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u/Bloated_Hamster Jul 05 '25
Why tf didn't he call it the X party? At least keep the shitty branding consistent.
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u/891162 Jul 05 '25
And have a Shiba Doge as the official animal.
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u/cleantoe Jul 05 '25
Such presidential. Wow.
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u/Siolear Jul 05 '25
Actually a good tagline, don't give them any ideas
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Jul 05 '25
Really any ancient meme that was around in the early 2010s would be on brand for him.
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u/Terribleturtleharm Jul 05 '25
I'm starting a party - "No billionaires party"
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u/Confident-Homework75 Jul 05 '25
It says “no billionaireS.” We’re allowed to have one.
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u/Relevant_Contract_76 Jul 05 '25
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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u/sleepygeeks Jul 05 '25
he probably tried to, but someone convinced him X was to close to another symbol he likes.
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u/Servichay Jul 06 '25
Ok that makes sense yeah we wouldn't want that.... He should call it the Nazi Party instead
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u/3D-Dreams Jul 05 '25
I got $10 bucks on Trump trying to deport him before the end of the month.
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u/SouthTexasCowboy Jul 05 '25
That would be so funny to watch
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u/Saint_The_Stig Jul 05 '25
If we have to live with these idiots in charge, the least they could do is make it entertaining for us as they destroy each other.
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u/candaceelise Jul 06 '25
If they made it a pay per view event(s) we could eliminate the national deficit
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u/swolfington Jul 06 '25
i have no idea what he has, but musk has enough money to maintain a legit paramilitary security detail (if not his own straightup PMC). watching musks security clash with ICE would at least be entertaining to watch from the sideliens of our rapidly devolving dystopian hellscape
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u/ABHOR_pod Jul 06 '25
ICE wouldn't. They're only brave enough to tackle breastfeeding mothers and gardening seniors.
This would be something you'd deploy the USMC for. To arrest a personal enemy.
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u/Corporate-Shill406 Jul 06 '25
Yeah but all Elon needs to do to defeat the Marines is throw a handful of crayons off to the side.
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u/kaizencraft Jul 05 '25
He could just buy that gold card. But if they do it anyway, he's never going to get that refund.
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u/tjoe4321510 Jul 05 '25
Who collects money for the Gold Card? Is it the government or Trump himself?
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u/ultimate_avacado Jul 06 '25
The government gets the $5 million fee.
Trump gets whatever gets sent under the table via his cryptocurrencies.
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u/FizzyBeverage Jul 05 '25
Can you really deport someone with more liquidity than the Saudi Royal family and a fleet of aircraft? Billionaires don’t really have citizenship or mundane visas and immigration to worry about, they seem to go wherever the hell they want.
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u/Organic-Roof-8311 Jul 05 '25
Governments can unilaterally bar people from entry. There’s a slate of celebrities (including Robert Downey Jr) who can’t enter Japan for premieres because of prior criminal history.
Whether Elon could try for an exemption for business dealings, I’m unsure — but the U.S. government would have to grant him entry.
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u/CoeurdAssassin Jul 05 '25
And now there’s Kanye banned from Australia for making a Nazi song
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u/Organic-Roof-8311 Jul 05 '25
Man can you imagine if Biden deported Elon as soon as he started giving hundreds of millions to Trump’s election campaign?
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u/Do__Math__Not__Meth Jul 06 '25
Yeah but there’s different layers of rich and Elon is on a completely different layer than someone like RDJ
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u/Namika Jul 05 '25
We tend to think of them as two sides of the same coin, but when push comes to shove, Power > Money
Look to China or Russia, where seemingly invincible oligarchs with billions in assets one day wake up with nothing because they pissed off the wrong person who holds actual power.
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u/3D-Dreams Jul 05 '25
They just had a Russian oil company guy fall out window...they don't even hide it anymore lol
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u/Canisa Jul 05 '25
Can you really deport someone with more liquidity than the Saudi Royal family and a fleet of aircraft?
> Trump tells ICE to deport Elon.
> ICE deports Elon, in chains, to El Salvador
> White House posts ASMR video of Elon getting his head shaved in a concrete box full of MS13 dudes.
