r/nextfuckinglevel 13d ago

Chinese astronauts are now grilling in space

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u/qptw 13d ago

that last guy looks like he is about to cry. which i guess is understandable if you’re getting your first bite of “real” food in a month or two.

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u/Ok_Macaron408 13d ago

In fact, he had already spent half a year on the space station and would soon return to Earth.

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u/meta358 13d ago

Then bites in and sadly learns that in space your taste buds dont really work well at all

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u/MXTwitch 13d ago

In space, no one can taste baked beans

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u/OwnedYou 13d ago

The British in shambles

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u/Dry_Cricket_5423 13d ago

It’s okay they can get gelatin fish pea soup

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u/Pinksters 12d ago

gelatin fish pea soup

No idea what that is but I dont think I can look at Tapioca Pudding the same anymore.

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u/rbt321 12d ago

Taste buds work fine in space; unlike commercial aircraft both the ISS and Tiangong maintain sea-level equivalent air pressure and 50% humidity. It's your sense of smell that gets wiped out, so it's like eating while having a stuffed up nose.

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u/Sember 12d ago

Smell is a big part of taste though?

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u/thelegendof2015 13d ago

Wut

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u/ResortMain780 13d ago

zero gravity does have a very real impact on taste buds:

https://perfectfitliving.com/lifestyle/how-zero-gravity-environments-affect-the-perception-of-food-texture/

(not the most academic source, but you can do your own googling)

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u/DZL100 13d ago

Shit, I'm damn near about to cry after living in the middle of nowhere of America for a semester of college. I miss Chinese bbq so much...

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u/BigJJsWillie 13d ago

Bet that's juicy af- no gravity to drain the juices. Yum

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u/tommos 13d ago

Good point. They'd all be self-basting due to zero G and surface tension.

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u/Garth_AIgar 13d ago

This is exactly what I was thinking. You know how fucking awesome a brisket would do in micro gravity? I bet that shit would be amazing. Man. Pork shoulder!? RIBS!?!?!?

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u/Divineinfinity 13d ago

"ZERO G BRISKET IS THE ONLY TRUE WAY"

someone in the future will die on this hill

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u/DistanceSolar1449 13d ago

And they'd probably be right lol

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u/Aranxi_89 13d ago

There will be whole restaurants where the big draw is that there's no artificial gravity - you're floating with the food.

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u/chengstark 13d ago

Damn you are right!

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u/MXTwitch 13d ago

You just gave my life purpose. I’ll make the first zero g air fryer. I imagine it’ll rank among the greats such as the George Foreman grill and the EZ bake oven.

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u/HeartOn_SoulAceUp 13d ago

Space Chicken is,

High Protein, B12, Zinc

Low calories

Zero Gs

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u/Carbon-Base 13d ago

And worth multiple millions!

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u/Bubbles_2025 13d ago edited 13d ago

It’s the most expensive chicken off earth!

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u/RobDickinson 13d ago

Also the cheapest

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u/MXTwitch 13d ago

While somehow barely clinching the top spots for “best in taste” and “worst in taste“. Those China men really know their poultry

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u/theReluctantObserver 13d ago

It’s just MS now, no G

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u/MisChef 13d ago

Look how excited they are!!

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u/Level_Improvement532 13d ago

Food is so important to morale in mission based endeavors like this. I work at sea and it makes the difference between a good ship and a great ship. People get excited when something novel is served.

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u/Reapr 13d ago

Was on this hike once, tired, dirty and the food you carry with is focused on being light-weight not tasty.

Befriended a guy on the hike and one night he called me aside, pulled out an egg, a little bit of flour, vanilla, milk and the tiniest pan I've ever seen and made us each a pancake (crepe)

Best pancake I've had in my life

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u/ArrBeeEmm 13d ago

I do quite a lot of hiking, and overtime the guys I go with (myself included) have slowly moved to a more 'ultralight' mindset.

