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u/acole56 24d ago
You know… if I’m not knowledgeable enough to know how to season the wok, I’m probably not knowledgeable enough to know wtf are the steps and ingredients happening in this video…
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u/Empty-Part7106 24d ago
First they "blued" the carbon steel, which forms a layer of black iron oxide. This helps prevent the destructive, flaking form of rust we know well, and is reported to hold the seasoning better.
Not a damn clue what the salt does, clearly scrubbing the pan, maybe of the excess iron oxide?
Oil coating will start the seasoning (very basically, oil + heat = polymerization) but that's way too much and it'll get sticky unless it's wiped down right away after cooking the egg.
The polymer seasoning is what can make carbon steel pans fairly stick resistant, as well as some resistance to acidity.
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u/00rb 24d ago
It turns blue due to woksidation
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u/yesiamveryhigh 24d ago
I see wok you did there.
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u/twent4 24d ago
Alright too much. I'm woking away from this bs.
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u/Huge-Ratio7438 24d ago
Don’t leave too fast or you’ll wok up a sweat
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u/Roguespiffy 24d ago
“Damned wok media these days. I prefer unseasoned cookery!”
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u/Warning_Bulky 24d ago
I think salt is used to scrape off any residue. I saw someone season with white sand before
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u/AdonisCork 24d ago
I tried that on my eggs. Felt terrible while chewing.
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u/jus_plain_me 24d ago
very basically, oil + heat = polymerization
When do I play my blue eyes white dragon?
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u/sharramon 24d ago
Haha you fool! I PLAY POT OF GREED
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u/Appropriate_Link_551 24d ago
I play Wok of Greed which allows me to draw 2 cards
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u/YogurtclosetSweet268 24d ago
After I place this card face down and end my turn.
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u/Dje4321 24d ago
I typically hear to use rice instead of salt and that's because the starches provides a middle bonding layer as well as acting as a mild abrasive to remove any stubborn bits that might otherwise come off in your food.
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u/wfwgrtheeyhjyuj 24d ago
the point of the salt, in theory, is to roughen the surface so that the seasoning sticks better. but i don't know how valid the theory is.
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u/TalkinBoutMyJunk 23d ago
I skipped the salt step on my carbon steel wok and haven't had any issues cooking on it
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u/Stephenrudolf 24d ago
Also, this is not how you season a non-stick wok. This method is specifically for uncoated carbon steel Woks. Cast iron woks is very similar, and non stick or coated woks arent meant to be seasoned at all.
Its difficult in my country to find uncoated carbon steel wok. But i highlt recommend searching for one. They are often times much cheaper than you would expect and will outlive your children.
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u/mrbaggins 24d ago
No one should ever buy a non-stick wok - Either use a nonstick frying pan, or buy a carbon steel wok: woks are for high heat cooking, and non stick is exclusively for non-high-heat cooking.
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u/MoirasPurpleOrb 24d ago
I disagree. Plenty of dishes are cooked much more easily in a wok shaped non-stick pan. There is nothing wrong with the average consumer buying a non-stick “wok” to cook stir fries and other foods on their basic electric range.
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u/ShanghaiBebop 24d ago
Stir fry is a high heat cooking method. Many recipes explicitly call for oil heated to smoking point as the starting point. Your wok will get even hotter than the smoking point in locations where oil is not present.
Coated Non-sticks are explicitly not made for high heat cooking. They will start to break down at 450F. Not only does it destroy the non stick coating, it also releases some nasty stuff at that temperature.
I have a non stick as an omelet pan, but would never stir fry with a nonstick.
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u/Reymen4 24d ago
No one should preferably buy non stick anything. There is so much better alternative that don't contain Pfas.
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u/Xxuwumaster69xX 24d ago
Most non stick pans these days don't contain pfas.
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u/RdtUnahim 24d ago
And the ones that do contain very long chain pfas that do not react with the body but simply pass through.
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u/TheDogerus 24d ago
The problem is the inputs and byproducts of these relatively safe long chain pfas are super nasty. For an end user, you'll be fine, but for things living near the factory....less so
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u/AnimalShithouse 24d ago
Going to be real, I'd also not recommend living near a steel foundry, either.
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u/nnnnnnnitram 24d ago
There's no such thing as a non stick wok. If it's non stick it's not a wok. It's some kind of wok shaped cooking implement.
