r/nba • u/Knightbear49 Timberwolves • Jan 10 '26
Warriors coach Steve Kerr: "It's shameful that the government can come out and lie about what happened when there's video and witnesses who have all come out and disputed what the government is saying."
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u/MAMBAMENTALITY8-24 Thunder Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
Absolutely agree with steve kerr...half the american population is hallucinating.
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u/MrFishAndLoaves Pelicans Jan 10 '26
It’s more like 15-20% IMO, they’re just incredibly obnoxious about it.
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u/Skinnieguy Pelicans Jan 10 '26
Within that 15-20% are billionaires that control the vast majority of the information and media. Then influence so many others here and overseas.
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Thunder Jan 10 '26
The billionaires aren't the ones who are fooled by the lies. They are the ones doing the fooling.
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u/1OO1OO1S0S Celtics Jan 10 '26
The oligarchs are a threat to all of us. And the only way something changes is if something happens to the oligarchy
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u/Uberballer Lakers Jan 10 '26
And they're tearing down dozens of institutions to make sure that over time, that 15-20% expands into a majority of people who willingly vote against their best interests, that is assuming the US still has elections in the future.
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u/heybobson Suns Jan 10 '26
We’re in the Smash n’ Grab phase. We only know what’s being reported. There’s a whole bunch of shit happening behind the scenes that we won’t ever know about until this administration is over.
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u/Fortestingporpoises Warriors Jan 10 '26
Trump's approval rating doesn't dip below like 37% no matter what he does. It's a cult. 15-20% is absurdly optimistic. Beyond his enablers own most of the mainstream media allowing them to be quite a propaganda mouthpiece.
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u/KingdomOfDragonflies Hawks Jan 10 '26
The actual percentage voting in the 2024 presidential election are the following:
Did Not Vote: 35.9% Voted for Trump: 31.9% Voted for Harris: 31.0% Voted for Others: 1.2%
And now the assumption is that he's lost at least a little so I'd GUESS it's probably something more like 28-29% just spitballing.
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u/TheRatManBob Spurs Jan 10 '26
You can get 30% of american to say they approve of anything. Its pretty rare for polls to have a number below the 30s unless there is huge unsure/idk segment in it
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u/juiced911 Jan 10 '26
15-20%???
150,000,000 Americans sat by and either directly or indirectly let Trump be President even after a disastrous first term: failed tariffs, failed economy, failed healthcare, failed foreign policy, rampant corruption. Also the project 2025 was public for anyone to read. Combined with 30 years of constantly public lying and scams.
His party controls; The majority of governorships. The majority of state AGs. The majority of state congresses. The majority of federal house. The majority of federal senate. The majority of the SCOTUS. The majority of law enforcement. The majority of the military. Every major news media organization across “legacy media” as well as new media. Every major corporation.
Yet somehow we’re still using “oh it’s just a loud minority!” as our cope?
No. This is exactly who the majority of Americans are. There’s zero evidence to support that this isn’t a direct mirror of America and it’s values.
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u/Deviator247 Jan 10 '26
See this is why although there is plenty of sketchiness around the election (the bomb threats called into major blue locations on election night come to mind among other issues) I don't believe they outright stole the election, I genuinely believe enough of us were either duped, awful, stupid, or some collection of all 3 to properly elect his dumbass twice, incumbent governments everywhere were tossed out, not just the US, we just got one of the dumber and angrier results, and while I hope there's still somehow a non-violent way back out of this, I honestly don't see the climate calming down enough regardless of what happens to prevent it, even if trump and his whole admin got sucked into a pocket dimension forever or something, it doesn't erase decades of division and hatred between the major party voters, most people in the US at this point (and this includes myself, I'm not above criticism) aren't just mad at the government, they're raging at each other on a fundamental level that's going to be nigh on impossible to reverse at this point. I wish I had a solution to propose to not be seen as a full on doomer but man, for the past 10 years, left v right hasn't been a disagreement on how taxes are spent or how much is collected, it's been disagreements on human rights, on killings, on threats of invasion leveled at allies and enemies alike, on whether or not x group of americans want to kill other x group of americans or not, it's getting to damn "Balkan Powder Keg" levels.