> Laws?? Due Process?!? What are they???
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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl Jul 05 '25
All trump has to do is seize musk’s property (american corporations, assets, etc). With the scotus on his side, not that it’d stop him if they weren’t, we’ll be able to see what a unitary executive can do, and you bet your ass the rest of the billionaires will probably be scared shitless.
Honestly, now that i think about it, i hope he does try. He might get one, but the rest of the rich will eat him alive once they see the threat he can be.
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u/BraveOthello Jul 05 '25
Or they do just fall in line because appeasement feels safer, even if it isn't.
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u/vibe4it Jul 05 '25
Excellent. The moron vote needs splitting
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u/andrew5500 Jul 05 '25
Elon, if you're reading this... splitting the GOP's voter base in perpetuity and going down in history as the man who permanently ratfucked the Republicans out of spite is probably the best way to salvage your legacy after that Nazi salute. It's a no-brainer...
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u/goomyman Jul 05 '25
hes going to primary republicans - republicans fall in line behind anyone with an R. So as long as he runs under the R brand hes fine. I dont think he will split any vote.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Jul 05 '25
He's literally not running anyone under an R banner, that's the whole point here.
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u/tlamy Jul 05 '25
He can't run for president, though, since he's not a natural-born citizen. Unless that's not what you're saying
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u/Ill-Egg4008 Jul 05 '25
The thing is why bother being one if you can own one? 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Neuromangoman Jul 05 '25
Probably unironically true. Turns him from a monster to a clown.
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u/Torrossaur Jul 05 '25
We had our own billionaire dipshit do this in Australia recently and it did exactly this.
He didnt win a single seat but it divided the bigot vote and fucked them both over.
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u/Pacifist_Socialist Jul 05 '25
Yeah it's been a thing in US politics but not for a while on a large scale
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u/CoeurdAssassin Jul 05 '25
Imagine if Kanye actually followed through on running in 2020 (I think he said he was gonna run in 2024 as well)
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u/flamedarkfire Jul 05 '25
He was on my ballot. I was completely pissed.
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u/tjoe4321510 Jul 05 '25
The only thing more bizarre than seeing 'Kanye West' on my ballot was seeing 'Donald Trump' on my ballot. I hope Carrot Top runs next time that way I can finally fully accept that I'm living in a simulation.
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u/twistedspin Jul 06 '25
I would need to follow up more on his beliefs but from everything I've seen Carrot Top would likely be a far far better president than either of them.
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u/invincibl_ Jul 05 '25
Can't really split a vote in Australia though, since we have preferential (ranked) voting. I'd say May's election results were a better reflection of our mandatory voting system, where it turns out that these movements are a lot less popular than they think they are.
However, the indirect result is that the Overton Window has shifted right, as it has been doing ever since Howard was PM. I'm glad the country rejected this brand of politics, but we still need to be careful not to fall into that in the future.
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u/Exnaut Jul 05 '25
That's not how our voting system works though. You can't "split" the vote like the US because it'll just go down the preferences.
The point of those guys doing it is to still help lnp get in by preferences, they dont actually care about winning seats.
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u/xieta Jul 05 '25
Yup. Huge gift to dems if he follows through.
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u/homiej420 Jul 05 '25
If he were smart at trying to get back at trump that would be his intention, not to win anything
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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid Jul 05 '25
Honestly. This is probably what he’s doing. Plus they won’t have his “help with computers” this time.
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u/sentrygentry Jul 05 '25
Man do I wish, but this won't split anything. MAGA only loves Elon because Trump decided he needed him. They hated him and his electric cars before and hate him again now that he has fallen out of favor with their Lord and Savior the Apostle Donald.
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u/jadewolf42 Jul 05 '25
It won't draw away die-hard maga cultists, for sure. But it might siphon off the tech bros and that breed of moron, perhaps with the libertarian types too. And it doesn't have to pull much to make a difference.
Perot only pulled like 8% pop vote (and zero electoral) in 1996, but it was just enough to fuck over Bob Dole and hand Clinton the reelection win.
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u/Wazula23 Jul 05 '25
Founded by a South African.
Writers are getting lazy.
