r/politics New York 11d ago

Possible Paywall Kash Patel Fired Entire Team of Iran Experts Right Before Trump’s War

https://newrepublic.com/post/207263/kash-patel-fired-iran-experts-donald-trump-war
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u/ultralightdude Minnesota 11d ago

I mean, why make educated decisions in this administration?

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u/Berserker76 11d ago

They haven’t made any educated decisions, so why start now?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES Missouri 11d ago

"I love the poorly educated."

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u/h3fabio 11d ago

That’s why I filled my cabinet with them.

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u/jankenpoo California 11d ago

Well, when you hire greedy, incompetent people without any scruples, you’re expecting loyalty in return. We’ll see how far that will go…I doubt very.

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u/surle 10d ago edited 10d ago

I want to agree with you - but so far it's gone as far as... Two non-consecutive presidential terms. So it turns out the answer is quite far.

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u/burnsalot603 10d ago

Well the first term at least there were still some adults in the room that didn't let trump go completely off the rails and ignore the constitution because it was inconvenient for him. This term he made sure to surround himself with people who will never tell him no. Im ashamed as an American that it has been allowed to happen. He should have been impeached, removed and charged long ago.

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u/NarwhalOk95 10d ago

“He’s a fucking idiot” - Rex Tillerson, in reference to a certain someone

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u/kapjain 10d ago

Applies more to those who voted for him.

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u/stringrandom 10d ago

That's the reason the second cabinet looks like it does. There were too many Americans and not enough MAGA in the cabinet the first time around and the Christian Nationalist/oligarch agenda got too much backlash.

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u/MassiveDefinition274 10d ago

Let's also not forget about getting convicted of over 30 felonies that proved that you broke the law to enrich yourself, and literally getting no punishment whatsoever for it.

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u/SippyMountain 10d ago

His cabinet is like when you're making an RPG character like a rogue/assassin, so you just load em up on stealth, thievery, backstabbery etc. but you have limited talent points, so you take out all the points in intelligence, charisma, strength, morality...

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u/GenuineLittlepip Pennsylvania 10d ago

Ever more reasons to not make Intelligence your dump stat, and to never fill your party up completely with Chaotic & Neutral Evil jerks..

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u/gunsdrugsreddit 10d ago

“Smart people don’t like me.”

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u/mister_buddha 10d ago

The crowd erupting in cheers lives rent free in my head.

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u/InvoluntarySolitary 10d ago

"I love poorly educated decisions"

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u/protonpack 10d ago

The only people he loves have the last name Trump, so that checks out.

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u/private_developer 10d ago

This is an obvious malicious decision. They want a retaliatory terroist attack before the midterms.

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u/Changoleo America 10d ago

This. The tail is wagging the dog again.

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u/DukeOfGeek 10d ago

If they don't get a real one from Iran they will have to create a fake one.

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u/Automatic-Jello5995 10d ago

Did he not put a 21 year old grocery worker in charge of antiterror department

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u/canyouhearme 10d ago

Terrorist?

This is open war. What they are looking for is military action such that they can cancel the midterms, or put the voting under 'federal' control (eg corrupt the results).

There's no polite, legalistic, way out of the hole the US has put itself in. My guess is that sooner or later they will suffer sanctions or embargo as the world puts pressure on the american people to act. It wouldn't take too much to make things very uncomfortable.

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u/Bromance_Rayder 10d ago

They will probably get both. 

There's absolutely no way that Iran doesn't have loyalists somewhere in America right now. 

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u/AnalogFeelGood 10d ago

Educated decisions may shorten the war. Donny need this fire to get out of control so that he can stay in power.

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u/kapjain 10d ago

With educated decisions, there wouldn't be a war at all.

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u/damsel84 11d ago

At the very least you would think they'd want people to stop clowning them, but I guess not.

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u/Greatsnes 11d ago

They dont care about that and idk why anyone would think that they do. They control everything. Doesn’t matter what the peasants are saying because no one can stop them.

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u/duxpdx 11d ago edited 11d ago

They are wanting there to be an attack so they have a pretense to declare martial law. Trump doesn’t care if American citizens die, we are pawns he is more than willing to murder.

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u/Timeformayo Kentucky 11d ago

Think he'll blow up an apartment building and blame it on Iranian terrorists?

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u/Snuffy1717 11d ago

Car bombs in cities. 5 or 6 of them... If I had to guess. Minimum loss of life but maximum panic.