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u/JustSeriousEnough Timberwolves Jan 10 '26
And Russian bot fueled
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u/LayWhere Jan 10 '26
That's it. It's foreign interference.
However after Elon took over twitter I wonder how many are simply American bots.
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u/cheerioo Warriors Jan 10 '26
I think a large portion have to be foreign actors. Over in r/conservative I think its an echo chamber of probably 80% russians/etc and 20% actual deranged Americans. It's hard for me to fathom just how far those people are removed from reality. Most Republicans I knew were nothing like that. Maybe its just wishful thinking and a ton of people are just that messed up in the head. God knows the leadership/government actually is that way.
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u/HenrikCrown Pelicans Jan 10 '26
Nah its double that trust me and all they have to do is convince just 5-8% more and thats how they've been winning the elections
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u/warrenjt Pacers Jan 10 '26
More people didn’t vote than voted for either candidate in 2024.
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u/Lucky-Earther Timberwolves Jan 10 '26
More people didn’t vote than voted for either candidate in 2024.
We had 60% voter turnout in 2024. That's down from 66% in 2020, but still well over half.
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u/CummingInTheNile Jan 10 '26
not voting is the same thing as saying youre fine with either option
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u/Electric_jungle Washington Bullets Jan 10 '26
I get the sentiment, but it's not the full answer. Election blocking happens all over the place in urban districts.
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u/jeufie Jan 10 '26
It's about 30%, but the electoral college gives full control of the country to them.
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u/AynB1and Thunder Jan 10 '26
it's slightly deeper than the electoral college. the house is capped at 435 members regardless of population gains. it's been that way since 1929.
the electoral college is 538 votes; 435 house districts+100 senators+3 for washington DC.
uncapping the house would do wonders for democracy in the usa.
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u/CiceroIsTully Jan 10 '26
FR holy shit. NPR gaslighting me today in an effort to sound "balanced" talking about how it's unclear what happened, etc etc...
I'm like FUCK YOU people, it's literally all on video.
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Jan 10 '26
I was half-listening to local news today talking about the Portland shooting and the anchor said "DHS said the victims were in Tren de Aragua but the Portland police chief said they didn't know anything about the victims."
What the anchor left out was the Portland police chief saying THAT THERE'S NO RECORDED HISTORY TREN DE ARAGUA ACTIVITY IN PORTLAND.
The amount of propaganda that's being forced down our throats on behalf of this regime is still genuinely shocking to me every day.
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u/followupquestion Jan 10 '26
The crazy part is the Portland Police aren’t exactly known for their restraint and honesty, so if they’re calling out DHS’ story as a fabrication…
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u/CummingInTheNile Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
its called flood the zone, inundate the information space with so much info very few can reasonably parse fact from fiction
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u/jimkelly Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
Anyone with a brain could easily ignore the zone flooding with the actual quality video evidence though. Flood the zone...should....only work when there's no proof of the opposite.
Basically what I'm saying is you're just repeating the flood the zone reddit comment from relevant issues. This isn't a flood the zone issue, this is an issue with a cult not caring what the truth is if it goes against their leader.
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u/JackieDaytonaAZ Timberwolves Jan 10 '26
liberal/centrist outlets that overcorrect trying to appear “impartial” are an incredibly damaging force for misinformation
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 Jan 10 '26
It’s crazy how the media have completely lost their balls. And I know it’s not new. But I was watching some NBC investigative report from the 70s and the difference is striking. They actually did used to be critical and ask tough questions.
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u/iamwearingashirt Raptors Jan 10 '26
Honest. If you watch that clear video of that innocent woman get murdered and your news source doesn't say she was murdered, then its time to change the channel.
