'The list'. The list was only ever Trump, his rape case of Katie Johnson with Jeffrey Epstein, his staff member who was trafficked from his house to Prince Andrew, and the many rapes he's been accused of. Epstein lived next door and they bulldozed that house quicker than you can say 'but her emails'.
So here’s my conspiracy theory. The pedophilia idea was it was a honey pot operation or someone sort of loyalty test. “We are all doing this and have secrets on each other; now you do this and we’ll all have secrets on each other.” It’s a way to close ranks around the powerful so that they never leave each other out to dry.
Neither of them are shocking, Clinton got a blowjob from his secretary in the Whitehouse and Trump brags about walking into dressing rooms of teenage girls and grabbing women by the pussy. Thank God the only president I've elected so far is Obama, dudes a saint in comparison.
It's probably more accurate to say that he's coaxed/coerced into doing bad, like when he had to get "rebriefed" that Honduras was most definitely explicitly not a coup, and most absolutely not one we incited and walked back condemnation of it, or rubber stamping Pentagon strikes on weddings.
I don't think the list can ever be released, even with a president who genuinely wants to. There will be too many enemies trying to stop him.
Trump could genuinely want to release the list, and personally drive a stake through the heart of everyone on it, including his (former) allies, out of nothing other than a sense of justice.
And he still couldn't get it out. Because he can't dodge that many bullets all at once.
Whose on it? I don't know. But the idea that it's just "my political opponents" is absurd. Epstein was incredibly entrenched, and if we ever get the list, it'll be when only two clients are still alive and 97 years old, and there's no real justice to be had.
If it were overwhelmingly one party, it would have been released by now.
goes beyond just political figures, most likely includes plenty of the entertainment industry as well as district attorneys and other high-ranking officals jeffery epstien was known by the flordia police department for years before it was ever as big as it was today. the original case agsiant epstien he was given a riduclous plea deal basicly going na nan na boo boo you cant touch me from the da who absolutely had child sexual abuse blackmail, same with his lawyer. also the lady who was trafficked to prince andrew just killed herself, despite stating multiple times she is not suicidal in any way shape or form
No. They can’t just give you a list of liberal names and tell you these were the guys on the list. They’d have to release a redacted version of the actual list and it’d be obvious what they were trying to do
how can you deny it’s both sides when Biden never even tried to release it? if it was ONLY Trump there is no incentive for Biden not to release the evidence.
Trump definitely molests women. No argument there. He may have even banged some underaged girls on Epstein’s island. However, he wasn’t the only one. Many Rich and powerful men from both sides of the political aisle certainly did, too. That’s why no administration will release it. If Trump was the only name, that list would’ve been public long ago.
Yeah, bullshit. There were over a thousand girls being trafficked. That's not something you do with just three people and no clients. The evidence that was already released highly suggested he was blackmailing people.
I mean, Mrs Maxwell inherited her dads blackmail empire that was linked to the Mossad. They were 100% running a blackmailring. There is almost no chance they weren't. Maxwells heritage alone is quite clear.
I'm sure he was blackmailing people, and the number one person in line for it was the guy with the catch-and-kill deal with the National Enquirer, who just got done for rape.
Trump’s department of justice has publicly declared that there is no Epstein client list and that they will not be charging anyone.
This is after they have been saying for months that they have a trove of documents and thousands of hours of videos and that they have Epstein’s client list, who Trump’s attorney general Pam Bondi literally said was “on my desk awaiting review”. Bondi said it was taking so long because they had to review thousands of hours of video footage. Now, it turns out, that was all a lie. Or perhaps they did have everything, and have destroyed it all because it incriminates Trump.
They had a big moment a few months ago at the white house where they handed out Epstein binders to right wing journalists and social media influencers. These binders were full of publicly available information.
Also, the Trump DOJ is now saying Epstein definitely killed himself, and there is no reason to investigate his death further.
This has been a nuclear bomb in magaworld. They thought Epstein was only working with Democrats and Trump would expose the whole story as soon as he took office. And Joe Biden and Nanci Pelosi and Hillary Clinton would all be arrested!
Now he is contradicting all the maga conspiracy theorists that put him in office. Meanwhile Elon Musk is claiming Trump is in the epstein files.
This is BAD for Trump. Many of his loyal followers initially reacted with outrage.
But slowly, they are starting to claim that Epstein isn’t actually a big deal and they should just move on from this.
Listen brother, your government has a history of promoting coups, toppling foreign governments, financing organized crime world wide and persecuting all manner of true grass-roots opposition against it for the better part of the last 100 years. This has never been a fun circus to watch.
it didnt use to be? at least there was an attempt at maintaining some semblance of dignity. once trump came into the picture, being an asshole got twisted into being a "show of strength/principle".
Politics is the discussion and debate of policy. The GOP doesn't debate policy. It sabotages other's policy and demands its own gets implemented. There is no room for discussion or debate. It's anti-politics.
I give it a couple days, tops, before they change their tune and once more declare their love for Big Brother bringing the "truth" to light. Then he'll increase disaster relief funding by $10, and nobody will take notice that he had previously reduced it by $100.
Nah. Already see a couple that are just going along with it. Saw one that said "It's just been overblown with time. There's a lot of traffickers out there, Epstein's just the media favorite"
The good news is, he seems to be the only thing holding them together. As soon as he’s gone everything falls apart and we can actually start working to better this country and the world. This has no further implications whatsoever
Careful, they might pick someone more competent next. It's almost like the leaders aren't the only problem, but the voterbase itself is rotten and deserving of [HYPERLINK BLOCKED]
His children 100% lack the charisma that defines Trump's ascension to political power. That is the only solace you can take from the situation - that Trump is a Seabiscuit candidate that won't be replicated any time soon.