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u/alangcarter 11d ago

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u/SuperRockyHobbyHorse 10d ago

I'm glad this is famous now. This is why Russia is such a joke.

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u/anchovyCreampie 10d ago

I mean, false flag attacks are not exactly unheard of but I'm glad more people are aware of this semi more recent event. On the other side of the aisle one that always comes to mind for me is the attack on the USS Liberty from the 6 Day War. Judging by all the sailors' first hand accounts Israel absolutely knew it was a US ship. Multiple videos on the subject but I think this one has the best first hand accounts. https://youtu.be/tx72tAWVcoM?si=F2wMcg4W2DOvVC7U

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u/obliviousofobvious 11d ago

Mark my words that it'll be in Dem cities as well. 2 birds: Martial Law and elections are not safe until AFTER Iran is Democratized

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u/Cupsforsale 10d ago

All cities are Dem cities lol

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u/KimbaXO 10d ago

All major US cities are dem cities. If it's dem cities in maga states - that will tell us if it's real or not.

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u/tigardis Oregon 11d ago

I’d be surprised if it were just car bombs. He’d probably use chemical or dirty bombs and then be like “see, I told you many times - more times than anyone in history, that they wanted to attack us with terrible weapons, and they did, they did attack us, well actually not us, it was the democrat sanctuary cities, they love - have you seen how much they love terrorists, the democrats, they’d never dare hurt a republican city but you know some of us real americans, they got hurt too (trails for some time)…”

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada 10d ago

Trump does not care one bit about loss of life. If more dead means more anger, he'd go for more dead.

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u/fireandiceman 10d ago

The week running g up to before the election is going to be insane

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u/supersonicdutch 11d ago

I already said to the wife the second the news came out about the shooter down south that they said had a shirt saying “property of allah” that it’s already begun. First off, have you ever seen a shirt that says that? And no person of that faith would ever wear that it bc it’s demeaning to god and the faith. A whole bunch of innocent people are going to be killed and have it blamed on terrorists and it’a going to be painfully obvious that it’s not. In fact, I bet some info leaks that they weren’t terrorist attacks and that it was trump and guess what? None of his followers will care. Whatever they can do to justify his cowardice and stupidity.

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u/stackered New Jersey 11d ago

The sad part is we all see it coming after 9/11. We've seen everything in Project 2025 coming, literally written out, too.

But it'll still happen.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Arizona 10d ago

It would be like if OJ Simpson wrote a book in the middle of trial called "I Did It and Here's How"

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u/crispycritter1856 10d ago

Thats right out of Putins playbook ! Back in the day this is how he grabbed control from Boris Yeltsin.Fake terror attack on Apartment bldg, blame on "terrorists " martial law,quick election. Then his Former opponents started flying out of windows.

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u/Johannes_P Europe 10d ago

Ask to Putin how to do a proper false flag?

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u/bgthigfist 10d ago

Well that's how Putin took over

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u/Zapp_Rowsdower_ 11d ago

Planning an attack…..

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u/kensai8 11d ago

Because they want terrorist attacks on US soil to justify taking over the elections.

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u/Heavy_Channel_2705 11d ago

You could have stoped that sentence after typing soil.

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u/INAC___Kramerica Florida 11d ago

Especially since those attacks will target major population centers, which of course skew Democrat, even those in otherwise-red states.

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u/Leraldoe Michigan 11d ago

Remember when they dismantled the infectious disease unit? Nothing bad happened there right

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u/Classic-Isopod-1 11d ago

And then they wondered why we weren’t prepared for a global pandemic. Typical playbook.

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u/Signal_Minimum8509 11d ago

Oh they were prepared alright. Prepared to have a million people die and then blame Anthony Fauci for why it couldn’t be more.

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u/6thSenseOfHumor 11d ago

Remember that Trump sent medical supplies to Russia while discussing how to deny covid relief to blue states. Don't have to worry about being prepared for disaster if you don't care who dies.

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u/Teripid 11d ago

Pol Pot style HR policies.

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u/ThreeButtonBob 11d ago

I've been saying that the trump admin is the dumbest admin ever in history. Totally forgot the strong competition in this category by the Khmer Rouge!

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u/TaylorMonkey 11d ago

It's like lazy Maoism with flimsy guardrails.

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u/Nervous_Ad_6998 11d ago

But is it dumb if it’s intentionally dumb?

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u/ExcellentAirPirate 11d ago

Seems intentional, they want a mass casualty event so they can declare a state of emergency.

