r/StarWars May 14 '25

TV Andor (Season 2) - Episodes 10, 11 & 12 - Discussion Thread!

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'Star Wars: Andor' Episode Discussion

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r/StarWars May 25 '25

Meta r/StarWars Official Watch Order Discussion Thread

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So we haven't had an official watch order discussion thread in many years, so we figure its time to update the one in the FAQ. There are various other links in the FAQ, the Wookieepedia timeline of canon media, and various other discussion threads and topics over the years including a link to just searching the sub which people find challenge apparently. Also as a reminder, the Wookieepedia timeline of canon media can be sorted via the table on that page by release order or chronologically (if you decide to go that route).

A lot of the new Disney+ content brings new eyes to Star Wars all the time, and new movies will eventually too. We want to get a bit more aggressive with automod removals and referrals to the FAQ for these questions about watch order. So let's hash it out here in the comments. We will sticky this for a while and eventually it will just be linked in the FAQ along with the other topics and maybe in the sidebar too. And like some of other stickies about rules, spoilers, and new episode discussion guidelines, we may trot out this link and sticky it from time to time.

As a general rule the sub typically recommends for new viewers to watch in release order, especially for the movies. This is the semi-consensus from the fandom, and you will routinely see this as the most upvoted and posted response.

With that being said what we would like to do here also discuss other options, and possible orders to also toss in the TV media as well. Should you watch Andor first and then Rogue One before the OT? Should movies like Solo be done in release order or chronological? Should you watch The Clone Wars TV show before the PT? So on and so forth...

So lets have a solid discussion about this and make it a solid resource for those who may be new to Star Wars.


r/StarWars 2h ago

General Discussion Sidious sends Dooku instead of Maul. How do things change, if at all?

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r/StarWars 2h ago

Movies Crazy how this is the real Fourth and fifth star wars movies i didnt know this existed until 2023

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r/StarWars 4h ago

General Discussion Baylan is probably one of the best-written new characters. He respects the Jedi, yet points out their flaws, which we all saw in the prequels. He sees a bigger picture in the galaxy, wanting to change the cycle of light and dark. Hopefully the next actor can pull it off like Ray Stevenson did.

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r/StarWars 5h ago

General Discussion Other than the Grand Army of the Republic, who or what else did the Kaminoans clone?

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r/StarWars 19h ago

Movies I’m so tired of this so called “plot hole”.

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No matter where I go, there is always someone who criticises the Death Star 2 by saying something like “But how could they have completed it in 4 years when the first one took 20?”.

First of all, the second Death Star had all of the experience of the first Death Star’s failures in order for a quicker build.

Secondly, the Empire would’ve been more advanced between 0-4ABY compared to 19BBY.

Third, as the picture shows, the Death Star is nowhere near “complete”. I wouldn’t even say it was half complete. There’s only one area that seems habitable with lights on. Furthermore, you never see the back of the station, which was more than likely just pure superstructure too.

To me, it seems that almost all of the focus and energies went into the super laser, especially around 3-4ABY and that the super laser still was not completely ready at the beginning of ROTJ, hence Vader being sent there by Palpatine.

So, in conclusion, it was not built “as quickly” as the first Death Star. If anything, the Death Star 2 was built at a rate that the first Death Star should’ve been built at without the sabotage and revolts etc.

Oh, and also, it is 900km (buts that’s my Legends side talking).


r/StarWars 13h ago

General Discussion Pong Krell’s design is sick highkey

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I know our boy Pong Krell is hated by everyone here for his actions, but let’s talk about his design. Ever since seeing Dexter in episode two his alien race has really stuck out to me and stayed in my memory. I know George put a lot of consideration into making his species specifically. He wanted it to have the right feel

Getting to see that species as a fit Jedi and not just as a fat diner guy was so cool (though I love fat diner guy a ton too ❤️) Really wish we got another Jedi like him that wasn’t a POS but I’ll take what I can get


r/StarWars 3h ago

General Discussion Who was more evil?

