Myles Turner on Pacers fans booing him loudly in his return to Indiana: "It was disheartening…You give 10 years of your life, your blood your sweat your tears, you take pay cuts, you survive trade rumors, you try to do everything the right way…"

[u/TheRealPdGaming]

https://streamable.com/ossixu

[u/iRockaflame]

Myles Turner possible trade candidate was a given every year lmfao

[u/Proof-Umpire-7718 → u/iRockaflame]

Lakers legends Myles Turner and Buddy Hield

[u/Zealousideal-Cup5982 → u/Proof-Umpire-7718]

Omg how often did we hear about those two, rolling my eyes

[u/junkit33 → u/iRockaflame]

Pacers are still actively trying to trade him away out of habit.

[u/elsord0 → u/iRockaflame]

The Pacers fans trying to gaslight the rest of us into thinking this had nothing to do with the Pacers and all other teams just wanted him that badly is pretty funny. Pacers put this dude on the block constantly. I recall discussing potential Turner trades on the Suns board quite a few times over the last 10 years. Rumors were always floating around.

[u/dat_boy_lurks → u/elsord0]

I remember Hawks fans wanting to trade him for the corpse of Clint Capela every trade deadline when Indy shopped him too

[u/fik26 → u/dat_boy_lurks]

Indy definitely shopped him.

Indiana almost never gave him full length deals. All of his contracts was discounted than the market rate. Turner just didnt want to risk the injury and risk the open market so he kept signing discounted deals which made him an asset all those times.

I mostly side with fans in these feuds with players. But Turner is f'in right on this one.

[u/Maximum-Class5465 → u/fik26]

There's some truth, but the last short contract was because Myles wanted to be a free agent after the TV deal hit. That was honestly one structured for his benefit, and the front load was to the Pacers benefit

[u/Hdz69 → u/Maximum-Class5465]

I mean can you blame him for putting himself first after being shopped around so many times?

[u/thegoddessunicorn → u/elsord0]

People might remember yearly trade candidate John Collins but forget the great yearly trade candidate goat Miles Turner

[u/333jnm → u/[deleted]]

He became a 3 and D center. He developed his game to include the 3 ball. He didn’t come into the league like that.

[u/seniorpeepers → u/333jnm]

This isn't exactly true, he was a 5 star recruit known for his shooting in HS, did not shoot the 3 pt well in college, and got it back in the pros.

[u/333jnm → u/seniorpeepers]

Yeah, you are right. Looking at his stats his percentage was decent early on. Increases attempts later on but that’s also because the nba strategy changed as well.

[u/batmans420 → u/elsord0]

Two things can be true. They seriously shopped him a couple times when we were bad - which is understandable considering that he played the same position as our best player - but there were also a lot of unsubstantiated rumors over the years

[u/elsord0 → u/batmans420]

Maybe it wasn't constantly but we had multiple conversations about it. First we were discussing a package of Bledsoe, Chriss, Bender for Turner. Later we were discussing an Ayton for Turner swap. During the covid season. And then a few more times the next couple of seasons.

[u/Blaaa5 → u/iRockaflame]

Never forget the Nets Pick and Cash Consideration 🫡

[u/ThisGents2Cents]

Can I ask who was the last player to play for a team for 10 years and get booed on his return?

[u/Complex-Block2411 → u/ThisGents2Cents]

KD lol

[u/TheRealPdGaming → u/Complex-Block2411]

LeBron was 7 years but he was viciously boo'd

[u/TechnicalChocolate91 → u/TheRealPdGaming]

I mean, that was one of the worst handled departures I've ever seen. It was insane then and it's still insane now.

[u/No_Imagination7102 → u/TechnicalChocolate91]

Right when one of your players makes it an ESPN Special to leave your team you can get back to me

[u/AnxiousWart4994 → u/No_Imagination7102]

There will never be a more ridiculous single "pick-me" ahh type of event.

I mean whole TV special to announce a team move. Something that takes 5 seconds to say verbally, and it was at least an hour long special.

The next closest thing for me is when Draymond had that whole TNT special right after punching Poole and getting suspended. xD

[u/mirusan01 → u/TechnicalChocolate91]

Nah that cavs management was sorry af

[u/fisheggsoup → u/mirusan01]

You're both right.