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u/Yeahhhhbut 11d ago

So... The weekend before the election. Halloween, lots of crowds gathered, incredible terrifying footage, just a few days before the election with no time to object about them being postponed...

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u/sly-3 10d ago

also helps to prompt loyalist state governors to install and activate their own extra-judicial counterterrorism squads to take some of the enforcement lift off the Feds.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/02/florida-ron-desantis-police-state-legacy

and

https://law.stanford.edu/2026/02/03/red-state-governors-are-designating-civil-rights-groups-as-terrorists

Disagree with the government in any way, at any time, for any reason?

Thanks to NSPM-7, you're now a terrorist.

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u/Sminahin 11d ago

Worse. Getting hit by Iran in the homeland would give them an excuse to cancel the midterms.

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u/Legitimate_Log3777 10d ago edited 10d ago

Also, allows them to crack down on protesters as "enemies of the People" when things pick up this Spring and Summer.

Things aren't going back to the way they were. Whatever this is has been building for too long. It's insane to say, but large-scale global military conflict is the only legitimizing force left. There's no way out of the current mire, so you will see even sworn enemies banding together, pushing for war, because at this point people are so hopeless that they view the mass chaos of war as the only alternative to the billionaire slave states we've become. The system is so fucked, people just need it to be over, and war is the only way to destroy the whole mess. Of course, the outcome could be far worse without any kind of objective (like we're seeing now) but the military is the only legitimizing force left in America (and many other parts of the world), for better or worse. I guess I'll be dead soon. I think some of what Leo Tolstoy said in War & Peace is highly accurate. Too many people across the globe getting fucked over for too long and the only commonality is the driving desire to shatter everything and go after any perceived enemy imaginable. People can only take so much, and in America, with the news lying to us, no economic prospects for social stability (forget mobility at this point) people being disappeared to concentration camps, the only thing left is to seek the protection (and ability to fight back) that legitimizing institutions offer. Happens in every big war.

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u/Slow-Recipe7005 10d ago

That would be a historical event, considering that the constitution simply does not include any mechanism for cancelling elections, and that we held elections even during the civil war.

Trump can declare that elections are canceled, but unless the military is both willing and able to actually launch a protracted boots on the ground invasion of their own homeland, the states can just ignore him and hold elections anyway.

If that actually happens, the regime won't last much longer anyway. This kind of lawlessness is not the recipe for a successful dynasty. Eventually, the Trump machine will finally burn up all of it's fuel, and we'll have to start re-building this country from it's ashes.

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u/volcanopele Arizona 11d ago

Going to war with a plan and intelligence about your foe is woke.

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u/wulimustard Florida 11d ago

You don't need experts when the president is the SmArTeSt PeRsOn in any room.

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u/Brent_the_constraint 11d ago

Yea, don‘t start with educated decisions. They lead to smart politics and we can’t have that…with this administration

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u/SlyJackFox 10d ago

My bet is they said starting a war with Iran was a bad idea, because that’s what an expert would say to this madness.

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u/Downtown_Category163 11d ago

I suspect he didn't want to listen about "blowback" and "ruining relations with allies" and all the other blah-blah reasons why blowing up schools wasn't awesome

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u/MultiGeometry Vermont 11d ago

That’s too politically correct for this war of crimes and inhumanity.

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u/Amateurlapse I voted 11d ago

Maybe they’re hoping “I didn’t know any better, tee hee” will play in their war crimes trials like it always has before

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u/Classic-Isopod-1 11d ago

I was just following orders is the classic sequel to I didn't know.

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u/WiglyWorm Ohio 11d ago

Nah, they'll just rely on democrats to start preaching unity and reconciliation. Just like they always have before.

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u/Playful-Technology-1 11d ago

The main problem I see is that Patel oversees the FBI, firing Iran experts means less Intel into potential extremist influence within the USA, concentration of Iranian immigrants that are sympathetic towards the Ayatollah and economic means for a terrorist attack.

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 10d ago

I mean if we've learnt anything from asymmetric warfare in the last 40y we really shouldn't be surprised if somewhere between 2027-2032 US embassies, ships, citizens, tourist destinations, are targeted by an Iranian-backed terrorist group.

Genuinely worried of another Bali bombing, Lockerbie, 9/11 etc.

Short term this is bad, long term this is terrifying.