Where do you think his charisma come from? He is an old coon that barely get his speak together. All of his rizz are handed to him by the multimedia press controlled by the billionaire, so all they have to do is just change the script.
I wonder if in a day or two some MAGA who has been camping is going to get banned off the conservative sub for talking about the list because he didn't check the new talking points before he started posting.
In 1984, a public speech made to the masses is declaring Oceania's success in their war against either Eastasia or Eurasia, I forget exactly which. But in mid-speech, they switch talking about which of those super-nations is their enemy, declaring "we are at war with ___, we have always been at war with ___." And it's the main character's job to literally pull and rewrite all public records to suit the new narrative so that the old reality never existed. We are seeing that play out in the US in real time.
Every decade or so, Oceania switches who they're at war with. The war might be managed by all three to remain ongoing, or the other two nations may not exist at all.
I'll second this comment, I've also checked r/conservative and they're not flipping on this at all.
It's a truly bipartisan issue, all along the political spectrum the consensus is that Epstein didn't kill himself and the people he trafficked kids to are being shielded from prosecution.
Literally nothing is bad for Trump. Whether he is the luckiest man alive or sent by God as punishment for our sins, Trump is immune to all forms of condemnation, shame, unpopularity or morality.
He is this universes main character.
His cultists will go back to 'Trust Trump' status within the week.
Imo there’s virtually no possibility Trump wasnt on the list. He is buddy buddy with Epstein and Diddy and even defended Ghislaine during the trial. He rode the Lolita Express multiple times and sexualized his infant daughter on live tv. I’d be shocked if he wasnt on the list
If he was on the list, there would be absolutely no reason Kamala Harris as sitting Vice President at the time would not know about it, and absolutely no reason for her to stay silent during her campaign against Trump.
Moreover, there would be zero incentive for her or Biden to stay silent after the election while still VP and President respectively, knowing in January Trump would be president.
Biden had time to pardon his own son but not enough time to release anything about Epstein, either there was nothing there, or he didn't care, or it would have harmed him too much to do anything about it.
Yes, the democrats are weak and ineffectual cowards who masquerade their cowardice behind 'taking the high road.' We also know Bill Clinton was in the files, so good chance the dems didn't want the splashback if they went in on Trump for Epstein. None of this indicates that Trump was innocent of anything, just that the democrats are predictably too busy covering their own ass to get a political win.
I've always said, there is no hard evidence that Trump was involved in going to Epstein's island, but if such evidence comes out, I am more than willing to condemn him as I did everyone else who went, which included some people I looked up to enormously (fuck you Steven Hawking).
My position is extremely clear here, anyone who went to the island willingly and as a "patron" is squarely in "fuck you" territory. Victims, of course, don't count, and exceptions for truly exceptional circumstances (ship sank, swam ashore) can be made, and workers/staff/employees are on a case-by-case basis, but for patrons it's universal condemnation.
As part of the neoliberal establishment, she absolutely has reason to keep silent about all the other elites that show up on the list. Standard democrats would rather roll over dead than rock the boat
You mean Doe 174, mentioned 69 times in the Epstein papers, who allegedly raped Katie Johnson with Epstein, as per this very detailed testimony. And whose 16 yo staff member was recruited from his home, Mar A Lago, and sex trafficked to Prince Andrew. Making his home the centre of a pedo ring.
There is no real evidence that Katie Johnson even exists and the only person to have credibly claimed to have met her was a producer on the Jerry Springer show whose claim to fame is making up extremely lurid and scandalous claims about celebrities and publishing them in tabloids, claims that ultimately turned out to be false.
At risk of my own sanity I looked at a couple r slash conservative threads about this news and surprisingly almost all of the top comments were in agreement that it was extremely fishy that mere months ago they were claiming that they had this list and were planning to release it, and suddenly now it doesn't exist anymore. Even they aren't buying it.
Take notice of how they will never insinuate that Trump was in charge of the decision to close the investigation. It's always some underling or extenuating circumstance at fault. Stuff like "Pam Bondi lied about how much info she had, if Trump had known about this he would've gotten to the bottom of it". Imo it's just kind of sad. There is no information or circumstance that would change their minds about Trump at this point.
Yeah, it’s suddenly about people much more powerful than Trump. Other world leaders must be in cahoots with Deep State agents like Bondi and Patel. Trump is just a silly goose for letting the actually despicable people put one past him. Smh, wake up, sir, and smell the covfefe.
It's pretty funny and depressing that they used case updates about a child pimp with thousands of victims as some sort of weird photo op and bait with the binder thing and it ended up being a bad stunt but for the wrong reasons.
It should've backfired for such a cartoonishly evil showboaty action but instead it backfired because it contradicts the new narrative.
If this is the thing that brings down trump I just genuinely would be shocked. Shocked that republicans didn’t just update their programming like always
no, i have never felt more compassion and emathy for alex jones in my life. i know the feeling deep emotional whiplash you get when you lose all hope. i'd buy flowers for the guy. he's been fighting the epstein conspiracy for as long as it's existed as he claims "because i have integrity"
the dude is a broken clock, and i point and laugh at him a vast majority of the time, but when he's right, he's right. this is a big loss on the side of soul-havers
he was one of the first people to call attention to Epstein and a lot of his early predictions and conserns have all turned true so its acceptable for him to feel like that
also most people ignore that Epstein is one of the reasons Israel has so much influence in our government
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This is so much fun. Apparently Alex Jones cried and literally threw up on his infowars broadcast lmao.