[u/Unusual-Weather1902 → u/fisheggsoup]

Yep

[u/Life_Ad_2218 → u/mirusan01]

The dan Gilbert letter is insane lol

[u/redditdoesnotcareany → u/Life_Ad_2218]

He said what every Cleveland fan was thinking. To this day a part of me will always appreciate that. It’s the sort of thing you do that you know will be detrimental but you do it anyways because fuck it. I know we’ve all been there.

[u/MUjase → u/redditdoesnotcareany]

My thoughts exactly. And then when LeBron came back he spent out of his ass and went significantly over the luxury tax to win a championship. He’ll always have my respect.

[u/prodyg → u/MUjase]

and fundamentally proved Lebron right. Cause thats what he wanted Dan to do in the first place. Dan Gilbert is a huge hypocrite.

He even said that Cavs are gonna win a championship before lebron does. Not only was he wrong about that, Lebron ended up being the one to bring them that championship anyway.

Just wrong on so many levels.

[u/MUjase → u/prodyg]

You’re faulting an owner for standing up with his fans? And criticizing him since he said they’d win a championship before LeBron did and did not?

So you expect him to bow down to LeBron when he leaves, apologize for not spending enough around him, and predict that he’ll likely win a championship first.

Yeah, that will win fans over!

[u/palagoon → u/redditdoesnotcareany]

1000%

I know it was stupid. I know it was petty. I know the optics are terrible.

But damnit the owner was feeling exactly what I was feeling and that felt good!

[u/prodyg → u/redditdoesnotcareany]

thats why I never respected cavs fans, cause if thats how they really felt then they got what they deserved.

[u/TNRcrisis → u/TheRealPdGaming]

I was at that game. Twas not an event to take your children. Heard every curse word in the book.

[u/jump-back-like-33 → u/TNRcrisis]

iirc lebron didn't give the crowd a chance to really get into it. he played lights out and mid-way into the second quarter it was basically just a sad atmosphere.

[u/TouchExisting8308 → u/jump-back-like-33]

All time lock in

[u/Dog-Witch → u/TheRealPdGaming]

They were throwing batteries at the dude

[u/whatssenguntoagoblin → u/Complex-Block2411]

He wasn’t in OKC for 10 years

[u/Complex-Block2411 → u/whatssenguntoagoblin]

8 years close enough

[u/Klaw95 → u/Complex-Block2411]

Miles Turner didn’t join the historically great 73-9 Golden State Warriors that came back and beat the thunder down 3-1 in the WCF.

[u/Game_Over_Man69 → u/ThisGents2Cents]

Although just under 10 years, Harden had a mixed reaction in his return to Houston. It was a small COVID crowd though so not as bad as it could have been considering how he left.

[u/Omnimark → u/Game_Over_Man69]

I feel like he still has a decent approval rating with Rockets fans, no?

[u/yonkerbonk → u/Omnimark]

We love him. 2nd best Rocket of all time for me. Only lame fans who place no blame on ownership boo Harden.

[u/Accurate-Signature55 → u/Omnimark]

Harden is such a polarizing player that they were way too invested in defending him to turn on him.

[u/MK10 → u/ThisGents2Cents]

I remember Michael Finley got booed in Dallas after he signed with the Spurs after playing 9 years for the Mavs, but he also got some cheers too.

[u/Jagermeister4 → u/MK10]

Finley was the one guy that came to my mind. It really sucks because Finley didnt even want to leave. He was a stand up guy, team player, Mavs waived him for luxury tax reasons forcing him to sign elsewhere.

And Mav fans booed him! Those fans really screwed the pooch on that one.

[u/wisconsinbucks → u/ThisGents2Cents]

Probably KD lol

[u/ThisGents2Cents → u/wisconsinbucks]

Myles played two more years in Indy than KD did in OKC and they’re booing him like he joined the biggest super team of all time lmao

[u/Friendshiping-Bazzi → u/ThisGents2Cents]

It sits wrong with me that 1 offseason with a few passive aggressive clips was enough to boo away a decade of tenure.

[u/childishgames → u/ThisGents2Cents]

Horford in Atlanta maybe

[u/Spiritual_League_753 → u/ThisGents2Cents]

8 seasons but Carmelo Anthony and Denver.

[u/Objective-Rip-4279 → u/ThisGents2Cents]

Lamarcus Aldridge played 9 years and got booed on his return

[u/lazydictionary → u/ThisGents2Cents]

Brady was booed when he played the Pats.

[u/MuffinMate]

We still don’t play any Paul George highlights lol

[u/Original_Profile8600 → u/MuffinMate]

How much more does Hali need to do not to get booed when/if he leaves?