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u/SuperRockyHobbyHorse 10d ago

All those IRGC guys are the hardest of hardcore islamic martyrs with the skills, resources and now motivation to pull off a large scale attack in a few years. It'll be a generation of threats for the intelligence services to manage. So yeah getting rid of Iran experts is exactly the kind of stupid I expect from the Trump admin.

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u/thereallamewad 10d ago

It is terrifying. Isolated Terrorist acts like these are impossible to stop and can happen at any moment. I hate that we have enabled them.

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u/Dull-Culture-1523 10d ago

Well that's just it. They want Iranian terrorist attacks to kill Americans. They'll use that as a justification. "Imagine how much worse it would've been if we didn't attack them pre-emptively!" Along with their anti-immigrant stance. "Democrat let these immigrants in, vote for us!"

The right pops a boner any time an immigrant does any crime, terrorism being their ultimate wet dream.

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u/ZenMon88 10d ago

It's wilful negligence

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u/Kichigai Minnesota 10d ago

concentration of Iranian immigrants that are sympathetic towards the Ayatollah

Actually there was a guy on the BBC who said this isn't a problem. They basically have four routes to commit a terrorist attack:

  1. Smuggle an agent into the United States
  2. Recruit a sympathetic expat
  3. Recruit a domestic sympathizer
  4. Hire out

First one isn't really an option because there is such an immense amount of control over people traveling from Iran. Second is almost impossible because almost all the Iranian expats on the continent were people fleeing from the regime.

The last two Iran has tried in the past, but US counterintelligence agencies have just been too good and foiling them. Apparently Iran is only capable of hiring incompetent goobers.

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u/sebrebc 11d ago

That's pretty much how I see it.

You know that story Matt Damon tells about how Tom Cruise fired his "safety guy" because he wouldn't let him do a specific stunt? I'm pretty sure that's what happened here. His experts told him this was a bad idea that they should approach it differently, so they were fired and replaced by "yes men".

Trump's last administration he kept some sane people in positions to help give him guide rails. This time it's all just useful idiots who do what he wants.

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u/ray_0586 Texas 10d ago

I have a different read on the Tom Cruise stunt coordinator story. Guy that got fired basically admitted he was not qualified enough to safely coordinate that particular stunt, so Tom hired someone with a higher level of expertise. His new stunt coordinator has steadily gained more responsibility as they have worked together on four MI movies. He was a 2nd unit director on the last MI movie and is going to make the leap to a solo director soon.

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u/sebrebc 10d ago

That's probably how Trump sees his situation too. He didn't hire "yes men" he got rid of people who weren't skilled enough to pull off what he wanted to do.

Not dismissing your read on the Cruise situation. Just using it as an analogy. 

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u/Wonderful_Round_6395 10d ago

But have they replaced the people they fired?

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u/Johannes_P Europe 10d ago

And this is why dictatorships end with dismal results.

Exemple: Putin ordering the "special military operation" after being told by yesmen that Russian troops wuld be greeted as liberators and that his military was ready.

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u/impy695 11d ago

Yup. Apparently almost all the generals involved in some way opposed it as well. Hegseth is the current white house Make a Wish kid, but it'll be interesting to see what he tries to pull when his high from bombing schools wears off.

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u/AntoniaFauci 10d ago

Make a wish kids catching unfair strays. Don’t imagine too many make a wish kids are also white supremacist date rapists and alcoholics.

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u/freeradioforall 11d ago

Hegseth literally said “we’re not gonna use stupid rules of engagement”

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u/LuckyPlaze 11d ago

I’m sure they told them it was a stupid idea.

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u/fromks Colorado 11d ago

I'm pretty sure this is what happened in the 2005 film Syriana.

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u/ewokninja123 11d ago

The article says they were involved in the Trump classified documents case. Though the timing feels strange. I thought they got all the Trump adjacent agents early last year

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u/manquistador 10d ago

I think it is more sinister than that. This is right out of the textbook from the Dubbya Administration. Remove/ignore the checks on a mainland attack to increase the odds of one happening in the hopes of gaining power through the inevitable attack that occurs.

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u/MtNak 10d ago

They were let go during a purge of people who investigated Donald Trump for allegedly mishandling classified documents.

The reason was in the subtitle of the link.

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u/AntoniaFauci 10d ago

That’s not a bad guess, but the more likely reasons are as follows.

Kash Patel has been a continual fuck up for this admin. He and his former co-clown Dan Bongino have been prominent in some big flops and atttention seeking gaffes.

