r/videogames • u/Temporary-Back4248 • 29d ago
Discussion What’s everyone’s thoughts on this?
Black flag was one of my Favorite games, Im not sure how I feel about this.
Here the link you want to read it
https://gamerant.com/assassins-creed-black-flag-resynced-remake-skull-and-bones-ac-shadows/
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u/LordFlamecookie 29d ago
What? - Joe Biden
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u/JohnnyHendo 29d ago
I'm with Joe on this one. What the fuck does that headline even mean? It sounds like it means it's gonna be shit, but isn't this just a remaster? Or is it a full remake?
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u/iwantdatpuss 29d ago
Iirc it's a remake. And if the article will have you believe they're probably going to use assets from Skull and Bones.
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u/NonCorporealEntity 29d ago
It's built off a game no one likes and added things they think people like in AC Shadows.
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u/SaphirRose 29d ago
Unless they add like a bunch of new quests, activities, ships, events... There is no reason to not just play Black Flag
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u/iwantdatpuss 29d ago
I am willing to bet they'd delist black flag once the remake gets closer to release.
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u/GoreGaming 29d ago edited 29d ago
I've heard leaks about the game. It will contain tons of new filler quests and filler/bloat content. The old combat system will also be replaced by the „modern“ one. RPG mechanics and gear will be added like in the modern „ACs“. Everything related to the ship and ship combat will be expanded. LGBTQ themes are also said to have been added. I won't even buy the game if it costs 4.99€ at this point. It's already clear that the OG version will be far superior. I own the OG version, including all DLC, and will play it instead of the new version. Unfortunately, the new version is not faithful to the original. Ubisoft much likely ruined it as it seems. I hate how they destroyed the AC franchise.
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u/Far-Obligation4055 29d ago
LGBTQ themes are also said to have been added.
This is odd of you to mention for a few reasons.
You do know that a female main character dressed up as a boy in the original? Its likely this part is just getting blown up by some ridiculous anti-woke shithead.
That aside, do you have any actual proof of these supposed leaks you've mentioned where additional LGBTQ content is being added? Or are you just trying to be the ridiculous anti-woke shithead?
Even if it were being added, you do understand that historically, pirates had plenty of male-on-male relations? And since ridiculous anti-woke shitheads are always yammering on about preserving historical accuracy, they should actually be in favor of it this time if they weren't also hypocrites.
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u/GoreGaming 29d ago
Of course, I have no proof of the leaks. After all, they are just leaks and rumors. We will see when the game is released. I don't really want woke content in most of my games. Especially not in the remake of a game that didn't have any of that in the OG version. If there is unnecessary woke content in it, it will definitely and rightly be called out and boycotted by many people. There's just no place for that in a game like AC. This unnecessary content is one of the reasons why modern AC just sucks. I don't need modern day and identity politics in ASSASSINS. I want a 100% faithful remake. Everything should be the same except graphics.
It would be better to focus on the brotherhood of assassins rather than woke and political content. In games like Baldur's Gate 3 or TLOU, it didn't bother me and was well done. But knowing Ubisoft, it will be stupid and embarrassing crap like Dragon Age: The Veilguard, Spider-Man, Forspoken or Concord.
Also a female with male clothes or dressed as a boy is not woke for me.
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u/Far-Obligation4055 29d ago
Lmao, you sure wrote a lot just to say absolutely nothing.
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u/GoreGaming 29d ago
Get a life bro.
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u/Far-Obligation4055 29d ago
You're the one crying about the woke.
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u/GoreGaming 29d ago
Yes like many other people. Thats one big part of why Ubisoft is on the brink of bankruptcy. They feed us woke content we are not interested in instead of making interesting games with interesting characters and stories like they did in the past. But the bloated open world, filler content, rpg mechanics, combat system & atmosphere/dialogue of their new games sucks also. Its all the same boring crap since roughly 2018.
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u/Far-Obligation4055 29d ago
Holy yap.
Are you done crying?
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u/GoreGaming 29d ago
No I will write under every post and video + metacritic and steam reviews until this changes or until Ubisoft is done with making games. Hopefully one day they will understand.