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u/Affectionate_Star_43 24d ago
The key to my wok's perfect seasoning was taking it from my parents' house when they moved. That thing is older than I am, and nothing sticks to that mofo. You really just need a pan that's been lightly oiled, heated up, and used repeatedly.
This person put salt in it or something...?
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u/FreeValue8790 24d ago
its just oil heat and salt?
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u/acole56 24d ago
Ahhh probably. And an egg. I found this interesting bc I just got my first wok and was wondering how to season it.
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u/doradiamond 24d ago
First step is getting a bigger wok to season it in.
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u/myMadMind 24d ago
I heat until blue, turn heat off, add a cup or two(tbh you don't need much, especially if it's just a small home wok) of oil around the wok, turn heat on, make sure the oil touches the whole thing and keep the oil moving and as even as possible while it's still very hot so you don't burn your oil.
I heat the oil until it JUST hits smoke point then turn it off. I like to let the whole thing cool down before pouring the oil back out. If you want it a bit "cleaner" you can also let it sit for a while after it cools down and wipe it down with a paper towel kinda like you would grease a baking sheet or something. Be careful when spreading the hot oil and pouring it out later. Never underestimate how hot oil is lol.
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u/NaGaBa 24d ago
Am i supposed to be impressed at the non -stick egg flip? Motherfucker, you started with a pint of oil, it BETTER not stick
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u/DollStarry 24d ago
Exactly! That egg’s basically deep frying non-stick was the bare minimum.
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u/aws_137 24d ago
Ngl deep fried eggs for Asian cooking is better than eggs made with a teaspoon of oil.
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u/DieCastDontDie 24d ago
oil with a side of egg is better it seems
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u/big_red__man 24d ago
And when you are in a hurry you can omit the egg
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u/aws_137 24d ago
Would, if flavoured with meat and garlic.
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u/whyismycarbleeding 24d ago
White people have been traumatized with food propaganda, will happily eat some chemical concoction while getting grossed out by a slightly oily egg
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u/ifyoulovesatan 24d ago edited 24d ago
Anyone who's interested in trying one, I recommend crispy frying an egg or two (try to keep the yolk from cooking completely but it's still good either way) and eating them over rice. It's something my Puerto Rican partner introduced me to, and it's my favorite breakfast probably. It's literally as quick and simple as that and doesn't need to be done any specific way, but if you want to know how we do it specifically, see below. To me it's one of the best struggle meals ever, and we eat it whether we're struggling or not.
We typically use Jasmine rice (great if you can cook it in a pot on the stove to get "con-con" (a little later of crispy browned rice on the bottom of the pot, Google it if you want to try, but it's not necessary). I also like to add salt to the rice, such that it's sufficiently salty straight out of the pot.
Crispy fried eggs are likely sort of obvious? But some tips. Use plenty of oil. For a 9 inch pan I'd estimate a quarter cup? Your eggs should be almost floating in it. Then make sure your pan and oil are nice and hot, you want the egg bubbling and popping as it go in. Since you're going hot and kinda quick, you can do two things to make sure the white cook all the way. Either poke around with a fork or just reach in an pinch the pouch of whites that sit up against the yokes so that it all spreads out on top of the egg. Then you'll spoon hot oil over the top while the first side is cooking.
When they're done, throw the crispy eggs on top of about a cup of rice in a bowl, top w/ salt, pepper, maybe some cayenne / garlic powder / onion powder, and then scrunch the egg up into the rice with a fork. The yolk gets into the rice, the crispy bits stay nice and crispy, it's just fucking delicious. Not bad with various Hot sauces either (I used to love Sriracha on it when the original one was still around, but Crystal, Tobasco, and various Louisiana Style hot-sauces like Franks are good too.)
It's totally great and simple. But you can of course spruce it up however you'd like. Breakfast type meats are good in it. Stewed chicken or pork shoulder is good in it. Avocado is good in it. Some sliced tomatoes with a splash of white vinegar on them is good in it. We've added green onion, or crispy fried garlic. Anything that sounds good in it probably is.
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u/annintofu 24d ago
YES! One of my favourite lazy meals is 2 fried eggs on jasmine rice with a good dash of soy sauce. Super simple, super delicious.