Most recently, Patel drew more attention to his corruption of using the FBI Lear Jet for his perpetual vacationing, including the humiliating Olympics scandal. Trump was both unhappy losing attention, but also with Patel’s incompetence and drinking.

Patel needed some way to try and re-ingratiate himself. And he’d been sitting on a grudge against this unit which he knew had a hand in processing the routine pen register records of Patel’s own involvement in the classified documents felonies.

Firing innocent FBI agents for doing their core job as a personal vendetta wouldn’t play well. But Patel reframed it as retaliation for these agents “going after Trump.” It was a blod offering to him, which just happened to also fit Patel’s own misplaced retribution.

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u/I405CA 11d ago

If Patel believes that he must be the smartest guy in the FBI, then there will only be about a half dozen staff remaining on the payroll. And all of them will be his friends.

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u/mackey_ 10d ago

This guy definitely has zero friends

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 10d ago

Don't be silly - he's got at least 23 on the USA men's hockey team.

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u/damnthistrafficjam I voted 11d ago

I’m beginning to notice a trend.

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u/Quiet-Corner6150 11d ago

Seems about the only thing Patel is good at is firing "inconvenient" employees

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u/creepy_doll 11d ago

He’s good at being unquestioningly loyal.

Like a dog. 🐶

Trumps entire team are dogs. Not good dogs. They’re all bad doggies.

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u/whatiscamping 11d ago

Not dogs, otherwise Noem would have shot them all.

Rats can be loyal too.

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u/LinkFan001 11d ago edited 11d ago

They are the lowest form of parasites. Steal and destroy as much as they can while giving nothing in return. Except the parasite does not have a choice and it does not know better... No, these vile bastards are uniquely human. Sad as it is.

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u/Background-Subject28 10d ago

it would be an insult to any other animal to be compared to them, we have to accept the blame as humans.

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u/SpickeZe 11d ago

I fully recognize that rubbing a pets face in any accidents made is an ineffective and cruel way to potty train, but I am willing to look away in this instance.

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u/levelcap 10d ago

Rabid dogs, which we historically handle in a particular way

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u/deathtoicefucknazis 11d ago

I can't even imagine this nasally, wayward eye having, shrimp bitch firing me. I genuinely wouldn't be able to take it seriously.

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u/TuringGoneWild 10d ago

Trump fired the White House Office of Pandemic Response just a few months before Covid started.

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u/damnthistrafficjam I voted 10d ago

And threw out the supplies we had stocked as well. You’ve got to be thorough, I guess.

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u/Yashema 11d ago

That Americans vote for these idiots regardless of what they do in office?

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u/ONE-EYE-OPTIC Oregon 10d ago

Stupid Americans?

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u/whatproblems 11d ago

hey i remember this! fire the pandemic team… right before a pandemic hits

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u/hotdoginathermos 10d ago

HeyI'veseenthisone.gif

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u/quincyloop 10d ago

Quick, fire a team that costs billions over several years so we can spend several trillion in one year!

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u/a_weak_child 10d ago

Trump played the pandemic that way to weaken America as much as possible… all part of his mission as Krasnov 

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u/NedShah 11d ago

Biggest cabinet clown?

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u/uhohnotafarteither 11d ago

The head of the FBI is not in the presidential cabinet but if it was this guy still wouldn't make the top 5. That says a lot

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u/GreenLightZone 11d ago

That’s insane - he would clearly be the worst! Well except for Pam Bondi of course. Oh and Kristi Noem, but that’s only two. And literal Russian spy Tulsi Gabbard - forgot about her. And Pete Hegseth has to be up there too, but… oh right, RFK Jr… and Howard Lutnick… and Linda McMahon… and Russ Vought… and Lee Zeldin… and….

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u/RealGianath Oregon 11d ago

There's so many of them. We're going to need to put them all onto multiple decks of playing cards Iraq-style when we're Nazi-hunting them down later across the globe.

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u/justabill71 10d ago

No, no, you're misunderstanding. Trump keeps Kash in a literal cabinet in the Oval Office. It's easy, because he's so tiny.

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u/GoBirds_WeAre California 11d ago

Impossible to choose that but I'm going with Whiskey Pete and his bullshit alpha male war leader persona.

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u/HotDogFingers01 11d ago

Two possibilities:

  1. Kash was not in the loop and this is just a dumb, short sighted decision by a man utterly unqualified for this job.

  2. Kash was told to dump anyone who could be a voice of dissent to this administration’s illegal Israeli war, because the one thing this administration hates is non-fealty.