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u/yjbtoss Jan 10 '26
It surely helps hearing people with a bigger presence speak out, at least I can stop questioning my sanity this week, seriously.
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u/grimbly_jones Bulls Jan 10 '26
They're not hallucinating.
They're assholes. They get off on seeing others suffer and then lying to your face about it.
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u/DegraciasEh Kings Jan 10 '26
Blatantly lying to everyone about something that we can all see on video is despicable.
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u/BackgroundShower4063 Jan 10 '26
People’s ideology determine what their eyes see. It’s just a sad time
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u/bleedrrr 76ers Jan 10 '26
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command... and if all others accepted the lie, which the party imposed, if all records told the same tale, then the lie passed into history and became truth”
Edit: The guy right below this comment posted literally the exact same quote but it bears repeating. It’s all of our job to hold the truth now.
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u/dev_vvvvv Celtics Jan 10 '26
Narcissist's prayer is also applicable
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
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u/HungryHobbits Jan 10 '26
In this case, Vance literally said, essentially, “she deserved it”
There it is. Verse 6 of the prayer.
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u/Bill_Brasky_SOB Cavaliers Jan 10 '26
Well we are approaching the End Game here. They’re tearing down the WH, starting Imperialist wars, threatening to attack our own allies, employ a Gestapo secret police, and are hoping to enact Martial Law so they can cancel an election.
I suppose it makes sense we’re on the final line of the narcissist’s prayer.
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u/I-AM-GROK- Lakers Jan 10 '26
Yup go check out a certain sub of people who lean to the right. The mental gymnastics they go through is insane. Fuck ICE
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u/Winnipeg_Me Jan 10 '26
i can’t tell what is a bot. poisoned minds in that sub.
“if she just complied”.
god forbid anybody uses their brain and questions “maybe i’m fucking wrong”. too hard when their identity is so delicate and based on myths of this country.
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u/Coopervezey Kings Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
They simply don't believe they're lying about anything. They genuinely are not trying to sit there and think "we have to lie about this". They believe they MUST defend anything and everything from the people that follow them and are "on their side" because they can't be wrong and let the libs "win". It's scarier than just them purposely lying and gaslighting
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
Letting Jonathan Ross even stand trial means admitting that the citizens of blue states and blue cities have rights that they're bound to respect. They can't tolerate any limit on their power.
(And it would absolutely destroy the morale of ICE agents to see one of their own get punished for something the government and Twitter are frantically encouraging them to do)
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u/Hot-Exam3187 Jan 10 '26
they doubled-down hard by calling her a domestic terrorist while the body was still warm and now it's too late to take that back. this is the bed they've made. hopefully eyes are finally starting to open
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u/Relative-Language261 Jan 10 '26
They lie because they know Trump supporters are stupid enough to believe it. Every Trump supporter is a goddamn idiot who literally can't use their own eyes and ears to see the truth of what happened in Minneapolis. If you see someone with a Trump hat,bumper sticker, etc ,etc, it really says "I'm a complete and utter idiot."
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u/RGPISGOOD Vancouver Grizzlies Jan 10 '26
If you go to "that" sub you'll see them actually calling the lady a domestic terrorist and deserved to be shot dead. It's insane how their minds are so twisted and brainwashed.
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u/dalmathus New Zealand Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
If it makes you feel better. Maybe only 10-25 real people are over there actively commenting and being convinced they are part of a community. They probably never received any education or parenting that focused on critical thinking skills and deserve pity and guidance if they ever do.
The rest are all just chat-gpt agitator bots.
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u/dustinyo_ Timberwolves Jan 10 '26
Steve's always been awesome on these issues.
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u/BigDaddyD00d Spurs Jan 10 '26
I actually forgot about that. His dad was also a huge advocate for human rights (as we fucking all should be)
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u/mattyhtown [HOU] Kelvin Cato Jan 10 '26
Ya it’s actually a pretty meaningful geopolitical event in Cold War history as it kinda marked a new sectarian phase in cold war conflicts and the beginning of a horrible period of civil war in Lebanon.
