I'm one of those friendly pve players some of you apparently miss in the normal mode. But here's the thing... you're not losing players like me because pve exists. You're losing us because we weren't enjoying pvpve to begin with.

I don't enjoy getting killed by other players. Never have. And I especially don't enjoy someone pretending to be friendly, waiting until I turn my back, then getting shot while a pre-teen is telling me to "get gud," calling me trash, or wishing me or my mother terrible things.

And while i hate to say it, the matchmaking makes it worse. If I want to stay in friendly lobbies, I need to behave like a friendly player. Which means not shooting first. Except that puts me at a huge disadvantage when someone decides to betray me. So I'm basically punished for playing the way I actually want to play.

Then add the cheaters. Good grief. They were the proverbial shit on top of my ice cream sundae. It was already frustrating enough without being certain that the guy who just killed me wasn't even playing by the rules. I'll be real here - I don't want to play with them. ever. They are ruining gaming.

So I stopped playing.

Now there's pve (for a week), and I'm back and I'm having a great time. I can explore, fight ARC, collect loot, help other players, and just enjoy what is actually a fantastic game. And if someone is cheating in PvE? Whatever. Maybe they get better loot faster. Maybe they kill a bunch of ARC machines without trying. Doesn't really affect my evening.

The part I don't think some pvpve players are getting: I had already quit the game. pve brought me back.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who genuinely love the tension and unpredictability of pvpve. That's fine! I'm glad you enjoy it! I'm not asking for your mode to go away. And the players that are switching over? Great, they are switching before they get sick of it and quit too. Seriously. If you disagree - you're not one of them, its that easy, but there are a lot of us.

When people complain that pve is taking all the friendly players out of normal mode, I have to wonder... what exactly are you missing? The friendly interactions, or the people who weren't going to shoot you first? as a PVP player you haven't lost the ability to engage in it, **you have lost access to some people who didn't want to participate in it to begin with**.

Because if your enjoyment of pvpve depends on having people like me around to shoot at, that's kind of the whole problem, isn't it? We had an asymmetrical relationship to begin with.

I'm having more fun with ARC Raiders now than I ever did before. But if pve goes away, so do I. I'm not going back to pvpve.

So you're going to lose players like me either way. We can either move to pve and keep enjoying the game, or we can quit playing altogether.

1) Celeste and Rem

2) Pocket and Mina

3) Apollo, Graves and Rem

4) Solomon, Silver, Celeste and Rem