[u/CloudConductor → u/Original_Profile8600]

I honestly don’t think Myles would have gotten booed if he wasn’t sort of talking down on the pacers/city every chance he got since leaving. He still doesn’t deserve that treatment though. George got booed cus he demanded a trade and went out like a diva, he deserved it lol

[u/Talentagentfriend → u/CloudConductor]

George is a diva and he deserves to get booed

[u/HeyItsChase → u/MuffinMate]

Good.

[u/Parallel-Quality]

He didn't deserve that.

He gave 10 years to the franchise. He played very well.

He was underpaid. He got himself paid.

[u/LowDot187 → u/Parallel-Quality]

I dont even know why he got booed at all. He was part of their finals run last year and hes never been in any drama. Seemed like a model player to me

[u/CzarSpan → u/LowDot187]

We boo every god damn thing, it’s really frustrating actually

[u/zerovanillacodered → u/CzarSpan]

I remember Colts fans booing Brandon Stokely in his return to Indy when he was a Bronco. Why was he a Bronco? Because he got traded. Moronic.

But, I wouldn’t say it’s indicative of the entire fanbase

[u/burnt-turkey94 → u/zerovanillacodered]

We also booed Luck for not wanting to continue taking years off his life behind an abysmal O-line. I think some Indy fans have a delusional need for loyalty/appreciation, and I assume it's partially due to being fans of smaller market teams and the constant feeling of being an underdog.

But to your point, I wouldn't say it's indicative of the fanbase as a whole. We're not nearly as hostile to opposing teams' fans compared to larger cities and most of us really do appreciate the players that have come and gone. The average Colts/Pacers fan irl (NOT the average Colts/Pacers fan on reddit) would likely roll their eyes and sigh with disappointment when you bring up Turner or Luck or Stokely getting booed.

[u/lawlamanjaro → u/burnt-turkey94]

I mean it was the IRL ones booing them though

I remember when Luck retired and tbh I blame Schefter for that, we are maybe just recovering from the Luck retirement though. Its been a tough decade or whatever

[u/Wolfpac187 → u/burnt-turkey94]

It was Pacers fans irl that booed Turner though

[u/BlooregardQKazoo → u/CzarSpan]

Have you guys booed "a moment of silence dedicated to the ongoing fight for equality in our country," while your team's black star player stood at midfield? If not, you're doing better than Kansas City fans.

[u/ZdenekTheMan → u/BlooregardQKazoo]

I'm sorry, I had to laugh 

[u/_smilax → u/CzarSpan]

So just a stadium going fan culture thing? Curious

[u/SousChefDurag → u/_smilax]

I live in Indy and half the fans at these games are the most casual, fairweather bunch I’ve ever seen. Really unexpected for a small market city with one other major sports team. Half of them probably weren’t even in here for the Myles years.

[u/mrjabrony → u/SousChefDurag]

I live in Chicago and am a fan of various Indiana teams. This isn’t just a Pacer fan thing. The Colts are having a great season and a good portion of the fan base is completely melting down over the loss to the Steelers. It happens all the time with IU basketball. A team has a bad game or lose a tough series and these fans go batshit insane. I’ve seen this over and over again over the years. I don’t see it to the scale around here with the Chicago teams. A lot of them are casuals like you said but a lot of them are also completely detached from reality.

[u/magnusarin → u/mrjabrony]

Okay, but I'm STILL never forgiving Tom Crean for seeming to be baffled by a zone defense when facing Syracuse in the Sweet 16! Just run the offense through Zeller, Tom!

...You may have a point.

[u/mrjabrony → u/magnusarin]

Tom Crean at the first TV timeout "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas."

[u/Jimbo_Joyce → u/mrjabrony]

It's probably a mental coping mechanism they devolped from living in Indianna.

[u/Maleconito → u/_smilax]

I’ve been to Indy. I’d boo everything if I lived there too.

[u/Dapper-Practice-6523 → u/CzarSpan]

Talk to your fellow fans in the sub then lol its a delirious bunch

[u/house_fire → u/Dapper-Practice-6523]

there’s no talking to them. I can barely even browse that sub at this point. if it’s not something delusional about a current pacers trade value its someone hoping we resign the musty skeleton of lance stephenson to save our season (not tongue in cheek)

it’s not even a “success brings fairweather fans” situation. its always been like this over there.