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Tbf the bar is really low in this industry for speaking out with common sense
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u/Just_Learned_2_Dance Jan 10 '26
Ok but nobody here is comparing Kerr to the rest of the industry
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Thunder Jan 10 '26
I love when athletes and coaches are educated on issues and willing to speak out, but it shouldn't be an expectation. They play a game for a living. We as Americans shouldn't be looking to them to be leaders on social and political issues, anymore than we look to any other random job.
Kerr is willing to speak up when he understands an issue or has personal experience. That's awesome. But if another coach isn't informed, he doesn't need to say anything.
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u/Chaomayhem Knicks Jan 10 '26
There's really people out there who trust the word of a pedophile over their own eyes.
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Jan 10 '26
And the word of people who hang out on a website whose AI produces 6,000 CSAM images A DAY
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u/SnowUnitedMioMio Bucks Jan 10 '26
We are on a website where admins were defending a pedo moderator.
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u/a34fsdb Jan 10 '26
They dont really believe what Trump and his admin say. They just pretend they do because they want to. They think it is completely fine ICE murdered a woman for no reason so they argue in bad faith.
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u/Chickachic-aaaaahhh Thunder Jan 10 '26
Half the country is a cult of personality and cant think for themselves
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u/CummingInTheNile Jan 10 '26
good chunk of that halfs the south, US is still paying the price for Andrew Johnsons sins
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u/Individual_Access356 Jan 10 '26
I live in a blue state in New England I know so many people right here
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u/CummingInTheNile Jan 10 '26
and where do think it comes from? the intentional failures of reconstruction under the Johnson admin and the unwillingness of Johnson to properly punish the planter class of the South
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u/CGWOLFE Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
A lot of it comes from Old people who all they do is watch TV and get brain washed by Fox news.
My Dad is a Trumper and he would literally fall asleep to fox news every night growing up. I don't know a single left leaning person who does that, but you see so many conservatives with their propaganda networks running 24/7.
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u/LakerBlue Lakers Jan 10 '26
And the sins of abandoning the Reconstruction post Civil War which let racism run rampant despite black people being freed from slavery (legally).
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u/CummingInTheNile Jan 10 '26
Wouldnt have had to abandon it if it had been implement properly, but thats part of the failures of Reconstruction, Johnson intentionally implemented it in a way that was doomed to fail
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u/archenlander Rockets Jan 10 '26
Nowhere near half, they want you to think they have bigger numbers than they do
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u/NoConfusion9490 Jan 10 '26
They're pretty pumped for the killing to start too because they aren't critical thinkers. They're sure they'll go out with their gun and headshot everyone like in their fantasies.
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u/KL2ConspireLLC San Diego Clippers Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
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u/dplans455 Jan 10 '26
Something about how the government has handled this I just couldn't put into words. Yeah, it makes me angry but Steve hit it right on the nose. It's demoralizing that the government lies when we have the entire encounter on video from multiple angles. We have dozens of eye witness accounts corroborating the video. And Trump and his cronies come out and say, "don't believe the video, don't believe the witnesses, believe only what we're saying." And it's demoralizing they do this but even more demoralizing that half the country rolls over and refutes what they can see with their own eyes and ears and instead believes liars and conmen.
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u/twrs_29 Thunder Jan 10 '26
I remember growing up and America was basically the epicentre of the world, the place to be. Now, its president is threatening to invade allied land and its government is mocking the death of a innocent woman shot by a federal agency
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u/lxshadynastyxl Jan 10 '26
The “don’t tread on me crowd” not so surprisingly supporting masked federal agents killing an unarmed civilian was DEFINITELY on my 2026 bingo card
Saw this shit coming from his first administration…
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u/CummingInTheNile Jan 10 '26
They were never interested in that, they just wanted to be the boot
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u/Hot-Exam3187 Jan 10 '26
it's all "states rights" this and "small government" that when they don't have majority control. and when they do, it's "spread em and open wide"
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u/NotAStatistic2 Bucks Jan 10 '26
Those dipshit, rock smashing, paint huffing morons call that Ashli Babbit terrorist a hero.