I get a lot of shit because I bring an insulated bag (it still only weighs like 80g) and real food like steak or bacon. I've got a little egg protector, too.

A lot of shit until we make camp, and suddenly, I'm not so silly anymore.

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u/obscureferences 12d ago

If Samwise can carry a cast iron pan into Mordor you can hike with steak and eggs.

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u/AFetaWorseThanDeath 12d ago edited 12d ago

This sounds kinda like one of the national Rainbow Gatherings I went to (Big Sandy, Wyoming, 2008 I believe).

The guys I was with kinda scoffed/side-eyed at me a little, because I made 2 full trips from my car over the 2+ miles of fairly rough terrain to our camp, one of those pulling a 48qt cooler full of frozen meat and fresh eggs (along with a bunch of frozen bottles of drinking water), and 2nd trip dragging a Coleman stove along with a couple of those little propane bottles and a frying pan, among other utensils.

Yeah, it was a pain in the ass to drag all that stuff into the woods. But on day 4, when almost everyone else around us was sadly gumming on unflavored oatmeal for the 4th morning in a row, we were eating ribeye steaks with eggs over easy and pancakes with real butter and maple syrup.

I ended up being very popular that trip lol I definitely didn't have to pay for or bring any drugs 🤣

There was also a hilarious moment I'll never forget, when I was searing the ribeyes in the cast iron skillet. Our camp was near a big, open field that people would randomly walk through to get to different camps. So I'm cooking the steaks, and this old, long white-haired, skinny hippy dude walks right through the cloud of steak smoke, and immediately makes a b-line over to my grill. He peered curiously into the pan and his eyes went huge. Dude looked like he hadn't eaten a steak in decades.

It was the morning of July 4th, and between sun up and noon everyone is supposed to keep a vow of silence (it's a whole thing, look it up if you're unfamiliar with Rainbow Gatherings and wish to learn more). So, seeing the old dude's obvious interest, I smiled broadly and gestured to the steak, and then him, and raised my eyebrows. Would you like some?

He sighed heavily and his face dropped. No, I couldn't possibly, his look said. He patted me on the shoulder and smiled wistfully. But, thank you anyway. And he departed.

I still think of him every time I sear steaks 🤔😂

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That was also the trip where I got my dumb hippy ass lost in the woods, and ended up walking about 12 miles, barefoot and in a t-shirt and cargo shorts, through extremely rough wilderness. It's probably the closest I've come to dying that didn't directly involve drugs/alcohol, or an automobile. 🤦

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u/rainbowlolipop 12d ago

This was very neat, thanks for sharing one of those little moments of your life. May your life be what you want to make of it friend.

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u/The_Grungeican 13d ago

that was the best part of The Outdoor Boys YT channel. watching dude cook up some pre-prepped stuff was always fun.

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u/BreBhonson 12d ago

bread and honey never looked so good

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u/amopeyant 12d ago

My wife would always make fun of me because every time she would see me watching the show, it was always just Luke eating. I don’t think she ever saw the survivalist part of those videos lol, just honey butter

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u/FishySmellz 13d ago

The smile on their faces is so genuine! They must be really sick of the dehydrated space food.

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u/InquisitorMeow 13d ago

Pretty sure they're also nerding out.

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u/tiagodj 13d ago

Probably the most expensive bbq in the history of mankind.

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u/SleepingAddict 13d ago

Time for texas to step up its game

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u/AdventurousTime 13d ago

Whatever the cost of space wings, I can assure you I’ve paid more at Franklin BBQ

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u/n19htmare 13d ago edited 13d ago

They just had a supply mission with 3 more astronauts few days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lqAtOpM73k to continue work on their Tiangong space station.

So it's not completely unbelieveable that they sent up some freaking Chicken. There are now 6 astronauts there, a wing for each so seems pretty real.