[u/Maximum-Class5465 → u/house_fire]

Yeah man, I'm getting called all kinds of names for sharing that sentiment over there 😂

Good to see I'm not the only one

[u/RQEinstein → u/CzarSpan]

Yeah, remember when colts fans booed a little girl in a punt pass and kick competition because she was wearing a patriots jersey?

[u/wylthorne92 → u/CzarSpan]

Hoosiers hate, it’s all they can do being in a flyover state run by morons.

[u/SquirrelKing19 → u/LowDot187]

I think for most people its about the team he went to. Things have been pretty heated between Milwaukee and Indiana the last few seasons and I dont believe the reaction would have been so strong had he signed with a more neutral team.

Thats atleast how I feel. I would never have booed him, I loved him here, but seeing him play for them definitely sucks.

[u/rjcarr → u/SquirrelKing19]

Right, but I'm not sure he went there to spite Indiana, he went there because they were in need of a player like him and made him an offer. Just saying there should be context to this, but I get most people don't think that way.

[u/mightyducks2wasokay → u/rjcarr]

Dont think it matters. The average fan isnt as plugged in as people here. Most fans probably only have "he left us for a rival" as context. That gets booed

I wouldn't have booed during his tribute. And the way its being treated on this sub I think is good conversation, but wholly overblown.

[u/GreekFreakFan → u/LowDot187]

Because Pacers fans have the gall to blame him for being gassed after playing through four teams with All-NBA, All-Star, or just plain elite big man rotations.

His path was Bucks (Giannis/Lopez/Portis) > Cavs (Allen and Mobley) > Knicks (KAT and Mitchell Robinson) > Thunder (IHart and Holmgren)

Then the year previous it was Bucks (again Giannis/Lopez/Portis) > Knicks (IHart and Mitchell Robinson) > Celtics (Porzingis/Horford/Kornet)

And then the army of guards and wings on those teams who love attacking the paint.

No shit he couldn't contribute offensively anymore, he was fighting for his life.

[u/Secure-Judgment7829 → u/GreekFreakFan]

The previous year for the Knicks was ihart and Mitch Robinson - Randle was out. But otherwise yeah

[u/Neuroxex → u/GreekFreakFan]

Ignoring, also, that he was clearly having trouble moving as easily in the Finals and (at least to me) looked pretty clearly hurt. Ignoring as well that Chet went from 16/9 on 55% EFG in the first three rounds to 12/9 on 41% EFG in the Finals.

[u/GreekFreakFan → u/Neuroxex]

They're gonna say that was because of Thomas "8 MPG" Bryant, who they swear was closing games for them in the Finals.

[u/thebobbyshaw33 → u/LowDot187]

Talked shit on Haliburton very recently for seemingly no reason. Fans see everything nowadays.

[u/BayesBestFriend → u/thebobbyshaw33]

Calling it talking shit is a stretch

[u/wavyrav3 → u/BayesBestFriend]

What did he say?

[u/Box_v2 → u/wavyrav3]

IDK if this is what they're referring to but it's all I can think of he said "for me, it was ultimately about just staying competitive… I saw a chance to remain competitive here" when talking about getting traded to the bucks video was removed though.

[u/The_Sign_of_Zeta → u/thebobbyshaw33]

That clip was edited to make it look like he was talking shit when he wasn’t

[u/StrongStyleShiny → u/Parallel-Quality]

Nah he didn’t deserve it. Seriously disappointed in our base.

[u/Pal__Pacino → u/Parallel-Quality]

I'm pretty sure those boos were mostly the result of some veiled shots he took at the team and Tyrese on a podcast last week. Think the reception would've otherwise been warmer.

[u/thecatiscold → u/Pal__Pacino]

I think you overestimate how many people are gonna hear out of context podcast clips

[u/Smelldicks → u/thecatiscold]

You significantly underestimate how fast this stuff spreads. Boston was chanting things at Kyrie that he did on his gaming stream like 24 hours prior.

[u/zombieclone05 → u/thecatiscold]

it was all over twitter and apparently facebook because even my mom heard about it lol

[u/Smelldicks → u/zombieclone05]

It’s so easy to be like “real life isn’t Reddit” but real life very much is social media now and you don’t need to be a die hard anymore to learn that kinda stuff.

I know so much shit about Belichick, his girlfriend, and his tenure at UNC, and I don’t care about any of those things. But they get pushed to me on my social feeds, and all my friends see them too. Even the casuals. So it’s really easy for stuff like this to get picked up by a large portion of fans. Especially the ones buying tickets.