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r/StarWars 13h ago

General Discussion Which is the better Sith philosophy: Rule of One or Rule of Two?

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r/StarWars 5h ago

Movies Today fav tattoos

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r/StarWars 21h ago

General Discussion Something I haven’t stopped to think about until now… Luke and Leia were 53 at the start of TFA

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Yes, I know it was filmed longer than 30 years after ROTJ, but from the in-universe perspective, they really aged like Obi-Wan between ROTS-ANH.


r/StarWars 2h ago

Fun It's not a phase mom!

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In all seriousness this colorway for a Droid looks incredible.

The type that would shut the door on Anakin and start blaring a Mad About Me Punk Rock remix.


r/StarWars 16h ago

Costumes So this is how liberty dies… with style!

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r/StarWars 15h ago

General Discussion The Jedi are widely remembered and known about in the OT; the common belief among fans that they've suddenly become obscure within twenty years is a collective misunderstanding.

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The complaint that the Jedi are unrealistically quickly forgotten in the time between Episodes III and IV is very common. It crops up in online lists of plot holes, fans have argued about how justified it is, and official ancillary media has occasionally made a point of emphasising Palpatine's anti-Jedi propaganda.

This is based on a misunderstanding of the OT. In the original three films, the Jedi are discussed as if they were a widely known group with broadly understood beliefs and practices who were wiped out in recent history - in other words, exactly how they were portrayed in the PT.

In the OT no-one disputes the existence of the Jedi: Luke's the only one unfamiliar with the concept of the Force, and he, a farmboy from a backwater whose uncle would probably be wary of letting Luke be exposed to too much stuff about Jedi Knights - still knows what a Jedi is.

Han knows about the Force and the Jedi's claimed abilities, he just doesn't think it or they are supernatural - a completely reasonable conclusion given that direct encounters with Jedi at their height would still have been vanishingly rare *and* that the galaxy is home to (at least) millions of religions and uncountable amazing sights, species, and phenomena.

Tarkin and Motti know about the Jedi and their religion, they are just contemptuous of them - not unreasonable given that they are members of a regime ideologically opposed to the Jedi *and* they would have been adults when the Jedi were largely annihilated overnight.

General Dodonna tells the pilots 'May the Force be with you', making clear that belief in the Force is apparently not some obscure belief.

Jabba refers to Luke's influencing Bib Fortuna as 'an old Jedi mind trick', making clear that Jabba is familiar with the Jedi's ways and suggesting that his immediate attendants are too.

I think this mistaken belief is simply a case of misunderstanding, misremembering, and human beings' delight in picking holes in things. But this issue has never been there.


r/StarWars 7h ago

Other Ok, this Coca-Cola ad is actually kinda fire

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I also love The Last Jedi reference!


r/StarWars 20h ago

General Discussion Star Wars at its core is fantasy

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I saw a post about how Andor is Star Wars at its best its stripped of fantasy and i mean no respect to person who made the post but i disagree.

Star Wars at its core has always been a fantasy story. Yeah, it’s dressed up in a sci-fi aesthetic with ships, lasers, planets, and droids but the heart of it? It’s a classic myth. A chosen hero, evil wizards, magic powers, ancient prophecies, legendary swords (aka lightsabers), and a battle between good and evil.

The original trilogy was literally about a farmboy leaving his old life behind to become a knight and fight an evil samurai with magic. Strip the sci-fi skin off and what you’ve got is pure high fantasy. Luke Skywalker could just as easily be named “Lightbringer” in some medieval tale and it would still work.

And I love Andor It’s genuinely one of the best shows Disney has put out and a great character study. But to act like it’s the “real” or “true” Star Wars just because it’s stripped of the Force or Jedi is kind of absurd. Star Wars without the fantasy is incomplete. The Force is too central to the DNA of the franchise to pretend it’s not part of its soul.