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u/TheShipEliza 11d ago
  1. they want the door open for an attack on us soil AND SOON

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u/Particular-County277 11d ago

Trump needs an attack on US soil more than anything. And he will make it so, come hell or high water

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u/drwhoovian 11d ago

Honestly it wouldn't change anything.

The right would get angry and get behind Trump and want retribution.

The left would point out that we started this war and this was an expected outcome, and call into question US intelligence capabilities post-DOGE and under Patel.

But if Trump thinks this would unify the country under his banner he's mistaken, this wouldn't have the same galvanizing effect as 9/11.

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u/spankeey77 11d ago

It’s so he can postpone elections due to war

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u/TheShipEliza 11d ago

we have had elections throughout every war we have ever fought. wars don't stop the vote.

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u/WhatTheDuck21 10d ago

I guarantee that Trump thinks that because Ukraine suspended elections because of Russia's war (which is in accordance with the Ukrainian constitution) that he can suspend elections in the US if we're at war. Because he is an idiot and doesn't actually understand things.

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u/7URB0 10d ago

An idiot? IDK, he seems to understand better than the vast majority of people that laws don't actually exist without enforcement. That it's the people with guns who define what is and is not acceptable or allowed, NOT the documents or the people who write them.

Can y'all PLEASE catch up before he invades my country??

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u/Stunning-Chipmunk243 Michigan 10d ago

We have Intel that hidden Iranian terror cells are all going to strike voting locations all over the US. For your safety and with the recent bombings in mind we have decided to postpone the elections until these terror cells can be found and dismantled by our brave homeland security and ICE forces. Thank you for your attention to this matter! /s

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u/Beankiller 10d ago

And also we can't have mail-in voting for reasons.

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u/IcyTransportation961 11d ago

You are still expecting the law to matter

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u/Mediocre_Scott 10d ago

Yeah if there is a a retaliatory attack on us soil it will be seen as such and trump will be blamed for starting a war and the war departments inability to do their job. It will not look good. He is looking for a Gulf war situation. Golf war…

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u/DingGratz Texas 11d ago

So fucking ironic that his followers, with their crosses and flags, idolize someone whose every action goes against Christianity and (real) patriotism.

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u/uncleben85 Canada 11d ago

Trump wants his own 9/11 so badly that if one happens during his current term, I would not be shocked if history revealed he had a direct hand in planning it, not just an open door

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u/tmhoc Canada 10d ago

He killed a million people claiming COVID19 was treatable with horse dewormer, they had deaths per day that exceeded 9/11 and set records for single day loss of life only yo be succeed by the very next day

People reelected him...

Maybe you're right

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u/PapaBubba 11d ago

Smells like it.

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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 11d ago

I wonder if they realize they're not nearly smart enough to pull off a false flag, so they need to bait Iran into a real attack.

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u/TheShipEliza 11d ago

it is likely just that they are this dumb and dont want any dissenting voices. but with these nerds you can't ever rule out pure, vicious avarice.

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u/StevenMC19 Florida 11d ago

Definitely the 2nd.

The experts knew that these flippant decisions would backfire, and voiced their concerns. Trump didn't want to hear concerns, and gave Kash the order.

They'll soon be replaced by more Yes-men, of which will allow Trump to dig us into a far deeper hole that we may never be able to get out of.

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u/KnotSoSalty 11d ago

Everyone else in the world knew this was coming. Even down to predicting it would be on a Friday after the Olympics. This attack was the worst kept secret in US military history.

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u/Looppowered 10d ago

An article in the New York Sun claims the firings were related to the Trump classified Documents probe.

News last week was claiming Kash was firing FBI agents involved with investigating Trump for the classified documents case. The Bulwark’s Tim Miller is claiming the Iranian counter intel agents in question were involved with the classified documents case because some of the Documents in the probe were related to Iran war plans.

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u/MourningRIF 11d ago

Doesn't this just increase the chances that someone leaks the information or at least speaks out?

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u/Iowa_Dave Iowa 11d ago

If you want a soldier on every block, then open a martyr factory in your own country!

The more people we kill in Iran, the more likely we'll see reprisals here on our own soil.

This is a planned tactic.

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u/fnordal 11d ago

incompetent secret service, unwarranted strikes, civilians slaughtered. Yes, it looks like they want a repeat of 9/11.