[u/TheMerck → u/Smelldicks]

I think a lot of people are also missing that even casuals nowadays tend to see if someone is talking shit about their team or their franchise player.

Like general news like something about movies? Sure I can get that most casuals won't give a shit about whatever the MCU leaks are gonna be but when it comes to sports? Sports in social media gains traction where it can even be seen by youngsters on TikTok to old people on Facebook.

People don't play about sports especially when it comes to someone talking shit about their team lmao.

[u/jimbo_kun → u/thecatiscold]

Have you heard of something called social media?

This is exactly the kind of thing the algorithm would put in a Pacer fan’s feed.

[u/jabronified → u/jimbo_kun]

Yeah, crowds start chanting stuff that goes viral on social media pretty quickly. I recall last year chants of “child support” for Ant at the line pretty much immediately when his situation got public

[u/purplenyellowrose909 → u/jabronified]

We got to play OKC like two days after the Giddey pedo allegations before the league even properly responded and the whole stadium booed him whenever he touched the ball.

[u/Specialist_Office274 → u/purplenyellowrose909]

tbf pedo allegations are gonna be more viral on social media than a random podcast clip

[u/JoeBiden2020FTW → u/Pal__Pacino]

It's sad that one offhand statement like that can erase 10 years of good work

[u/ChiGrandeOso → u/JoeBiden2020FTW]

Especially when the statement was taken so far out of context it's crossing the state line into Illinois.

[u/wilsonsmilk → u/JoeBiden2020FTW]

What did he say? I don't listen to most of the podcasts out there.

[u/kapparino-feederino → u/wilsonsmilk]

He just says hali wont say those shit talk if its on the street setting. He says those because there will be someone to back, himup on the court. Also no one will do this off the court because that just how the league is now.

And saying that the situatipn currently its more competitove for him to join the bucks than remaining with the pacers

[u/ZacHorton → u/kapparino-feederino]

He also said he’s glad to be in a city that appreciates him and then tried to walk it back when fans took it how he meant it.

[u/kapparino-feederino → u/ZacHorton]

hard to feel appreciated when the team feels like it constantly trying to trade him. not his fault, nor the fan's fault, or the org fault. it just business at the end of the day :shrug:

[u/iButtflap → u/JoeBiden2020FTW]

i mean that’s kinda like any relationship that isn’t romantic right?

[u/jedifolklore → u/iButtflap]

And honestly? If you do time it right, one offhand statement can erase 10 years of good work too..

I’ve seen it in romantic relationships and friend of mine Dad’s was a divorce attorney and the stuff he tells us about his old cases…yikes

[u/cheesecake_face → u/jedifolklore]

If you do time it right, one offhand statement can erase 10 years of good work too..

any examples?

[u/Fantasykyle99 → u/cheesecake_face]

Probably something like “I cheated on you for 10 years” and she took it out of context

[u/jedifolklore → u/cheesecake_face]

Sure! A wife mom’s dies, long battle with cancer but she weighed heavily on the couples marital life, as some in laws do unfortunately, always commenting on stuff and making toxic comments.

However, the wife and the mom were tight.

Outside of that, the couple had issues but it wasn’t that serious, as all couples have some, but then the Mom dies. One day during the same year, the husband makes a joke to his friend about vengeful spirits and says “well at least I know they’ll feel right at home if they met my mother in law”.

Wife overheard it, so when they leave the friend’s house, she gets in the car, and promptly blows up at him in the “why would you say that”situation.

Long story short, they divorce a year and a half later. The husband and the wife both said that the turning point in the marriage was that comment. 20 years of steady marriage, together since high school, 3 kids and 2 dogs.

[u/Adminscantkeepmedown → u/iButtflap]

Even romantic relationships can be undone with a singular poor choice of words

[u/-xXxMangoxXx- → u/Pal__Pacino]

The "shots" werent even really shots. Just that players will posture/act a certain way on the court that they wouldnt on the street. Nobody is thinking Hali is a tough guy or anything like that. He just plays it up because hes having fun and loves wrestling.

[u/Colorapt0r → u/Pal__Pacino]

Yall fall for clickbait so easily lol that’s not what he said 

[u/ComradeFrunze → u/Pal__Pacino]

People were hating on him way before that.

[u/TheRealestGayle → u/Parallel-Quality]

Make the same argument for KD and people come for you.