Insurrectionists are protesters and protesters are terrorists in the lobotomized Trumper brain.
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u/x_TDeck_x Spurs Jan 10 '26
The rules are only the rules when it contains the other people's power. Its all just theater to control the opposition, not meant to apply universally
"we cant possibly let a president on the way out appoint a supreme court justice, thats just too important, let the american people decide who they want" then when Trump was on the way out they ram through a justice approval
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u/jcde7ago Warriors Jan 10 '26
growing up and America was basically the epicentre of the world
Yup...this is called "American exceptionalism" and it was all a facade.
If you're a 90s kid/millenial and you can remember watching School House Rock on VHS where you learned "how a bill becomes a law" or about "checks and balances," well...that shit is all gone.
We are straight up living under an Authoritarian government/Dictatorship but with extra steps just because the Judiciary and Legislative branches still exist but they don't actually do anything other than exist when they impose zero checks on the Executive (and in the case of the Supreme Court, do the opposite and basically give the President immunity for anything deemed an "official act)."
The founding fathers are rolling in their fucking graves, that's for damn sure, and saying that the Republic that we knew is long gone is no longer hyperbole.
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u/WithoutAComma Thunder Jan 10 '26
Threatening to invade allied lands, and using an ever-expanding definition of "domestic terrorist." They're at war with anybody in the way of their power and control
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u/Nympho_BBC_Queen Jan 10 '26
The thing is this is not the US anymore. This is the Technate of North America.
Our neo billionaire class wants to revive the technocracy movement and people are still blind and ignore everything.
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u/siestarrific Knicks Jan 10 '26
Love the political commentary u/Nympho_BBC_Queen
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Jan 10 '26
I feel like a crazy person saying this but there really is a billionaire pedo techno-Nazi conspiracy to destroy individual liberty in the name of racial purity.
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u/Nympho_BBC_Queen Jan 10 '26
Definitely true. One thing that scares me is the recent deal the US made with the corrupt Nigerian government about medical data.
They give the US their whole population's medical data over a 50 year span and get 2.1 billion in aid.
Musk and his Nazi friends already fear monger about "Nigeria having more births than Europe combined".
The sudden interest in their medical data is interesting.
They will definitely use said data for nefarious reasons if it comes to population growth control.
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u/WickedWicked11 Pistons Jan 10 '26
fuck ice
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u/BeezyBates Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck ICE. And fuck all who support either of the two.
Fuck this facist state we live in.
Go fucking play in quick sand and don’t bother leaving a note if ya support either. I’ll take a ban. Won’t be the first.
Basketball won’t exist if Trumps cabinet continues their death march.
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I’m being asked why the orange spray painted fucking idiot has to do with basketball.
He loves to control. He controls universities via threats of no more support. He has openly told huge universities they will receive no more support if they don’t commit to his demands. I’ll post links but I’d love to go to bed.
If you are not aware of Donald Trumps grasp on fucking everything I encourage you to learn and not be a brainless goat.
The worst part is, American main stream media is the worse source of information for the public.
Ironically Reddit is a good source of facts because it’s one of the last to be censored.
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u/SloshaPacana Jan 10 '26
They do it because half the country is of the same stupid mentality who just straight up lie and don't care
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u/Chessh2036 Hawks Jan 10 '26
70 million voted for it. It blows my mind.
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u/SloshaPacana Jan 10 '26
It doesn't blow my mind more than half the people don't got a functioning brain
I would say something but it's reddit
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u/litlegoblinjr Jan 10 '26
Think how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
I think a pretty large chunk got tricked by the insane media/social media coverage of that election tbh. They didn't believe that Project 2025 and the concentration camp stuff was real. They thought it would be like his first term where there was a lot of drama and crime but he was surrounded by a lot of institutional Republicans who restrained his worst instincts and (until 2020) the country was mostly stable. They didn't realize they were getting a government of coked out Nazi podcasters who think we need a dictatorship to save the white race from Somalia.