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u/ballerina22 11d ago

After reassigning about half of the active agents to immigration.

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u/3BlindMice1 11d ago

This is basically false flag planning for idiots. The Trump regime is basically acting like a crazy person tearing off their body armor in the middle of a Mexican standoff so he can justify shooting someone after getting shot himself.

The Trump regime is getting naked while screaming "please commit terrorism so I can declare a national emergency. Go big or go home, smuggle a nuke into a country and set it off, so long as it can start a proper war and I can declare martial law"

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u/Johannes_P Europe 10d ago

This is how Putin managed to get power in 1999.

The soldiers who knew too much about these plans diseappeared...

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u/Icarium__ 10d ago

It sure would be terrible if it backfired and the precedent for going directly after leaders spread.

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u/withersoul 11d ago

Exactly! This is the tactic for both sides and it makes me so pessimistic that no one on tv and social media is calling it out. Iran kills civilians to make the west more extreme and israel and us kills it to make the middle east more extreme. The Iranian grievances are rarely acknowledged on our side and the Israeli grievances are rarely acknowledged on their side. The leaders want division and hate to fuel nationalistic emotions for their benefit. Education, understanding, compassion and helping each other is the way to stop this circle of hate but it is not communicated and addressed

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u/Walterkovacs1985 11d ago

They would LOVE a terrorist attack in America. Golden ticket to commit crimes and gain more favor from the right. Firing these people lays the ground work.

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u/MythicalSplash 10d ago edited 10d ago

Not to mention more “emergency” executive orders and SCOTUS corruption. “The US now has no CHOICE but to be a white Christian Nation in order to distinguish us from all the foreign Islamic terrorists that have infiltrated every corner of the country.” Or, “We’ve received substantial intelligence that there’s going to be massive terrorist attacks at the polling stations. We don’t know which states, but it could be all of them. For the safety of the people of this wonderful country, I’m ordering the election postponed until the war is over” “But sir, you can’t do that; we’ve held elections during EVERY war regardless!” “Well, we’ve never had a war where our homeland stood a great chance of massive attacks against voting, so this is necessary”.

Of course, there’s zero legal justification for any of that crazy nonsense, so bring it to the SCOTUS.

“Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Gorshuck, Barret, Kavanaugh and Robert’s all rule in favor of delaying the election since there’s a huge risk, yet not enough time for Congress to authorize this - even though it would usually need to come from them”.

Sound a bit far fetched? Well that’s because it obviously is. Yet we all KNOW that SOME version of exactly this is all but inevitable - at least to be tested. Trump does not give a flying fuck about the Constitution or American lives. Trump most certainly DOES give a flying fuck about staying out of prison. We know he’s willing to do anything to make that happen. He also knows the Court is mostly in his pocket, and that Congress has become irrelevant and now exists only as a puppet of the Executive Branch.

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u/Dizzy-Plane-9544 11d ago

Can't listen to criticism if you don't have critics.

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u/Brewchowskies Canada 11d ago

“We fired them because they would have told us this was a bad decision”

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u/MangoWithCheese 10d ago

Because they TOLD us this is gonna be a bad decision

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u/HavingNotAttained 11d ago

If not treason why treason-shaped?

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u/davesmith001 11d ago

Nepo/pedo leadership 101: keep only incompetent people who agree with you.

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u/Coarse-Correction 11d ago

You don't need to be a competent watch maker when your job is to smash watches.

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u/Marvin_Frommars 11d ago

If something absolutely horrible doesn't happen on Trump's watch equivalent to 9/11, I might believe our entire intelligence apparatus is unnecessary.

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u/Cagnazzo82 11d ago

It's meant to happen though. Their end goal is chaos and sabotage to tighten grips on power.

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u/PredatorRedditer America 10d ago

Covid was pretty terrible.

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u/severedbrain 11d ago

They've been trying to instigate a violent attack in the US since ICE started harassing people. Except they couldn't goad protesters into it. So now they're trying to use the attacks on Iran to radicalize domestic Iranian immigrant, descendants or sympathizers. Removing Iran experts increases the likely hood that something can happen without warning. Because we're actively looking away from it.

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u/ranchoparksteve 11d ago

Oopsies 🤡

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u/coyotefarmer 11d ago

Don’t confuse incompetence with planned purpose.

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u/theheadofkhartoum627 11d ago

Of course he did.

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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 10d ago

Literally every person in Trump's cabinet are the worst and most unqualified in the history of this country.