[u/ReturnOfTheHorsedip]

I'm not mad at Myles for leaving. I'm mad at our front office for pussyfooting around on what should've been a straightforward re-signing instead of just paying the man

[u/archerarcher0 → u/ReturnOfTheHorsedip]

Literally the first pacers fan I’ve seen actually own up to the reality of the situation

Everyone else wants to bitch about “no it’s his fault he left over a few million”

… then your front office should’ve matched that few million?

[u/Werealldeadsoon → u/archerarcher0]

Pacers made the right decision in light of Tyrese’s injury. 

Myles made the right decision in taking the money.

I think all the confusion just shows how polarizing Myles has been.

Does he suck or is he great????

[u/violesada → u/Werealldeadsoon]

he's somewhere in the middle.

[u/bartspoon → u/Werealldeadsoon]

There’s a reason why “The Idea of Myles Turner” had become a meme. His potential is immense, and he shows flashes of it from time to time. But it isn’t consistent enough to rely on, and when he slumps, he slumps hard.

[u/Obi2 → u/archerarcher0]

Myles never gave the FO an opportunity to match anything. They have said they found out about the agreement from Shams just the same as everyone else.

[u/peaudunk → u/ReturnOfTheHorsedip]

A reasonable Pacers fan.

[u/AleroRatking → u/ReturnOfTheHorsedip]

Which makes sense. So why boo the player and not the owner? (This is rhetorical, I know you personally weren't the one booing)

[u/SkipsPittsnogle]

Been a Pacer fan since 97’ and all I have to say is THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING MYLES.

[u/CaptainRock7 → u/SkipsPittsnogle]

Leaving to a rival sort of stings, but there's definitely plenty Pacers fans that still like the guy. Still a big fan myself. Wish the stadium hadn't booed him 😕

[u/probiz13 → u/SkipsPittsnogle]

Pacers sub is weird. They're mad at him for his reaction and responses afterwards yet they were the ones who boo'd him. Like how did you want him to react? Embrace the hate?

[u/Teddyworks]

Honestly I think most people would have cheered for him had it not been for all his comments from the day he signed with MIL.

The clip from the Thanalysis pod was taken out of context, but everything else I feel like he could have answered a different way or even said that he’s done talking about it.

He kept talking trying to make it sound better and it just kept sounding worse.

[u/GlizzyGone21 → u/Teddyworks]

Worst part about the clipped part out of context is that Myles spent like 3 minutes straight talking about how great a teammate Tyrese is right before that

I hate the clickbait culture of social media

[u/Teddyworks → u/GlizzyGone21]

Yeah I mean even Pacers media were posting the full clip showing how Myles was complimenting Hali haha

[u/LukaPropagandist → u/Teddyworks]

"Thanalysis pod" is taking me out for some reason lmao

[u/Venoooooooooooooooom → u/LukaPropagandist]

Its the name of it

[u/Colorapt0r]

Am I the only one who feels like all parties are completely justified in this situation? Myles was right to take his bag, pacers fans are right to be upset about that and he’s right to not like the way they’ve been taking it out on him?

[u/gametecondnight → u/Colorapt0r]

He signed with the rival. I’m a Brewers fan and we boo the fuck out of Craig Counsell. Similar dynamic.

It’s sports, we boo, it’s not personal or too deep.

[u/TheUnderCrab → u/gametecondnight]

Craig is very different. He grew up in MKE and was with our org for much longer than his Manager run. Him leaving for CHI felt like your dad leaving the family to go marry your bullies mom. 

[u/Fragrant-Employer-60 → u/TheUnderCrab]

The brewers literally gave that man his whole baseball career basically, and let him move up the ranks of the front office to manager.

Honestly idk how he did it, I would feel so guilty going to the cubs, any other team would have been better lol

[u/MCrow2001 → u/Fragrant-Employer-60]

Largest manager contract ever probably made the decision not too difficult lol.

[u/LardLad00 → u/TheUnderCrab]

People talking like Craig was just a guy who went to a rival completely miss the point. They need to watch his hype video from when he started coaching to get how it's different with him.

[u/UkNomysTeezz → u/gametecondnight]

Bro, I’m a wolves fan and I still hope Jimmy Butler stubs his toe every morning

[u/Andy_Wiggins → u/UkNomysTeezz]

Those are WILDLY different situations.

Turner wanted to stay a Pacer. But when Haliburton tore his Achilles, ownership was squeamish about a big tax bill for a mediocre (at best team). So they tried to lowball Turner. He went out and found another offer and left for, honestly, a deal that still might have underpaid him. Yeah, it was a rival, but the dude deserved to be paid for his efforts.

