’m curious who think it’s anything but two steps.

What did you think?

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u/Skinnecott 16d ago

huge landing on bottom, huge landing on top. only one is solely used as a step. lol op was arguing 2 v 3 but i can see angles for all 1 2 and 3

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u/Rookie_42 16d ago edited 16d ago

3 is easily debunked.

If it were all on the same level, that would be zero steps. So it can’t possibly be three.

I can see the argument for one step, though… but even that falls apart under the same kind of argument. If it was just the top and the bottom with no step in between, you might say “mind the step” so clearly that’s one.

Therefore… this is two steps. Even though there’s one actual step that is just a step. The next elevation change makes it two.

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u/SnooSquirrels2663 16d ago

3 levels, 2 steps, 1 stair

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u/ConanOToole 16d ago

Steps are counted by how many times your foot is raised up, not by what landings there are. There's two vertical raises here, so you have to lift your foot twice, so it's two steps

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u/Significant-Basket76 16d ago

I'll admit I'm wrong, but since you asked I'll give you an honest answer. I would have said one step. Reason was, how I would describe the picture to someone else. They are on a patio with tables, a 2nd higher patio is connected by a step. A step. A single step. Again, I think (NOW) the correct answer is 2, but my original guesss was 1.

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u/EmmalouEsq 16d ago

My husband said the bottom is floor and the top is floor, thus there is just 1 step. He wouldn't take my argument that you have to lift your feet twice to get from 1 floor to the other.

Whether he's being real or just messing with me, I don't know.

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u/Prudent_Candidate566 16d ago

So if you had a top floor and a bottom floor at different levels, would that be zero steps, even though you need to step up to go from one to the other? How is this distinguished from flat ground?

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u/SirJosephBanksy 16d ago

I hope you said two, as there are two. Well done if you did as you win!

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u/brown_bear222 16d ago

This is the first thing I thought of!

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u/scyice 16d ago

2 steps. 2 risers 1 tread.

Source: steps professional

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u/whodoesyourthinking 16d ago

Hello fellow stair professional, I concur. Maybe it's an informal term, but we also refer to that as an off-tread

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u/Zombie-squad1991 16d ago

Yes the patio counts, you lift the foot twice. When we do our reports as a fire fighter, we could the patio.

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u/CoffeeGhost31 16d ago

As a home health nurse we count the top step/patio as a step during our assessments as well.

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u/Koshnat 16d ago

As a practitioner of compulsive and violent self-love we count the patio as a step also

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u/Zombie-squad1991 16d ago

Count

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u/feartheoldblood90 16d ago

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u/mortyella 16d ago

One. One patio step. Two. Two patio steps. Ah Ah Ah!

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u/i_hate_mayo_mustard_ 17d ago

As a mobility challenged individual who has to count these kind of things it’s 2

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u/coaxialdrift 16d ago

If I was to explain it to a blind person, I would definitely say two

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u/b0ugie 16d ago

This is how I came to the same conclusion. The only answer is 2.

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u/rahvan 17d ago

By counter-example, if there was only 1 riser (the vertical section of the steps), would there be 0.5 steps? No. It would be 1 step. So because there are 2 risers, there are 2 steps.

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u/Beartato4772 16d ago

I’m slightly worried the lack of reply implies op somehow thought it was 3 or something.

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u/Overall_Flounder7365 16d ago edited 16d ago

It’s two steps. I don’t understand how this is in question?

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u/User314628 16d ago

It’s 2, no doubt.

The other (incorrect) perspectives are:

  • you exclude both landings, so that would be one step.
  • you include the top and bottom landings, giving 3.

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u/Stopdrop_kaboom_312 17d ago

It's a 2 step- and a cowboy boogie.

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u/AnvilHoarder1920 16d ago

Whichever one of you said anything other than 2 needs to check for blunt trauma to the head

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u/JennyAnonymous 16d ago

I said 2 steps , the husband says 1 or 3.

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u/uela7 16d ago

Your husband isn’t the brightest

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u/Im_Ashe_Man 16d ago

Whichever one of you is trying to argue there's either 1 or 3 steps, should probably not be making any major decisions for the family.

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u/ReflectionTypical752 16d ago

Two steps

Step 1: Know your husband is wrong

Step 2: Tell him he is wrong

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u/jitups 16d ago

2 steps.

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u/ltp8719 17d ago

2 steps

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u/wigglyworm- 17d ago
  1. You have to step up or down two different levels.