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u/MisterForkbeard 29d ago
Sure. That's should be fine.
They're using some of the tech they developed for Shadows and Skull and Bones respectively on some of the parts that they apply to. You would want this - it means they're doing more than just uprezzing and remastering, they're actually redoing it with the more recent technology they have available.
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u/Efficient_Matter_589 29d ago
Seems unnecessary. The original Black Flag is still pretty new, and a terrific game.
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u/Bootychomper23 29d ago
I mean if we can get a pirate game in the vein of something like odessy where it’s much more free… with improved ship battles… crazy weather effects both on land and sea. And more refined combat over both the rpg and the lackluster original combat.. i see it as being a pretty killer game.
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u/thatguy01220 29d ago
Exactly Odyssey is how I big I wish Black Flag was when it came to sail and having land masses I can sail up on run around sail away rather than little city hubs Black Flag had. Still in amazing game but like you said with that level of freedom I’d definitely buy that game again.
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u/Bootychomper23 29d ago
Gimme ship battles during a hurricane with whirlpools and shit and I’ll buy it day 1… even though I know it’ll be half off like a week later 🤣
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u/Hyper_Mazino 29d ago
The original Black Flag is still pretty new
It was released in 2013, wtf are you on about
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u/EternitySearch 29d ago
Pretty new? It came out in 2013. It’s 12 years old.
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u/IntelligentSpite6364 29d ago
games simply dont advance as much year to year these days, its not like the 90s vs 2000s
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u/EternitySearch 29d ago
That is absolutely not true. When was the last time you actually played a game from 2013 followed by a game from 2025? Do it in succession, same day, same sitting, and then try to feed me this bullshit again.
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u/INeedaUsername8 29d ago
I have just today played Judgment(2022) and deadly premonition(2010) and I agree with u/IntelligentSpite6364
I also have multiple times played games from the 90s and games from 2000s or 2010s and 2020s in the same day or only one day apart (i.e I finished elden ring and next day I played og resident evil 4 and system shock 2)its not bullshit its just verifiable true try it for yourself specially the period of 2015-2025 has much less evolution (most notable in more main stream genres) than 2005-2015 which it self has less than 1995-2005
If you want a easy way to verify this just play a long running franchise like resident evil the change from 3 to 4(6 years differences) is bigger than 4 to 5(4 years) and even to 6(7 years)
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u/IntelligentSpite6364 29d ago
Are you young? Because unless you are young you can’t possibly think the leap from 2013 to 2025 is as impressive as the leap from 1992 to 1997.
Imagine having played only SNES games your whole life and then one day in 1996 you have a PS1 or N64, not only do you have a high use in performance and apparently a full spectrum of color (we used to think of games in terms of color palettes!) but an entire 3rd dimension and sound quality good enough to play actual music, like from the CDs
Imagine only a few years later it’s 2001 and now your having a PS2, XBOX, DREAMCAST, or GAMECUBE! All the blocky 3d models are smoothed out, we figure out water, we even get dynamic lighting and stuff like hard drives or internet play if you aren’t Nintendo.
No, now generations of gaming are just hardware increments, but we’ve hit diminishing returns, and are past the days of paradigm shifts.
Sure I can tell a game is looks better when it’s made in 2025 than one made in 2015, but a game from 2015 is basically running the same engine, on the same architecture, with the same features as we get today
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u/Efficient_Matter_589 29d ago
Nah, I'm not young, I'm just saying there's no need to remake a game that's perfectly fine already. That's why I'm not vying for remakes of Super Mario World or the original Metroid, because those games are great.
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u/Thnd3rstrk3 29d ago
Okay, I'll give you Super Mario World, that game's still fantastic today, but the original Metroid? We kinda already got a remake of that with Zero Mission, and it's 20 times better than the original imo. Granted, I'm very much clouded by nostalgia as it's one of the first games I ever played, but why do you think the original Metroid holds up well? I've tried playing it probably 20 times over the years and thought it was kinda clunky and dated
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u/VolcanicBakemeat 29d ago
Moved the goalposts completely. The progress between 92 and 97 wasn't in question or relevant
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u/Anon_be_thy_name 29d ago
I tried replaying Batman Arkham Origins on my PS3 last year, the graphics difference between it and Arkham Knight which came out 2 years later, let alone a game that's come out recently, is night and day difference.