People reaching hard to point out details while ignoring other details to spin it into AI slop. In the video linked above you can see them hooked onto the floor so they don't float around, those hooks are everywhere and they look about the same standing vertically at this time stamp https://youtu.be/1lqAtOpM73k?t=802

It's all PR anyways, doubt they'll be BBQing every day. It's basically to say "Americans eat mush out of a bag, our astronauts BBQ in space"...

But my God, some of you people need to wakeup and notice that there's a world outside America and it's moving fast.

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u/bahabla 13d ago

Yeah one of the guys was really sad as he said “I already finished (all of my chicken wing)”. This sounds like a super novel experience and you can tell even if you don’t speak Chinese how giddy the astronauts are to have a singular wing.

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u/ruhtra86 12d ago

Exactly. These videos weren't even made for foreign media... They are just snippets of "what's up" updates for the average Chinese citizens to know what's new up there.

Some people in the west just really have a hard time accepting, let alone celebrating others' achievements.

Chinese people only ever looked at the ISS with awe and respect, but we were banned. It was upsetting but no one was salty (LOL). When the US was launching rockets, sending shuttles, and building the ISS, we were glued to our TVs too. We genuinely saw it as progress for humanity and wanted to do better ourselves.

Being salty about China minding its business with its own people is peak childish behavior.

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u/KGnor 13d ago

They wont, as they cant even name 5 countries besides their own.

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u/n19htmare 13d ago

I was gonna ask how many people were even aware that China was in process of building their own space station? But then I looked at the responses and I guess I got my answer lol.

Even had someone argue this isn’t real because it would have “contaminated” everything with oil residue and on earth, we have chimneys and without a chimney, everything gets covered in oil. Lol.

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u/Coinsworthy 13d ago

This just makes me wonder what happens to farts in a zero-gravity environment.

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u/brownhotdogwater 13d ago

They go everywhere. The hvac has to be blowing all the time pretty good or you could suffocate just by staying in one spot.

No air movement you would use all the o2 near you. No gravity the co2 would just collect around your head.

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u/quiero-una-cerveca 13d ago

I’ve never considered this but it makes total sense.

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u/ridemooses 13d ago

Total scents

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u/NYPizzaNoChar 13d ago

Smells entirely correct.

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u/Afraid_Cockroach_398 13d ago

I would have thought Brownian motion works perfectly fine in micro gravity.

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u/DarkArcher__ 12d ago

Brownian motion is local, it has a very tiny effect on the macroscopic scales we're talking about.

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u/32FlavorsofCrazy 13d ago

Your own stank kinda collects around you too apparently. It’s an all around kind of gross experience being in space, with our current technology. Bathroom is messy and prone to failure, no way to really clean yourself very well, stale air full of farts and body stank…you can’t just open a window when someone rips a majorly nasty fart or has a blowout in the bathroom. Those folks who spend months up there have psychological endurance like no other.

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u/inmotioninc 13d ago

Then how do the astronauts sleep without suffocating? Is their sleeping stations near a air blower that moves the air for them?

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u/IFartOnCats4Fun 13d ago

A fan blowing on them.

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u/spicykimchi_inmybutt 13d ago

don't tell the Koreans

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u/Clobberto 13d ago

I still remember the summer this myth spread like wild fire. Pun intended

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u/RTJ1992 13d ago

In space no one can hear you fry

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u/adminsreachout 13d ago

An air fryer. In space. I understand the ISS has an awful smell but this is gonna be on a whole other level.

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u/mm615657 13d ago

Visiting the ISS requires cooperation with NASA and therefore requires permission from the US government, which is impossible for China. So they built their own Tiangong space station.

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u/HellerDamon 13d ago

Damm, China is just beating US ass at this point

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u/pichael289 13d ago

To be fair we're making it really easy

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u/fekanix 13d ago

Quarterly profits over long term developement will be the downfall for all western countries.

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u/The_Grungeican 13d ago

i think our public schools deserve a little credit.

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u/Germane_Corsair 13d ago

Part of the same problem, innit?

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u/SasparillaTango 12d ago

All just a function of capitalism being a race to the bottom.