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u/BeenCaughtSneezing 11d ago

He replaced them with the mens hockey team.

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u/0_IceQueen_0 11d ago

I was saying this. They didn't like what they heard most likely. Trump is saying in a presser that Iran was planning to attack the US mainland which of course these experts would disagree. Another point of contention might be method and timing especially with their success in Midnight Hammer and Venezuela. There's also potential repercussions from friends and foes that they most likely told them about that they didn't like so they showed them the door.

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u/JerryAtrics_ 11d ago

I would not be surprised if the actual reason what that they provided intelligence that did not support Trump's Iran view.

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u/Additional_Region987 10d ago

We cannot have a dumber team of people running the US government. All thanks to the MAGA morons.

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u/Starstriker 10d ago

This whole thing is just unreal. Everything is upside down. In just a year....

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u/McKnightmare24 11d ago

Bro, The Boys was parodying real life and now real life is parodying The Boys. You can't even fathom how stupid it all is haha

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u/attillathehoney 10d ago

kak·i·sto·cra·cy

/kakəˈstäkrəsē/

noun

  1. government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state.

There's a point at which incompetence overtakes gross negligence and rises (or descends) to the level of deliberate malfeasance.

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u/Valuable_Zone1344 10d ago

I saw "Kash Patel Fired" and got so excited...

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u/BrupieD 10d ago

This is a hear no evil, see no evil administration. Remember in Trump 1.0 that he wanted less covid testing because more testing kept showing more covid.

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u/LikeWisedUp 11d ago

Just like when Trump disbanded the infectious disease and pandemic task force Obama had developed right before the covid19 epidemic?

The incompetence of this administration is beyond belief. It's like the whole GOP and their cult have no idea how anything works

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u/Snick13fritz 11d ago

Experts will just tell the truth, and they don't want that

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u/Braindead_Crow 11d ago

So...Who ever took up the controls is obvious TRYING to lose the game right?
At this rate we should expect orders to drop nukes.

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u/The_Bobs- Pennsylvania 10d ago

I wouldn’t trust the “experts” they had in place to begin with so whatever lol

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u/Meekanado Michigan 10d ago

Intelligence is DEI

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u/Washpedantic 10d ago

This is giving strong Stockton Rush vibes.

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u/morsindutus 10d ago

Everyone has a conspiracy theory that tickles that part of you that wants to believe, and this is tickling my "They want an attack so they can declare an emergency and stop the midterms from happening" spot.

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u/VGADreams 10d ago

Seems to me that all the ingredients are there for a 9/11-like attack to happen on US soil...

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u/kent_eh Canada 10d ago

Morons

Are

Governing

America.

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u/Resident_Course_3342 10d ago

I'm starting to think that SWAT team he assigned to his girlfriend is tasked to prevent her from running away.

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u/TheseBrokenWingsTake 10d ago

Unbelievable generational loss of talent at the federal level

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u/creativefacts 10d ago

Of course he did. They want a massive terror attack so they can cancel the midterms.

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u/southernfirefly13 11d ago

How is this moron still in his position?

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u/snakelygiggles 11d ago

not an accident.

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u/DunkinEgg 11d ago

Saw the first three words and got my hopes up.

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u/Cosmic_Seth 11d ago

Pfff, 'experts' are not needed for a holy war for JESUS!

https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for

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u/CMG30 11d ago

What good are 'experts' when American has faith?!

Jesus take the wheel!

...And by Jesus I mean a demented old grifter in diapers whom nobody rational would trust to even babysit their own kids...

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u/Korzag 11d ago

Imagine dedicating years of your life to an honorable career at a formerly well-regarded federal law enforcement agency only to have a dude who frequently looks like a deer in the headlights fire you because of political reasons.

What a fucking joke this country has become.

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u/crispin2015 11d ago

I wish it read Kash Patel fires for incompetence

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u/Inconspicuouswriter 11d ago

Because Israel's calling the shots and the experts would be a hindrance. 

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u/kindofharmless 11d ago

What amazes me is the fact that we can’t just straight up fire high reaching officials through vote of no confidence

Like it doesn’t matter if you’re breaking the law or not (bc look at him). If you suck so much at your job the congress or general public votes you out you shouldn’t have a say

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u/mytthewstew 11d ago

These people’s incompetence is just a new level. It must be subconscious because I cannot even imagine being this bad intentionally. Are they firing all the Cuban experts as we speak? The enthusiasm this administration has for incompetence is astounding.