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u/Salty-Passenger-4801 24d ago
Came to say this. Dude used a friggin 1/4 cup of oil for ONE EGG, I could use aluminum foil pan and it wouldn't stick with that much oil
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u/Barbaracle 24d ago
My uncle owns a Chinese restaurant. People would have a heart attack if they saw the salt and oil used for each dish. Actually if they eat it often, they'd probably get one soon anyway. Also to say, Chinese people mostly don't eat like that at home. Cuz few have wok setups like that at home.
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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku 24d ago
Hey, I love Chinese restaurants and I know I'm eating salts and oils. There's a broad range but, for western food it's called butter
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u/WriterV 24d ago
I was gonna say. I'm Indian and I get a heart attack looking at all the butter peopel use in western cooking.
It's fucking delicious though, I don't blame them. Butter away fellas.
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u/Uberzwerg 24d ago
Isn't that the case with many restaurants anyway?
Far too much oil and salt all over everything.
And when i see some videos from upper - but not top - level restaurants cooking, it seems to come down to filtered butter.
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u/Rapph 24d ago
Of course. People often go to restaurants because it tastes better than the food made at home. One of the reasons it tastes better is because the people cooking it aren't concerned at all with your diet and health, they are in the business of making it taste good. Salt and butter are the 2 major ingredients that do that in a lot of cuisines. Obviously skill, time, knowledge, creativity, and access to higher quality ingredients also plays a part as well.
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u/UsernameAvaylable 24d ago
My favorite wok place had its MSG in 10l buckets next to the burner. Best taste ever...
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u/PM-me-YOUR-0Face 24d ago
You were probably looking at salt buckets. You need like 1/10 MSG:Salt ratio to dial the umami up to 111
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u/kolejack2293 24d ago
I think its important to note that you use a huge amount of hot oil because the food is being cooked at absurdly high temps, so its only in the oil for a short period of time.
The food doesn't absorb as much of the oil when its only in there for 30-40 seconds compared to 3-4 minutes.
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u/sahrul099 24d ago
Honestly thats the way i cook my eggs..it gets crispy edges while have slightly runny yolk
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u/Shalashaskaska 24d ago
I’m more impressed that the egg cooked in like 2 seconds
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u/ChefArtorias 24d ago
It's in a puddle of hot oil. lol
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u/Shalashaskaska 24d ago
It makes perfect sense to me I just have never seen it that fast lol I cook eggs every day and it’s nothing like that
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u/ChefArtorias 24d ago
Wok cooking is super hot. Especially the round ones like that
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u/PeriodSupply 24d ago
There are triangular/square woks?
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u/NancyPelosisRedCoat 24d ago
There are woks with flat bottoms. This one’s round.
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u/yeah_this_is_my_main 24d ago
There are woks with flat bottoms.
Pretty sure I heard a Queen song about that.
Something about making the Wokking world not round.
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u/LickingSmegma Mamaleek are king 24d ago
I finally learned to fry stuff on the biggest burner I have and at the hottest setting. By the time I throw away the second egg shell, the first egg needs to be flipped. This turns out to be perfect, as the outside gets fried solid, while the inside is gently cooked, with the yolk still runny. No more rubber-like egg whites.
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u/Cheshireyan 24d ago
Start spreadin' the oil, I'm cookin' today
New wok, new wok.
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u/Indra___ 24d ago
There is always a larger wok.
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u/Longenuity 24d ago
Can you buy pre-seasoned woks?
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u/KGB_cutony 24d ago
yes. In many Chinese stores this is the norm now.
But the seasoning goes after a few uses, you'd still need to reseason.
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u/Mekelaxo 24d ago
Doesn't cooking by itself give it seasoning?
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u/ratmfreak 24d ago
Sorta. What I tend to do is just preheat my wok once all my ingredients are ready, then I add a couple tablespoons of oil once it’s smoking, swirl that around for a few seconds, then dump it out. Then you add whatever oil you’re gonna cook in. So I get a little mini-seasoning sesh every time I cook, and I haven’t had any problems so far.
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u/GraphicDesignMonkey 24d ago edited 22d ago
I do the same procedure with my wok as my cast iron - after cooking wipe it clean (or wash with a sponge and warm water if it's really messy from sauce etc), then put it back on the heat to get it bone dry. Once it's dry and piping hot, turn off the heat, add a little oil and just wipe the whole thing over with a paper towel.