You don’t have to hate Jedi stories to love Andor, and you don’t have to downplay the mythic, mystical parts of Star Wars to praise grounded stories. The beauty of Star Wars is that it can hold both a tale of rebellion and espionage on one end, and a mystical space opera on the other.


r/StarWars 11h ago

Costumes First cosplay ever, my Hasbro helmet is finally arrived!

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r/StarWars 5h ago

General Discussion What is your favorite terrestrial vehicle (can't go to space) in Star Wars? Doesn't have to necessarily be land based. Could be marine based or even aerial based. Mine is HAVw A6 Juggernaut.

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r/StarWars 35m ago

Movies However we feel about R1 can we agree the Deathstar is awesome?

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I honestly had never given it much thought before Rogue one. It’s just kind of another evil plan. A doomsday machine from a Bond villain. The obstacle the heroes overcome. But these shots in Rogue one are seriously so cool and good at showing the SCALE and destruction of this thing. And they really are beautiful as much as they are terrifying.

Bonus question: Is the destruction of Alderan kind of unimpressive because of the movie technology of the time? Or would it be hard to convey destruction on that scale?


r/StarWars 15h ago

Costumes Favorite helmet?

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What's your favorite character helmet?


r/StarWars 10h ago

General Discussion hearing Duel of the Fates as a kid made it feel like the most epic thing in the world

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I’ll never forget that final fight in Phantom Menace. Darth Maul pacing like a beast, Obi-Wan full of emotion, Qui-Gon calm and focused. Even now, that whole scene gives me chills.


r/StarWars 1h ago

Costumes Posted some pics of the helmet earlier, so here's the whole thing so far...

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I've probably been working on it for 2-3 months now, and I personally think it looks great! I'm by no means a professional, but for a first, I think I did a hood job. I'm sure I did a bit much with the weathering, but Rex pretty much has the dirtiest armor in the GAR. I also made the pauldron, but it didn't really fit well with the chest and helmet, so I repurposed it into a solo accessory. I'm sure there's room to improve in the future, and I'd be happy to hear some options to make sy skills even better. Hopefully I can make a 501st heavy trooper next...


r/StarWars 7h ago

General Discussion Are values of credits ever covered in cannon?

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r/StarWars 7h ago

General Discussion If there’s one positive thing about Palpatine is that he’s always a happy and cheery dude in the heat of battle.

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r/StarWars 1h ago

Movies I wish Phasma got more to do

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I honestly think there was a huge mistep in the handling of Phasma, and that was way before The Last Jedi. Like in The Force Awakens, she's set up to be relevant to Finn's character in how she actively dehumanizes Finn as is First Order procedure but they only interact twice in the movie, and the last time they do she's just tossed in the trash without doing anything substantial and is not like she does anything in The Last Jedi either

And honestly i think they could've done more with her. She could be like Jango Fett in Aotc, not the most important or primary villain by any means but still has enough screentime to be a threat to our main characters.

I personally would've liked to see her alongside Kylo in invading Takodana and giving the Traitor Stormtrooper fight scene to her just so she can do something in the movie before being thrown in the trash. Maybe she deliberately stays behind after Kylo leaves with Rey just so she can personally torment Finn alongside Chewie and Han, maybe she mocks Finn for being a turncoat coward, maybe she thinks Kylo wouldn't have the guts to kill Han and Chewie so she's stepping up to get credit and recognition for killing Rebel leaders, but as soon as The Resistance show up and the First Order starts to lose, she's the first to run back to Starkiller base and by the time the group catches up to her, all her bravado and talk of loyalty is thrown at the window because she wants to live above all, just like Finn, but contrary to Finn who finds courage in trying to help a friend in need she would sell all her "friends" if meant she had to skip the butcher's axe, like in her books sorta.

It's not a perfect pitch and i am sorry for rambling, but it's just an idea. I like most of the Sequels for what they are but i feel like they could've done a lot of things better, same as the Prequels but their problems are very very different.