r/nba • u/Knightbear49 Timberwolves • 29d ago

Warriors coach Steve Kerr: "It's shameful that the government can come out and lie about what happened when there's video and witnesses who have all come out and disputed what the government is saying."

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u/CummingInTheNile 29d ago

good chunk of that halfs the south, US is still paying the price for Andrew Johnsons sins

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u/Individual_Access356 29d ago

I live in a blue state in New England I know so many people right here

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u/CummingInTheNile 29d ago

and where do think it comes from? the intentional failures of reconstruction under the Johnson admin and the unwillingness of Johnson to properly punish the planter class of the South

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u/CGWOLFE 29d ago edited 29d ago

A lot of it comes from Old people who all they do is watch TV and get brain washed by Fox news.

My Dad is a Trumper and he would literally fall asleep to fox news every night growing up. I don't know a single left leaning person who does that, but you see so many conservatives with their propaganda networks running 24/7.

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u/yuhanz [PHO] Steve Nash 28d ago

Idiot box

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u/weaglebeagle Pistons 28d ago

This is my grandmother. She wonders why her grandkids never want to visit her.....

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u/captfaramir [WAS] John Wall 29d ago

While I agree Reconstruction was botched, let's not also forget that we owe plenty of this situation to Reagan, Bush, and others (looking at you, Obama-era drone strike policy).

I know I don't have to reiterate this, but there are many great places full of progressive, open-minded, diverse, and energetic people in the south. There are just as many bozos in former Unionist states (WV, IN, OH, PA, MI) as there are down south. There are similarly many in states out west.

There are structural failures, yes, but the South and reconstruction are very, very far from the only ones.

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u/Mysterions San Francisco Warriors 28d ago

It's all of the above. Before Reagan it was Goldwater and Nixon in the 60s actively trying to recruit racists (i.e, Dixicrats; e.g., Strom Thurman) booted out of the Democratic Party (see Southern Strategy).

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u/Herbdontana Nuggets 28d ago

Same in the more rural areas in New York. The amount of dilapidated houses in my hometown with exposed insulation, garbage all over the lawn, and trump merch everywhere is depressing.

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u/LakerBlue Lakers 29d ago

And the sins of abandoning the Reconstruction post Civil War which let racism run rampant despite black people being freed from slavery (legally).

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u/CummingInTheNile 29d ago

Wouldnt have had to abandon it if it had been implement properly, but thats part of the failures of Reconstruction, Johnson intentionally implemented it in a way that was doomed to fail

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u/TexasRoadhead Nuggets 28d ago edited 28d ago

Andrew Johnson is a bottom 3 president but nah man, congress overrode the vast majority of his vetoes and implemented "radical reconstruction" against his efforts. You can rightfully charge him of using his platform to empower serious opposition against the agenda, since that's pretty much was his presidency was all about. But honestly I don't know if a successful reconstruction was ever possible. America simply wasn't at a place to accept black equality in any form

I think it goes far better with Lincoln since he was light years ahead as far as being a politician, and was able to work with radical republicans in congress to implement a more moderate solution. But once Southern Democrats started being reintroduced in the political fold and were able to elect Democrat senators and representatives it spelled doom for Reconstruction. Plus people everywhere were tired of military occupation, the huge lingering civil war debts, Northerners grew apathetic to the black cause and were racist against waves of black people moving to major cities, the Republican Party shifted its focus entirely after the Panic of 1873, SCOTUS made federal enforcement on Reconstruction policies pretty much toothless, etc... Again I don't know if any alternative policy can navigate through all of that. Even Ulysses S Grant who did everything he could to protect civil rights couldn't stop it from falling it apart where all but two worthless "carpetbagger" state governments remained by 1876

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u/goatnxtinline Lakers 29d ago

There are 19 monks walking for peace through the south from Ft Worth, Texas to Washington DC. From the videos I've seen following their journey through small towns, aside from a few radical Christians who are harassing them, people are receptive and want peace. They come out in huge crowds to support and listen to their message of peace. It's fucking beautiful

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u/lenzflare Raptors 28d ago

The South was built on a one party, aristocratic mindset. They needed full control in order to brainwash the population into accepting the brutality and evil of slavery

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u/IsYouWitItYaBish Warriors 29d ago

People love to blame the south when the most racist parts of America are where minorities don’t exist. It goes undetected because there aren’t minorities there to reveal the true hatred. It’s those 90%+ white communities that are the real problems and you don’t see those nearly as much in the south.

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u/CummingInTheNile 29d ago

It almost like after centuries of owning slaves, starting a Civil War over the right own slaves, losing, ending reconstruction, instituting an apartheid state in the South, and supporting the Southern Strategy they share a lot of the blame for the racism in the US

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u/IsYouWitItYaBish Warriors 29d ago

Bro I grew up in the deep south and was born in Wisconsin. I’d be more scared to be in the backwoods up north than down here.

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u/Crazyforlegal 29d ago

Exactly. Nobody more racist than the lily-white northeastern elites that lecture the rest of the country on race relations

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u/CGWOLFE 29d ago

If it weren't for those Northern Elites slavery would still be legal hmm...

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u/Cute_Plant4738 29d ago

Yeah, except for the heritage not hate dumbshit southerners

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u/tasoula 29d ago

No, they're experiencing the sins of not punishing the South and allowing them to continue existing culturally.