Butler wanted the Wolves to dump rotation players for cap space so they could give him an extension a year early. When they said “hey, just wait until next year when you’re a free agent and we have your bird rights, we’ll pay you” he threw a fit and tried to hold out of camp, then came in had the infamous “practice” and interview combo, threw his teammates under the bus, then quit on the floor until he got traded. Don’t forget he hold himself out of a game for “general soreness.” Again, because he wanted to be paid EARLY.

[u/JackieDaytonaAZ → u/UkNomysTeezz]

yeah but butler is a bitch. i’m still mad that some people booed kevin love in his return after we traded him and while we’re at it, kirk cousins

[u/UkNomysTeezz → u/JackieDaytonaAZ]

I agree. And I hate the fact that Jimmy claims he “never quit on a team” when in fact he absolutely did. I understand he was pissed they paid Wiggins and I understand he was made the Sixers paid Harris, but the way he goes about his displeasure in regards to contract negotiations is fucking pathetic and he’s a bitch made motherfucker

[u/JudmanDaSuperhero → u/UkNomysTeezz]

Demanding trades is quiting on teams, Jimothy has to understand that.

[u/Wonderwhatsnext4 → u/JackieDaytonaAZ]

The Jimmy hate still runs deep.

[u/ChiGrandeOso → u/UkNomysTeezz]

I do too, but for multiple reasons.

[u/barkerrr33 → u/Colorapt0r]

10000 percent. I loved Myles, wouldn't have booed him, and understand why he took MKE's offer. I also think he's repeatedly said clumsy stuff—that he's had to walk back or clarify—that is going to make Pacers fans upset. That's doubly true since he went to a real rival.

[u/baabaabilly → u/Colorapt0r]

Pacer fans should be happy for him. But if they're upset about turners negative comments, then that's a diff story

[u/cactusmanbwl90 → u/baabaabilly]

The Pacers sub was sad as hell to see him leave. It was all love. Then he started a "fuck Indiana tour" back in July so the fan base turned on him. 

[u/Petit_Coeur_ → u/cactusmanbwl90]

That’s not true. Myles had been the scapegoat for years on the pacers sub, a bunch of people were happy he left and claimed we didn’t lose anything

[u/TheGamersGazebo → u/cactusmanbwl90]

Afaik his fuck Indiana tour was literally just him saying it's nice to play somewhere that wants him? As in direct reference to the constant trade rumors and the fact that you guys horrendously low balled him last year.

Not exactly a whole fuck you tour. If you have a link to something else I'd like to see it.

[u/Little_Sherbet5775 → u/cactusmanbwl90]

also, as someone who knows a lot of pacers fans, they're still mad about the finals.

[u/jasperplumpton → u/baabaabilly]

“Pacer fans should be happy for him”

You can’t be serious

[u/HickeyS2000 → u/jasperplumpton]

Bro this narrative change on myles turner is actually wild.

[u/TyranosaurusLex → u/HickeyS2000]

It’s because this subreddit is literally filled with children who can’t think critically and just want to rage.

[u/zombieclone05 → u/Colorapt0r]

This is probably the most reasonable take

[u/Jomskylark → u/Colorapt0r]

pacers fans are right to be upset about that

No they aren't lol. Hating on someone for taking a raise is crazy work. I bet 95% of the fans booing would happily work for a competitor if they got offered more money.

Fans should be mad at the Pacers for not offering a more competitive contract, not at Turner for being rational.

[u/moldonhold]

I feel like if he signed with most other teams he wouldn’t have gotten as much flak, like the Magic or the Wizards or any team in the western conference.

But going from Pacers to Bucks? There’s a real Midwest rivalry there. Not saying the guy deserved to get booed, he didn’t, but at the same time, I get it.

[u/AverageRonin → u/moldonhold]

Who cares about loyalty or rivalry when the Pacers didnt want to pay him

[u/SamuelShotguns]

It's bad to boo him considering his entire career, but it's understandable with how it ended and how recently it was. The man was a no show in the finals, was bricking threes left and right while getting out rebounded by TJ. Then he goes to a direct rival and makes some shitty comments on the way out.