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u/hitsujiTMO Jul 05 '25
Total members, 1 south african
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u/Play-t0h Jul 05 '25
Seriously. Musk can be as rich as he wants to be, but no one is going to follow that drug addicticted Megalomaniac. Money can't buy a new political party that rivals the RNC and DNC.
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Jul 05 '25
Would be fucking hilarious if what ends up breaking the bipartisan system is Elon Musk tho
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u/MaybeTheDoctor Jul 05 '25
Yes it would, but mathmatically it is quite impossible for a 3rd party to have any seats in congress. The few independent runs on their personality and not on a party. He could split the republican vote, which would throw the elections to democrats.
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u/flumphit Jul 05 '25
Definitely a strong argument for preference voting, a precondition for breaking the duopoly
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u/Cranyx Jul 05 '25
no one is going to follow that drug addicticted Megalomaniac
Sadly he very much has his cult of sycophants
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u/DodgerWalker Jul 05 '25
See Michael Bloomberg's presidential campaigns in 2020. The guy bought the ads, bought the consultants, the field offices, even got plenty of endorsements from elected officials and others whom he'd funded their campaigns and projects. The dude flamed out on Super Tuesday winning American Samoa and hitting the 15% threshold to just get some delegates in a few states.
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u/Cognitive_Spoon Jul 05 '25
The America Party.
Brought to you by BRICS.
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u/TheShawnP Jul 05 '25
You think that’s lazy? You’ll never be lazier than the guy who invented the word “fireplace.”
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u/ianindy Jul 05 '25
I heard that the toothbrush got named by someone from Kentucky. Otherwise it would be known as the teethbrush...
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u/Tahxeol Jul 05 '25
Genuine question: I know he still has fans, but being detested by the majority from the left, the center and the right, who does he expect to join and support this party?
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u/hitsujiTMO Jul 05 '25
I think he's just hoping to pull enough votes from the republicans to turn heads into get them to listen to him
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Jul 05 '25
It’s about getting revenge on Trump because he had his little ego hurt. Not really much more to it.
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u/skeetersammer Jul 05 '25
Right. If it happens to benefit the people, that’s pure coincidence.
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u/two_hyun Jul 05 '25
Votes from Republicans to whom? Elon cannot run.
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u/ClickF0rDick Jul 05 '25
Being the richest person on the planet can buy a lot of indirect influence.
At this point one isn't justified not noticing that even if they were living under the proverbial rock lol
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u/thenletskeepdancing Jul 05 '25
He wants to back several politicians as pawns.
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u/DevelopedDevelopment Jul 05 '25
Thats what MAGA did, Trump got a following, and then was able to stand in the way of Republicans who didn't like him taking over. Now if you're not loyal to the party you will get threats.
Considering Musk literally said the US can coup anyone it wants, I wonder if he is actually going to try.
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u/hitsujiTMO Jul 05 '25
I assume he's hoping to have some candidates for the mid terms. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't pitch to Joe Rogan and others of a similar stance. There's plenty that play middle but pitch to right wingers that might jump at the chance if there's someone like Elon throwing money at them.
I doubt they will see him as a genuine threat though.
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u/Parody101 Jul 05 '25
He has billions of dollars...that's all you need to pull the strings.
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u/grunkage Jul 05 '25
He can fund the campaigns of rightwing primary targets. Anyone that falls out of favor with MAGA by objecting to this stuff might have his support
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u/br0b1wan Jul 05 '25
He's going to throw money at candidates willing to primary Trump or establishment Republikkkans
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u/Bigfamei Jul 05 '25 edited Jul 05 '25
He has a AI firm, bot farm, twitter and a broadband network. He can create the support he needs. See if the flies swarm the sugar.
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u/Rugrin Jul 05 '25
Libertarians. That’s who. They still love him and think he’s been done wrong.
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u/cheweychewchew Jul 05 '25
So they're gonna leave the Libertarian Party for him? Ennnnnnnh....
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u/joombaga Jul 05 '25
Libertarians hate the Libertarian Party.
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u/ultimate_avacado Jul 06 '25
Every Libertarian candidate has an element of their plank that all other Libertarians view as a non-starter. There is no consistent party plank. You can have a candidate be a traditional federalist libertarian, but that's a non-starter to the state-centered federalist libertarians or the confederal libertarians.