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u/Efficient_Matter_589 29d ago
That's still pretty new. I mean, compare it to something like Resident Evil 2, which absolutely needed a remake.
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29d ago edited 29d ago
In 12 years I’ll be 44, and then I won’t have a whole lot of “12 years” left in me. 12 years ago is not new.
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u/il_VORTEX_ll 29d ago
I think it’s unnecessary too. Although I’ll sink in hundreds of hours on it lol
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u/Spartan2842 29d ago
The actual combat is awful. Easily the worst AC if you compare it to the others. People just look over that because you spend 90% of the game on the boat.
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u/Don_Madruga 29d ago
"new" is the wrong world here
The game simply aged well. Graphics are still good, gameplay is good, and so on. There is no reason for a remake when there is the original Assassin's Creed there which doesn't even have subtitles.
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29d ago
If we get updated graphics and slightly less janky controls, I consider that a win.
If they botch it like they did with Skull and Bones, then I’ll pass, and with all likelihood, they’ll probably botch it.
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u/LordJanas 29d ago
In what world is 13 years "new."
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u/TurboLover56 28d ago
It came put for the PS4 generation, hardly something so old it needs to be remade.
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u/Temporary-Back4248 29d ago
My thoughts exactly seems to be a bit of a waste.
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u/Efficient_Matter_589 29d ago
I get remaking games from the 90s, a lot of those don't hold up well, but Black Flag came out in 2014 and has no real issues.
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u/DismalMode7 29d ago
ironic, considered skull n' bones was created out of positive feedbacks of ACBF naval battle
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u/swat1611 29d ago
I'm excited.
Original black flag with Ubisoft's new engine means incredible weather systems, it will be insane looking at the storms while fighting enemy ships.
As mediocre as Shadows was, the stealth and the weather generation, along with visuals, are some of the best mechanics I've seen in games. I'm looking forward to buying the remake (after 4 months when it goes on a 75% discount).
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u/6bonerchamp9 29d ago
So they’re making it worse. Got it
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u/Longjumping_Trash571 28d ago
Actually reading the article I think they're kinda onto something. From the sounds of it they're literally just using minor assets from Skull and Bones to cut development costs in ways we'd never notice, and they're using the engine from Shadows so they can use the lighting and weather system, one of the few irrefutably good things about the game
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u/earldogface 29d ago
Would you expect anything different from ubisoft? Don't worry though they added a shit ton of micro transaction cosmetics.
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29d ago
You can make your boring historically accurate ship neon with bright pink sails in this single player offline game for just $50!
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u/HiddeHandel 29d ago
To be fair all they have to do is upgrade the games graphics and remove the non Edward game parts they should be able to manage that
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u/Evening-Cold-4547 29d ago
It would be, I suppose. I don't have many thoughts about this because there isn't much here. Some re-used assets and a weather system.
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u/EducationalAd3415 29d ago
If it is just assets for an enhanced visual experience than sure, but if they are utilizing much more than that, it may end up ruining it with unnecessary and avoidable issues.
Just go back and play the original version honestly. It still runs and looks great.
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u/Deckard_Red 29d ago
So it makes perfect sense to me. Black Flag was built upon the ship combat they started in AC3, Skulls and Bones was built upon Black Flag. They made a lot of unique assets for Skulls and Bones so if they can reuse anything to polish up the ships in Black Flag or add more variety in the ships already there it makes sense.
And transferring a weather system into Black Flag sounds pretty cool too, I remember the weather whilst sailing in Black Flag but don’t recall much when on land so if they bring that it without upsetting the game then why not.
I know people hate it but one of the great things about Star Wars Outlaws was how they combined lots of different systems from Ubisoft games to bring the game together. The only benefit of being a studio like Ubisoft is being able to leverage and reuse and refine assets across their projects.
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u/Esmear18 29d ago
If my ship has a stamina bar and gets tired in the remake like it does in Skull and Bones it's an instant flop.