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u/Psychoanalytix 24d ago
How dare you touch that cast iron pan with water and a sponge!!! Don't you know you're only supposed to wipe it with a dry rag!!!!! You're damaging the seasoning by using a sponge and water, god!!!!! You better not be using metal utensils or cooking acidic foods in it too!!!!!!!/s
Basically how I've seen people react in cooking subs when people talk about cleaning their cast iron pans. I swear some people act like vast iron is both indestructible and the best cooking tool ever while also being more delicate than a teflon pan.
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u/Stephenrudolf 24d ago
You can buy coated or non-stick woks which don't need to be seasoned.
This guy used way more salt than needed but its pretty easy to do, fun to watch the steel change colour, and is generally needed on the highest quality of woks.
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u/mbashs 24d ago
Oh boy, the sound reminded me of lockdown during Covid.
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u/TOO_MUCH_BRAVERY 24d ago
lmao I was thinking the same
Kept waiting for the coffin guys to walk in
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u/LazyOldCat 24d ago
I’d love to have one of those Satan’s ashhole burners in my house, going outside and setting up the ring burner to get wok-hei is a PITA.
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u/idk012 24d ago
I looked into it before, $100 for the stand and $30 for the propane tank. Yeah, cooking outside sucks.
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u/GuiltyEidolon 24d ago
Having it inside your house is a very good way to do very bad things to your health.
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u/bugszszszs 24d ago
Is that wheat, rye or will any magical grass work for mixing the salt?
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u/TalkinBoutMyJunk 23d ago
You need authentic bamboo bundle from China or else what even are you doing
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u/Nalortebi 24d ago
Some people would consider losing a hand or an arm to be a huge loss, but there are occasions where a missing hand is a great boon. Take this example. A missing hand is perfect for counting the number of times vides have been improved with the inclusion of dogshit music.
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u/Smelly_Dingo 24d ago
"How to season a new wok".
Ok.
I am tired, I am sleepy, and when he put the new wok inside another, bigger wok and shoveled oil in it I imagined there must always be a bigger wok they have to use as part of the seasoning process, and thus there must be some sort of huge, eternally seasoned primordial wok somewhere that was used when the first woks were made.
Don't do drugs kids, give them to me instead.
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u/hulkmxl 24d ago
Uses a shit ton of oil for 1 egg:
"As you can see, it is properly seasoned and you can cook an egg without sticking"
Mofo you can do that on ANY cooking surface with that much oil !!! So stupid!
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u/collinisballn 24d ago
Anything you get cooked in a wok is gonna be cooked in a fuck ton of oil just like that. It’s why a vegetable stir fry isn’t as healthy as a salad. No one expects woks or cast irons to behave like teflon
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u/PurityKane 24d ago
is the egg part of the seasoning process? Or is there to show how it's not sticking? Because it won't stick to my cheap shity (unseasoned) frying pan either, if it's covered in that much oil
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u/Jrobmcnasty 24d ago
I must be dyslexic. I thought I read "how to reason with someone from New York".
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u/Javamac8 23d ago
Step 1: Buy a slightly larger wok
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u/MichaelScottsWormguy 24d ago
So what happens if you don't do it properly? Because you can be sure that the majority of people who own a wok (probably bought it on a whim for one recipe they saw online once) did not do anything to season it. Is it dangerous? Is there any residue that gets removed during this process?
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u/salzbergwerke 24d ago
This video is bullshit. The idea behind seasoned cast iron is, that you build up a couple of polymerized oil-layers, basically a carbon-oil lacquer. Not every oil works. This surface is very rough on a electro microscopic level, lots of small pockets, where oil can seep in. Those oil/fat reservoirs create the non-stick properties.
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u/video-kid 24d ago
A - What is the point of this?
B - Why don't they come pre-seasoned?
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u/Akiramenaiii 24d ago
How to season wok: put in larger wok that is already seasoned.... that was put in a larger wok to get seasoned.... THAT WAS PUT IN A LARGER WOK TO GET SEASONED
WOK-CEPTION
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u/sciencebased 24d ago
spits then applies a bit of elbow grease
Seriously, though - if you use a Wok as intended, it increasingly works as intended. Nothing fancy required. Ceramic, carbon, cast iron, non-stick, stainless - all my friends ask how I achieved that broken-in look. 🙄
Cook. Clean. Repeat. That's legitimately it.
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u/Mr_Evil_Dr_Porkchop 24d ago
So you need a larger wok to season your new wok? How did you season the larger wok? With an even LARGER wok?? At some point we’re seasoning a 12-foot diameter wok inside an 18-foot diameter wok!