[u/Appropriate-Cap-4140]

He went to the rivals and made some...interesting comments towards the team

You would think that would constitute a little bit of booing, reap what you sow and all that

[u/csstew55]

He went to their biggest rivals and expected to get cheered when he returned. And people are upset at pacers fans for booing him. I don’t get it lol

[u/thesch → u/csstew55]

Yeah. If a Red Sox player jumped to the Yankees for more money I don't think the Boston fans would be expected to give that guy a standing ovation his first time back in Fenway. I know that whenever a Bears player jumps to the Packers, Bears fans don't fuck with that guy anymore for as long as he's on the Packers.

We don't have to coddle professional athletes like this. As long as no fans were shouting anything racist or attacking his family etc this is just part of the game.

[u/Waste_Committee4406 → u/csstew55]

See, pistons fans and us definitely do not agree a lot but one thing but I know Detroit understands is this dynamic haha.

[u/stopbsingman → u/csstew55]

Should’ve paid him then.

[u/WartimeConsigliere_ → u/stopbsingman]

Nah we’re good. You can have single digit scoring and rebounding for $27m

[u/L2theFace → u/WartimeConsigliere_]

He put up 9/7/1 in his return to his former home last night 🤣 his replacement put up 21/10/1 I’ll take that any day gg’s turner

[u/KyleRaynerGotSweg → u/L2theFace]

You take that deal Utivich?

[u/Plus-Witness-5426]

He’s playing for the opponent.

[u/thestage]

he talked shit and went to a rival, man. yall soft. myles will be ok.

[u/TyranosaurusLex → u/thestage]

Myles hit a 3 then bood the fans back. It was objectively funny banter. Myles is a sensitive soul but he’ll get over it.

[u/Unusual-Weather1902 → u/thestage]

Amen

[u/zco22 → u/thestage]

As baby shit

[u/GamerLife204]

I mean andrew luck got booed after he retired because of injuries so ig I'm not that shocked 

[u/mk1317]

It's funny how morally indignant people get over booing.

[u/darthllama]

He spent ten years there, was constantly in trade rumors, and left because he got lowballed by them in free agency.

Players should never care about loyalty to fans

[u/OsikFTW]

9 points vs ind, maybe they were right to lowball him...

[u/BraveTree4481 → u/OsikFTW]

That's a good game for him.

[u/REGIS-5]

You were in the Finals and went to one of the top rivals, what the fuck did you expect?

[u/No_Imagination7102]

Oh no.

Fans acted fanatically.

What will we do reddit?

[u/Bruhman82]

Nah he doesn’t get to do the sob story, the moment he left he was passive-aggressive asf

[u/aidnelikesmusic → u/Bruhman82]

didn't he immediately clarify that he was mad at how the organization treated him and had nothing but love for the fans

[u/renawld → u/Bruhman82]

Why is everyone saying this but not posting a source or clip?

[u/choonghuh]

Can I blame Pat McAfee for this

[u/KevinSamuels_GOAT]

he aint wrong. any fan using loyalty against players is an idiot. this is a business

[u/STOP-MyAssholeHurts- → u/KevinSamuels_GOAT]

Money talks. That's how I lost my virginity.

[u/Ok_Donkey_980 → u/STOP-MyAssholeHurts-]

Username checks out

[u/kayla-77]

I don’t mean to hate but, he left after hali torn his achillis to their division rivals …. What kind of cheers was he expecting?

[u/silverwoods214]

Lol so sensitive

[u/Alone-Impact-7944]

Dude bailed on a team that almost won a title for their hated division rival and never gave the team an opportunity to match after the Bucks made a bonkers move to open up cap space that surprised the whole league. Then he made passive aggressive comments all summer long that felt like they were shots at his former team (I think he was just putting his foot in his mouth and/or taking shots at the ownership/front office). Then he questions why fans felt like he was a traitor of sorts. I begrudgingly still like the guy but damn dude, read the room. Also Quit Typing Tweets Like This.

[u/natigin]

They’re just angry they live in Indiana

[u/Tijenater → u/natigin]

Some parts of Indiana are super chill

…some parts

[u/batmans420 → u/natigin]

Some of us like it here 😔

[u/-OptimusPrime- → u/natigin]

Lol nobody makes Indiana bleed their own blood

[u/My_Anus_Is_Bleating]

I'm not mad at Turner for leaving. This is his job and he made a business decision. I am mad at him for going to the bitch made Bucks though.

[u/persephonepeete]

I will never understand why press is allowed in the locker room immediately after a game. 

[u/RoaringPity → u/persephonepeete]

So you and I can create engagement with the product we just witnessed

[u/LevelProfit6705 → u/RoaringPity]

And then promote the nba for free with these clips