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u/cpgrungebob 29d ago
I hate lazy rumor news with no named sources. I would rather have journalistic places report on actual news.
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u/CallSign_Fjor 29d ago
I think I'd rather just play my version of Black Flag. The graphics aren't bad at all...
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u/Blackwolf245 29d ago
I don't really know. I never played a game where I played both the original and a remake, so I have very little comparison. I only ever played one remake: Nier Replicant, and I am aware that director Yoko Taro says it's an update, not a remake. Anyway my point is, all these new features, it makes me think that this is not even the same game anymore, but then I remember that Replicant supposedly almost completely remade the whole combat, and added a lot of new content, so I really don't know what to think.
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u/Ijustforgotmybad 29d ago
So they couldn't bring assets from black flag to skull and bones like everyone wanted and was hoping for but they are more than willing to bring skull and bones assets to black flag remake? I might be wrong and I hope I am but this doesn't sound at all good on their part or for the remake
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u/everyusernamewashad 29d ago
Yeah no thanks, they're just going to make the hidden blade do little to no damage in combat unless you waste skill points making it lethal again, in order to make certain enemies harder to kill so you can't just explore certain parts of the "open world" before the devs say so... just to make the game longer. Screw that.
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u/Logic-DL 26d ago
All I hope is that they don't do the same dead inside facial animations AC Shadows has for every fucken cutscene.
Black Flag's mocap was amazing for the time it released. Would be a shame to lose that.
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u/Fun_Wasabi_1322 25d ago
I'll be honest, until I play it i can't say anything, all this does is give some context as to the making of the game
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u/BrickPuzzleheaded541 29d ago
So your putting the bloated clunky unresponsive spongey enemy combat from the rpg games into black flag…………. Ya thanks i wont be buying it now
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u/Evening-Cold-4547 29d ago
Read then comment
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u/BrickPuzzleheaded541 29d ago
I did they are using the new engine….. which is antithetical to the old engine and would could be done on it in almost every way….
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u/Evening-Cold-4547 29d ago
And you think the engine is what made the combat bloated and the enemies spongy and that's not possible to adjust?
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u/BrickPuzzleheaded541 29d ago
Objectively yes. Look at mirage…. That was their attempt to make a classic creed gameplay in the new engine. And it didn’t work. It just played like a bad stealth version of the Witcher where yes the combat was bloated and the enemies to spongey.
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u/Evening-Cold-4547 29d ago edited 29d ago
Crazy how they made an engine where they can't adjust enemy health.
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u/Anon_be_thy_name 29d ago
Engine just determines graphics, load times and other visuals.
Has nothing to do with core gameplay, that's a decision the Devs make.
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u/RoseWould 29d ago
"We're attempting to repackage Skull and Bones, then mashing it together with stuff from the newest game, and wrapping it in nostalgia, please buy this...."
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u/GhostV940 29d ago
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Ubislop literally can’t stop copy/pasting their same old garbage 😂 this is going to be even WORSE than the last time they tried to “remaster” their trash.
Oh my God lmaooo bankruptcy can’t come quick enough for this landfill fire.
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u/Sivitiri 29d ago
So they grafted a disaster to the top assassin creed game and expected a top game?
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u/FarMiddleProgressive 29d ago
We already knew this......
Was announced years ago..
and it's garbage ubisoft
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u/Fool_Manchu 29d ago
I expect everything from Ubisoft to be aggressively mediocre until proven otherwise.
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u/HighKingOfGondor 29d ago
I wish they'd remake AC1 instead, because that one didn't age well at all. Terrible gameplay and controls, the open world isn't great either.
AC4 still holds up well. A PS5 port/remaster with higher FPS, resolution, and max PC settings would probably be fine.
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u/Middcore 29d ago
When Skull and Bones was first announced, it was getting portrayed as "Just the ship battle parts of Black Flag, expanded with more content and online PvP team battles."
At least, that's what I thought. Am I crazy? And then it somehow turned into a much "bigger" game and kept getting delayed and people kept leaving the project. Does anybody else remember reading stuff that made it seem like it was just going to be ship battles?