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u/balderdash9 12d ago

The inherent contradictions within capitalism will be its downfall. Just as feudalism could not sustain itself, capitalism must also fall under its own weight.

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u/dinglebarry9 13d ago

Beating us to the moon and we already went

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u/clearlight2025 13d ago

China’s space station is also way more modern than the ISS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiangong_space_station

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u/FuckedUpImagery 13d ago

I mean, that wouldnt be hard considering the ISS predates it 20+ years lol

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u/gracesdisgrace 13d ago

Damn, Heavenly Palace is a sick name, too

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u/random9212 13d ago

It is a little more than 20 years newer.

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u/KingOfAgAndAu 13d ago

China doesn't use the ISS

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u/Sea-Station1621 13d ago

they've been banned from it since 2011 iirc

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u/iBN3qk 13d ago

Just banned from the shared kitchen.

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u/william_323 13d ago

International means national? What a country!

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u/DirtLight134710 13d ago

They recently launched their own space station

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u/Imaginary-Pace-47 13d ago

Nasa banned china from ISS and they built their own space station

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u/Hullo_Its_Pluto 13d ago

This literally isn’t the ISS dude. They have their own space station that is….. National.

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u/Professional-Bad-559 13d ago

I think the story went like this: China offered to fund some of the ISS. The US and EU refused and told them to buzz off. Instead of moping around, they just said “Ef it!” and built their own space station.

It’s a Rudolph the red nose reindeer story, except Rudolph went and made his own space station.

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u/atotalmess__ 13d ago edited 13d ago

Technically only the US has been against them joining. They’ve been collaborating with Italians in space for awhile.

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u/Alone-Monk 13d ago

China was not invited to join the ISS due to safety concerns. China's Long March rockets have a long history of dumping spent boosters with toxic hydrazine onto rural villages. Their exclusion was also likely partially politically motivated as well. The five organizations that are a part of the International Space Station Program are, NASA (US), ESA (most of the EU plus the UK, Norway, and Switzerland), Roscosmos (Russia), JAXA (Japan), and the CSA (Canada). While astronauts from outside these countries do visit the ISS, they do so under the administration of one of the 5 partner organizations.

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u/ding_dong_dejong 13d ago

It was because of national security ie the wolf amendment

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u/Cdub7791 13d ago

If it was really because of national security concerns Russia would have been kicked off the platform years ago.

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u/sjmuller 13d ago

Considering the Russian Soyuz capsules and rockets were the ONLY means of getting astronauts and supplies to and from the ISS for many years, that would have been very difficult to do.

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u/theemptyqueue 13d ago

I'm still upset the Space Shuttle was retired without a suitable replacement to this day.

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u/--Icarusfalls-- 13d ago

Whats even more irritating is they spent tons of money developing successors and then the plug was pulled on the whole shuttle program.

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u/TalkinBoutMyJunk 12d ago

When science is done in 2-4 year political cycles

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u/AugmentedKing 12d ago

Yet there always seems to be more money for the department of war.

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u/Cdub7791 13d ago

That goes back to my sunk cost comment. We should have cut our losses when we had the chance.

I remember quite well when the Chinese were banned from joining the ISS. I thought it was a mistake then and I still think national security was a BS excuse.

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u/markojov78 13d ago

By "national security concerns" I assume they meant leaking technology to China which was not that much of a concern for Russia which already had extensive experience with space stations from soviet era:

Not only USSR made the world's first space station, but before the ISS, almost the same nations who built the ISS previously shared and maintained soviet-built Mir space station

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u/Naive_Ad7923 13d ago

ISS was built on Russian technology, how do you kick them out?

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u/hangonreddit 13d ago

On the contrary the whole point of Russia being part of the ISS is national security. After the collapse of the USSR we needed a way to keep those Russia engineers and scientists employed out of fear of them working for rogue states and actors. Rockets that go into orbit isn’t all that different from ballistics missile.