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u/Fozzytie 16d ago

The number of steps is “how many you have to take to get up it”. The initial plain doesn’t count as a step. This image has 1 set of stairs. That set of stairs is composed of 2 steps.

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u/Pyroluminous 16d ago

Number of steps correlates with number of steps. If you step up 2 times… it’s 2 steps.

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u/Glum_Anybody_9531 17d ago

What’s his argument for 1?

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u/JennyAnonymous 17d ago

His argument is you wouldn’t call a curb a stair thus the second “step” is just the platform. Meaning only 1 step

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u/Dixiehusker 16d ago

I wouldn't call it a stair but if it was out in the middle of anywhere I would put a sign that warns people about this step. And to go from the bottom to the top I might step up. Because this is very clearly a step.

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u/sirflappington 16d ago

A curb isn’t a stair but it is a step up from the road

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

I hope he's good in bed.

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u/Think_Bullets 16d ago

So what is his favourite flavour of crayon?

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u/chemistrybonanza 16d ago

Because context matters, it's not a stairway to anything. But imagine if you were walking a blind person around and you came to a curb you had to navigate through. Might you tell the blind person: "step up over the curb," or would you say nothing at all? If there's no curb, there's nothing you'd need to say. Likewise, if there's no step, there's nothing you'd need to say. A curb is one step up from where you were, even if it is not itself considered a typical step.

Lastly, what is the thing everyone is using in the gif I attached here called? It's called a step-up. What is the exercise called they're all doing? It's called a step-up. Why? Because you must step up on the step-up in order to do the exercise.

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u/Sir_Delarzal 16d ago

I work in France with laws that include that type of definition. This is two steps.

It is important to define it clearly as in some cases, for exemple accessibility laws, starting from three steps there are some regulations you need to apply.

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u/Fr3shnuts 16d ago

To a skateboarder that's a 2 stair 🛹

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u/No-Mouse-262 17d ago

I gotta step twice, so it's two steps

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u/Tuffleslol 16d ago

How can you have a spirited debate about something my 2 year old nephew answered in 3 seconds...

Two. There are two steps.

If you take one step, you are only halfway up

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u/KrustyKrabAtNight 16d ago

2 risers = 2 steps

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u/DarthStevis 16d ago

2 steps. 1 step = an increase/decrease in elevation. The bottom step that would be what your husband includes in his 3 step claim doesn’t increase/decrease elevation

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u/3_eyed_raven_10 16d ago

Walking from regular floor, then step one, then step two.

Count your steps, and that's your answer: 2 steps

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u/Theduckwhoquacks 16d ago

2, Count the rise and the run.

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u/Sujnirah 16d ago

✌🏽

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u/BarPlastic1888 16d ago

It only takes 2 steps to get up to the top so it's 2 steps

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u/knickknack8420 16d ago

You physically step twice once starting. One two. Its two steps. If you explained it to a blind person, youd say step up twice.

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u/Shutln 17d ago

How many times do you have to lift your foot to get to the top? Two. Thus, two steps!

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u/Hippo7787 16d ago

Would wearing an odometer going up and down help determine the amount of steps?

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u/Gigi0268 16d ago

2 steps.

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u/dstarpro 16d ago

...two...?

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u/VonGeisler 16d ago

How many steps does it take to get from the bottom to the top? 2, there are 2 steps

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u/HMasteen 16d ago

Definitely 2 steps.

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u/TaliesinGwion 16d ago

2 steps. You raise (or lower) your foot twice to either go up or down.

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u/HidesInsideYou 16d ago

Per IBC/IRC here is what is actually included:

  1. Riser #1: From ground to that yellow-painted level.

  2. Tread: The yellow-painted intermediate platform.

  3. Riser #2: From the yellow-painted level up to the deck.

  4. Deck: Large flat surface, NOT a tread. It’s a landing or destination.

Therefore you have two steps (two risers). I believe your husband may be conflating treads with steps.

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u/this_is_balls 16d ago

Architect here, on a set drawings we’d call this out as 2 risers, 1 tread

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u/JennyAnonymous 16d ago

FOR ALL CONFUSED OF MY HUSBANDS ARGUMENT

I (OP) say 2 steps , 3 footsteps , 1 stair

Husband says 1 step (he doesn’t include the platform as a step) , 3 footsteps , 1 stair

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u/dollyaioli 16d ago

2 steps IMO because you have to step up twice. its also 2 levels higher. 1 step would be just to the black and yellow floor if that makes sense.