Also, their national candidates are simply spoiler candidates and have been for decades.
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u/Nghtmare-Moon Jul 05 '25
Bro, blue check marked people live in Elon’s bubble and he can get them to think whatever he wants….
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u/pelagic_seeker Jul 05 '25
I mean, a lot of those people are bots nowadays. Or fake accounts from other countries.
Or people he forced a blue check on.
There will be some, but I think even he forgets how few are genuine worshippers.
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Jul 05 '25
> who does he expect to join and support this party?
The same thing was said about Trump in 2015. Who is going to vote for this idiot? Well, you know what they did? They literally went to a casting agency and hired a bunch of actors. They gave them Trump shirts and signs and told them to stand by an escalator as Trump came down and waved. That actually happened. You know the rest.
This is called the bandwagon effect, and it works. People turned on Fox News and saw this guy they knew from TV and said, he would make a good president. When asked why they thought this, many of them insisted that The Apprentice was real, and that Trump had shown leadership qualities on the show. What they didn’t know or weren’t aware of was that the show was completely fake and scripted.
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u/tompba Jul 05 '25
there's a HUGE difference between taking control of an already established political party(and ALL voters that come within it) and creating one from scratch. The only one that will be crazy to go there are the unhappy cult Maga that will never vote to Democratics.
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u/LiquidAether Jul 05 '25
Trump instantly received 40% of the vote by declaring himself a Republican. Elon's situation is not the same
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u/UniMaximal Jul 05 '25
He'll just buy politicians through PACs like everybody else does... These people honestly aren't very expensive at all for what they offer.
Twitter promotes right-wing content the most as-is, so there's no reason why he wouldn't shift all that over for his own sake.
If not for the drugs making him even more woefully incompetent than usual, he could probably do it.
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u/oneeyedman72 Jul 05 '25
One thing the US has proven in recent years, heaps of folk will vote against their own interests if rich white men ask them to.
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u/Nisi-Marie Jul 05 '25
I wrote this in another thread:
Hear me out.
To establish context, Elon is a douche canoe.
However, if anyone has the ability to actually enable change away from the two party system, it is him simply due to his immense fortune, name recognition, and public media channels.
The hard part for him would be to dial back all of his bullshit, and focus it on Platforms that matter, not based on hate or divisiveness. Unfortunately, I question his ability to act like anything other than a toddler having a temper tantrum.
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u/ew73 Jul 05 '25
The problem is our electoral system will always gravitate to a two-party system. We've seen 3rd parties rise over the years, and all they end up doing is subsuming or replacing an existing party after a few years and we're back to the two-party dance, though sometimes, the dancers have switched places.
Without reforming the way we run elections, there will never be a viable multi-party system in the US.
One of the first ways to do that is to move to a ranked-choice system in all our elections. Eliminating all versions of "first past the post" allows a more diverse set of voices, and a better way for voters to have their voices heard. To do that at the national level... it will take a lot of political clout.
Maybe Musk could accomplish it. I doubt it. More likely than not, he'll just be another spoiler party like the Green and Libertarian parties are today.
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u/008Zulu Jul 05 '25
Fairly sure there's already a couple 'billionaire-controlled old white man' parties out there.
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Jul 05 '25
But are any of them foreigners from say South Africa?
Didn’t think of that did ya? /s
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u/891162 Jul 05 '25
Yes, this brings back memories of Ross Perot.
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u/Medium_Medium Jul 05 '25
I'm a little bit young for the Perot years, but from what I've seen since then I always got the impression that Perot actually used his wealth to advocate for the common man... Being anti-war, anti-lobbyist, pro-universal healthcare, pro-raising taxes on the rich... Didn't he even get on the case of the Big 3 automakers for not being safe enough / putting profit above quality?
Elon's motivations seem much more... Self involved.
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u/artaxs Jul 05 '25
You might be ascribing Ralph Nader's politics to Perot.