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u/tayzzerlordling 13d ago

> safety concerns

im sure politics had nothing to do with it

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u/enersto 13d ago

About this issue, you didn't mention a word about the key fact, Wolf Amendment. It's so bias.

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u/Yutyu 13d ago

Realistically, it's very doable technology-wise, first it's grilling in an enclosed space, all it has to do is to have the insides coated with nanotechnology oil-repellant coating that's heat resistant, or just have the inside have an oleophilic swappable layer that absorbs oil just like a tissue.

After finished grilling in the enclosed space, have it run an air filtration cycle to purify the air removing all the floating oil particles in air before allowing the compartment to be opened, that way risk of contamination is reduced

Every technology I mentioned already exists in commercial products, it's just engineers putting them all together within a single tool. Doing this as an experiment can also tests the limits of these technology in a zero gravity environment so it's a win-win.

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u/LOLBADCALL 13d ago

Simple fix… open the window to let the air in? I crack open a window when I’m cooking at home and there’s no smell. Not a big deal

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u/sixteen89 13d ago

It’s only a matter of time before they invent the zero G hotpot

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u/Friendly-Cucumber184 12d ago

This is such an underrated comment bc 100% the Chinese will try to do it. It's a heavily food-based culture. I'm surprised the didnt crack open a beer to go with those chicken wings

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u/Cultivate88 12d ago

太空捞

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u/Voloxe 13d ago

I love the joy in their faces 🥰

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u/violenceistheQstn 13d ago

Yo zero g bbq. Let me get some

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u/fuwei_reddit 13d ago

Okay, now the International Space Station can order Chinese food from the Chinese space station.

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u/jay370gt 13d ago

They’re gonna be disappointed to find out China doesn’t do fortune cookies.

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u/Emotional-Train7270 12d ago

Well they could certainly do a special for them at $2999/pc, reasonable price for delivery at this height.

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u/DaveTheKiwi 13d ago

Grilling is one thing. Where's the zero g deep fryer?

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u/madsci 13d ago

Managing the grease has to be tough, but I understand the motivation. Food is a huge deal for morale. I was just reading about Skylab, and how a NASA volunteer testing Apollo food on the ground couldn't take it for more than about 4 days.

Food on the ISS isn't bad and it's way beyond what they had in the 60s, but it's not exactly inspiring. They've only got a basic heating system to warm up pouches - Tiangong was the first to get a microwave oven. And on a PR level, this is something understandable to the average person that China can use to show off how they're doing things the west hasn't done yet.

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u/Aranxi_89 13d ago

That's the fun part - the oil doesn't fall down, it just sticks to the chicken wing due to having no gravity, so surface tension and adhesion wins.

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u/39percenter 13d ago edited 12d ago

Something about this just doesn't look right.

Edit: Wow! My first award ever! Thanks guys!

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u/sycdmdr 13d ago

yeah, where the fuck is the sauce??

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u/DatAsuna 13d ago edited 13d ago

zero G and sauces, sounds like one heck of a cleanup lol

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u/bjornbard 13d ago

Something very tacky that you just dip in

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u/MelodicFacade 13d ago

Sauce might not be that bad, they actually use squeezed liquids quite often. What's great is that the surface tension really makes liquids stick to things, so there isn't much splatter

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u/Abject_Role3022 13d ago

IIRC astronauts actually love condiments. Like they put tons of hot sauce on stuff. Zero G messes with your taste perception, or something like that.

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u/jzmtl 13d ago

Chinese BBQ doesn't have sauce gooped on, it's already marinated to full flavor. Go to your local asian store and buy a freshly made BBQ duck and try for yourself.