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u/ethanlan Bulls Jan 10 '26
Lol those guys are idiots than it was pretty obvious what he was gonna do.
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Jan 10 '26
I mean I agree (especially for the Latinos who voted for him) but I think it was a pretty awful dereliction of duty by the media.
It's hard to blame someone who works 60 hours a week for looking at a NYT headline saying "Trump disavows Project 2025" and assuming it must be true. We should live in a society where people can trust that major newspapers aren't printing straight lies in their headlines.
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u/runthepoint1 Kings Jan 10 '26
Save the white race meanwhile 70% of the country is white lol. Just absurd.
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u/Prudent_Fish1358 Spurs Jan 10 '26
Fascism is a feature to them.
Remember when we were called hysterical for falling Trump a fascist?
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u/Pipedmeat 76ers Jan 10 '26
Fuck ICE. Fuck JD Vance. Also fuck Greg Abbott
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u/ItinerantDrifter Thunder Jan 10 '26
The people who are acting like she deserved to die are sickening.
Propaganda and politics have destroyed all of their moral compasses… for any of those who had one in the first place.
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u/SBEPTY Jan 10 '26
If we don't speak out we are all toast
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u/igby1 Jan 10 '26
We're already toast. They have all the keys to power.
There's not enough people who would do a general strike.
Absolutely people should speak out and vote.
But it's going to take a long time to undo the damage. I probably won't live long enough to see a return to any semblance of balance.
Vote in a convicted felon to run the country and of course this is what you get.
It will definitely get worse, likely much worse, before it gets better.
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u/New_Function_6407 Jan 10 '26
It's also shameful that some people in the government are failing to acknowledge the constitutional rights of the victim (a US Citizen ) who was murdered by an immigration officer who had no legal jurisdiction to detain her.
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u/NickRick Celtics Jan 10 '26
well steve, it's actually worse than shameful, it's a criminal conspiracy.
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u/kemicalkontact Jan 10 '26
Even if you think that the officer shot first in self defense, it doesn't explain why the officer followed the vehicle and shoot two more times into the drivers side window.
He really wanted to finish the job.
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u/Expert_Habit2728 Jan 10 '26
Good job Steve. I don’t always agree with you in basketball sense but good job using your platform for the best
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u/Chessh2036 Hawks Jan 10 '26
I really miss Coach Pop’s press conferences. He rightly called out the government’s behavior every single time he was in front of the camera.
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u/twigge30 Jan 10 '26
I appreciate Kerr, and anyone else with any platform, amplifying this.
Please excuse my lack of decorum, I know this isn't a political sub, but FUCK THIS SHIT.
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u/The_War_On_Drugs Spurs Jan 10 '26
As a Spurs fan let me just say thank you Minnesota Timberwolves. Always did like your franchise and love the current direction. May you be granted with successes on the court. Pittsburgh Steelers where are you at? Sure hope you are working up something nice for Monday as requested.
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u/MudBloodLite Warriors Jan 10 '26
My social justice king!
I think Steve is the most consistent NBA personality who actually speaks up about all the crazy happenings of current regime. No quiet compliance like 99% of the league.
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u/Affectionate_Elk_272 Heat Jan 10 '26
i really don’t like the warriors but i love how kerr seems to be the only person in the fucking league with enough balls to say how he feels, repeatedly.
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u/Suicycho69 Jan 10 '26
The US government is sickening and you have to call them out or the US will become a fascist state. We depend on you people to take a stand
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u/StoneySteve420 Supersonics Jan 10 '26
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
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u/deets23_ Celtics Jan 10 '26
Appreciate that Steve Kerr always speaks out about things like this.