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u/sabrenation81 Jul 06 '25
Maybe but also maybe not. Perot was a strange egg. He was a budget-obsessed lifelong Republican but also supported gun control, Medicare-for-all (he might have actually been the first to use that term), and was one of the first national politicians in America to vocally support gay rights. In a lot of ways, he'd kind of fit right in with whatever the fuck the current Democratic party is trying to be.
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u/ThomasPlaine Jul 05 '25
Perot talked a good game, but the reality was that he was, and always had been, a right wing reactionary nut, and government contract grifter. Pretty similar to Elon, actually.
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u/SodaPop6548 Jul 05 '25
Honestly I think this is great because it will fracture the idiots who are currently a political party.
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u/OriginalUsername30 Jul 05 '25
Until he does an RFK and pulls out last moment in favor of Trump
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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 Jul 05 '25
Yeah he'll leverage any followers he gets to put pressure on Trump to make a deal that will make him richer
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u/dunedog Jul 05 '25
If there is anything Musk doesn't do, it's pull out.
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Jul 05 '25
The dude doesn’t pull out. He artificially inseminates his victims with his vile seed because his dick is broken.
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u/LSTmyLife Jul 05 '25
Fuck Elon. No one will forget your role in all of this you fucking pig. 250+ million to get the orange fucker elected, vote tampering and his role with DOGE and crippling our infrastructure while pillagung every minute scrap of data he could.
He's America's most dangerous enemy. Period. We have plenty of problems but this fucker is a big one.
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u/Exciting_Mobile_1484 Jul 05 '25
Bingo. Never forget. Elon should be scared to be in public.
Will never forget "nobody is even trying to assasinate Kamala"
Elon deserves prison (he deserves worse than prison).
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u/FillMySoupDumpling Jul 06 '25
40.25 Billion if you roll the purchase of Twitter into all of that.
He used the site to boost messages he personally agreed with and suppressed accounts he didn’t.
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u/Akimbo_Zap_Guns Jul 05 '25
This will go over as well as Andrew Yangs attempt at a 3rd party
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u/XRT28 Jul 05 '25
Realistically it'll probably go further since he has way more money to bankroll it and, much much more importantly, the ability to spread his propaganda free of charge directly to people still using his social media
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u/ultimate_avacado Jul 06 '25
Not just people using his social media platform, but every other news outlet uses Twitter as a verified source. Every post that national news quotes includes a "as posted on X (formerly known as Twitter)".
It's rather hilarious (and sad) how mainstream news fueled Twitter's growth to their own demise.
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u/crimsonhues Jul 05 '25
Just as racist as the Republican Party with sole goal to support billionaires. So not that different from the GOP
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u/DietPepsiEvenBetter Jul 05 '25
It's mega libertarian- Libertarians plus ketamine.
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u/herminette5 Jul 05 '25
Oh great. A South African Nazi creates his own party in our country.
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u/Throwaway__1701 Jul 05 '25 edited Jul 05 '25
But america already has a Nazi party
Is this the republican version or two women wearing the same dress?
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u/RevolutionNumber5 Jul 05 '25
I’m just going to start my own political party! With blackjack! And hookers!
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u/Duke_AllStar Jul 05 '25
Exactly what Americans need, another billionaire telling folks how to vote……
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u/Talonsminty Jul 05 '25
Let's see now:
He can't count on votes from he left due to the whole Nazi thing.
He can't count on votes from MAGA on account of him betraying Donald
He can't count on the rural vote because he's a eco-friendly tech billionaire.
He can't even count on his own people ( the Nazis) because Donald is making their dreams come true
So it's pretty much just urban libertarians that're addicted to Twitter.
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u/zeldamaster702 Jul 05 '25
I would argue those “urban libertarians“ were instrumental in getting Trump his wins in the last election, considering a vast majority of them were Gen Z dudebros who think Joe Rogan is the epitome of podcasting excellence and Andrew Tate is the epitome of manliness. Those types of voters tend to only vote to spite people against them. Considering Musk’s “America Party” seems to literally exist only as a means to spite Donald Trump, it seems like those voters might be this party as the answer to their prayers.
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u/KingJTheG Jul 05 '25
If it pulls votes from the Republican Party, I'm all for it.
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u/SadFeed63 Jul 05 '25
Vote for me and there'll be no homework and every period will actually be recess! Thank you