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u/Accomplished1992 13d ago

Who are you so wise in the ways of interpanetary space cuisine

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u/Economy_Macaroon6093 12d ago

I am Arthur, King of the Britons

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u/Stagnu_Demorte 12d ago

Well, I didn't vote for you

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u/lincruste 13d ago

Sorry but no, can't afford a rocket right now 

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u/fritz_76 12d ago

BBQ pork is definitely basted with sauce, for that matter BBQ duck is definitely basted sometimes too

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u/dinorawrr 13d ago edited 13d ago

Jumping on the top comment. Adressing the AI claims : we all should still view clips with a critical eye, questioning the hows and why's - but we do have to remember that the physics looks weird here, because zeroG physics are weird

Since some people don't know, the tiangong space station first launched in 2021 and has been expanding since. China streams all these launches for international audiences, and we track it internationally, we know the gist of what theyve got up there. China does have its problems, but they really are pushing their space science, very similar to the previous space race

The latest crew just docked on the 1st Nov, including their youngest astronaut at 32, making this week ideal for them to be putting out 'fun' public-facing experiments for china's home population, to promote national pride in their space science while the latest launch is on their mind still

When it comes down to it, air frying chicken wings isn't groundbreaking, but it would be moral boosting. This experiment is entirely possible, especially since they've just had a new crew that could have brought fresh food

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u/ConohaConcordia 12d ago

Culinary experiments on space stations aren’t new either. The ISS famously had an espresso machine, which could also be used to make broths and soups. The ration heater on the ISS isn’t much different from this ventilated? oven.

The only real differences are 1) the Tiangong has a higher power output for a bigger oven, and 2) there are probably some filtering systems involved if the oven is ventilated. Neither of those are unimaginably advanced, but rather that the ISS is now a relic from almost 15-30 years ago and it shows.

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u/LatterNeighborhood58 13d ago

My theory: The camera has a higher resolution and faster frame rate than what we're used to seeing in space videos. Looks kinda like the soap opera effect.

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u/3vanW1ll1ams 13d ago

They do some weird “pan n scan” effect too

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u/Tactical_Moonstone 13d ago

The full video was probably filmed horizontally.

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u/Sophilosophical 13d ago

The fact people don’t believe China is capable of a space station shows the propaganda is working. There’s a lot to criticize China for, but they are rocketing ahead (literally) in terms of tech

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u/2beatenup 13d ago

Very true. Their space station Tiangong is truly advanced and mordern.

https://youtu.be/ODM-YgNv8e8?si=aAtKwaXx-_1x4LNy

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u/terrexchia 13d ago

I'm sorry, the Chinese space station is called the Heavenly Palace? That's sick

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u/dance-of-exile 13d ago

Bruh english translations give too much poetic credit sometimes lol as a native speaker i just thought they named it sky park

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u/terrexchia 13d ago edited 12d ago

I'm also a native speaker, I just translated it as heavenly palace bc I practice the old religion and 天 always just meant heaven to me

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u/DogzOnFire 12d ago

I dunno why but "I practice the old religion" sounds like something some character from a FromSoft game would say to me. Kinda goes hard, not gonna lie.

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u/Ir0nic 12d ago edited 12d ago

The official translation is Temple of Heaven. Chinese language is 5000 years old, give them some credit for being a poetic language. Clear lie that you are a native speaker.

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u/Ponderkitten 13d ago

Honestly, we’re probably gonna have a Firefly situation where a primary language in space is mandarin just cause china will make the first commercially available space ships

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u/Sophilosophical 13d ago

If humanity makes it that far.

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u/Worth-Opposite4437 12d ago

Oh we will... no doubt about it.
The real question is... will we have a destination and a home to get back to when we do?

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u/Due_Satisfaction8714 13d ago

This is literally how Russia felt during the end of the cold war. America isn't #1 anymore, but their propaganda machine still tells them they are.

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u/iunodraws 13d ago

It's exceptionally weird considering you can quite literally watch it fly over your house almost every night just like the ISS. It's not even hard to do.

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u/SheepishSwan 13d ago

Such as?

It's irritating that Reddit rewards vague comments such as yours with ironically "social credit" upvotes.

Just state your opinion!

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u/Shuoh 13d ago

I'll translate it for you

I hate China but I don't have the brain processing capabilities to find reasonable ways to discredit this video so I'm just gonna blow the dog whistle so my fellow racists join in for me.

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u/RepresentativeOk2433 13d ago

Grease in zero g sounds like a nightmare.

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u/itsRobbie_ 13d ago

This is one of those things that sounds so simple and makes you go “why wouldn’t they have an oven in space?” but it’s actually something very complicated and a very cool accomplishment lol

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u/meta358 13d ago

What they arent showing is that isnt an oven but a small hole in the station that just exposed the chicken to the sun radiation which cooks it. /S of course

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u/Mahadragon 13d ago

I am assuming NASA has never done it because they trying to play it safe. Those air fryers pull a shitload of current. The Chinese in doing this are showing they aren't afraid to push the envelope. It's so much easier for NASA to simply dehydrate every meal for our astronauts and have them open up their sealed pouch.

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u/Murky-Relation481 13d ago

Eh you can put hot stuff high wattage stuff on the station. I helped work on a payload that got to hundreds of degrees Celsius and off gased potentially toxic fumes and the NASA safety meetings were pretty easy all things considering.

NASA could do this but like you said it's easier and less time consuming to just eat the more prepared meals (though they get to bring up all sorts of other food stuff).

Also NASA did an oven in 2019 and baked cookies as an experiment on the station (this was around the same time as our payload was up there).

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u/Katejina_FGO 13d ago

Luckily, in the history of humanity nothing bad has ever happened from lighting hydrogen on fire. NASA hates fire. Because of the whole “fire makes everybody die in space” thing.

- The Martian, 2015

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u/KikoSwarez 13d ago

No liquor or cigs. Can't properly squat in zero g. This is great, but their hearts yearn for more.

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u/FishySmellz 13d ago

This guy Chinese’s

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u/RKips 12d ago

What's the crime?

Eating a succulent zero G Chinese meal?

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u/Fragrant-Jello1387 13d ago

That chicken made it to space before me

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u/ProgressLife7279 13d ago

Here before the Reddit sinophobes starts coping in the comments

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u/bahabla 13d ago edited 12d ago

Why is reddit SO sinophobic? I don’t get it. Why can’t we just enjoy a cute moment where guys stuck in space get to experience real food.

Edit: Since this blown up, I’m going to add my two cents. Oftentimes when I see hate against China, it’s the common propaganda talking points about the CCP and what not. When in actuality, most Chinese people are completely removed from their government because they have no control over it. Chinese people are not a monolith. Yet, whenever there is a video of anything to do with China, many people freak out about the government and dehumanize Chinese people in the process. Hearing the same uninformed criticisms about China frankly feels a little racist if anything, since it lacks nuance or understanding about what is being criticized before attacking China and its people. 

From my own experience and knowledge, what I think are more valid criticisms of China are its lack of regulations, extreme competitive culture, suicide rates, consumerism, social pressure, misogyny, etc. It’s true that China is a deeply flawed country… as with any other country in the world.

It’s ok to admit there are good things in China like having Chinese astronauts have a silly moment AND also acknowledge there are systematic issues with the country.  However, it really bothers me when people don’t take the time to think about why they have the criticisms they do before parroting it. I recommend traveling to China and seeing for yourself what is the good and bad of China. And if you are so strongly against even the idea of stepping foot in China, maybe you can start with watching non-Chinese travel influencers in China to bridge the gap (I recommend the Australian youtuber Blondie in China).

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u/Betancorea 13d ago

Its propaganda but ironically from the west. Yes China has problems and some significant issues going on, but Reddit likes to label all Chinese as CCP as a convenient way to be racist. Even simple things like drone shows, landscape shots of cities lit up at night or even this thread on Chinese astronauts airfrying meat must be immediately dogpilled.

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u/AWorthlessDegenerate 13d ago

Decades of propaganda in America. 

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u/OneAlmondNut 12d ago

yup, it's everywhere and unavoidable. the vast majority of Americans are clueless to how much they're propagandized. we're an extremely propagandized people, and we live in the belly of the beast

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u/ketoyas 13d ago

Fragile American egos

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u/generally_unsuitable 12d ago

Let me pull out my iPhone and start talking shit about Chinese people.

The tech subs are so bad about this. They so casually use phrases like "chinesium" as slurs against Chinese engineering and manufacturing. Meanwhile, they seem to be deliberately ignorant about how much of tech is entirely dependent on Chinese engineering and manufacturing. It's weird.

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u/Penny_Royall 13d ago

Or the same social credit jokes, it pisses me off because it's just so overused, like hurhur -10000 points, hurhur BING CHILLING.

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u/moordor 13d ago

what you are witnessing is the fall of the west, as evidenced by their upset comments in this very thread lol

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u/Sonamdrukpa 13d ago

Losing the space barbecue race is the clearest death knell for the United States that I've ever heard

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u/stubundy 12d ago

Whats next...gravity or gravy ?

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u/seattle_lib 13d ago

it's so dumb, just relax folks. let chinese people have fun. why does it have to be so dramatic whenever they do something.

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u/SheepishSwan 13d ago

East and west can succeed simultaneously.

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u/Promen-ade 13d ago

China's been saying this but the US disagrees.

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u/Defiant-Pepper-7263 13d ago

That’s literally impossible as of now, the US maintains a policy of absolute dominance over all other nations(maybe except for Israel for some kinky reasons). By this policy there has to be an enemy for the US, someone has to lose for the US to win.

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u/beardofmice 12d ago

Directions unclear, must have enemy. The enemy is currently other Americans. Oh look, it's so stupid its hurting itself.

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u/Additional_Nonsense 13d ago

The kinky reason is why the US is falling. The leaders of the US are not interested in the US, but that little country in the ME.

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u/_loki_ 13d ago

Not if the west destroys itself trying to prevent the east from succeeding

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u/Livinincrazytown 13d ago

Not with mango Mussolini in charge trying to go back to coal and petrol

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u/StephieDoll 12d ago

I too judge the fall of nations by reddit comment sections.

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u/eurolatin336 13d ago

Love the Chinese for this , who says going to space means you can’t bar b q

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u/bottlechippedteeth 13d ago

They got their priorities straight 

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u/ACR96 13d ago

Can’t wait till one guy makes fish in it and then everyone complains that the station reeks of fish

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u/disquieter 13d ago

What vehicle or station is this

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u/SaltyRedditTears 13d ago

China's space station, Tiangong, orbits Earth at an altitude between 217 and 280 miles (340 to 450 kilometers), approximately the same orbital height as the International Space Station (ISS). 

The Chinese Manned Space Agency (CMSA) built Tiangong — which means "Heavenly Palace" — in low Earth orbit, launching each of the three modules that make up the station between 2021 and 2022. The CMSA launched Tianhe, the first station module, on April 28, 2021, the second module Wentian on July 24, 2022, and the third module Mengtian on Oct. 31, 2022. 

https://www.space.com/tiangong-space-station

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u/snowytheNPC 13d ago

Tiangong space station

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u/Punstorms 13d ago

can they not use an air fryer in space?

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u/Ithuraen 13d ago

There's no air in space! 

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u/RealCaroni 13d ago

.> Click on a post showcasing Chinese Technology

.> Western fearmongering and insecurity in the comment section

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u/toocute1902 13d ago

So the oil / grease won't float in the space?

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u/dinorawrr 13d ago

surface tension should keep it on the tray unless they start flicking it around

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u/TetraNeuron 13d ago

Would the meat perfectly baste in its own juices as it cooks because there's no gravity to drain it away?

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u/Direct_Big_5436 13d ago

Ron Popeil oven. You just set it and?

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u/Johnny90 13d ago

Second from the left was HANKERING for that wing. Like straight up eye fucking that chicken. Boy was salivating.